| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money 10:34 - Oct 31 with 2518 views | KeithHaynes |
Wiki - The Chansiri family is estimated by Forbes to be worth $720m as of 5/7/19.
So, being a bit short of cash he has said this.
"If 20,000 people gave £100 then it's £2m and it'd be clear - so we can finish it.
That would cover everything, HMRC and the wages.
“That would need to be done before November 10 if they don't want to pass the 30 days, but that means that there can be no next time.
“It'd need to be before to make it safe - if it was on the fifth then there would be 10 days left…
“If we were to hit 30 days then we'll get a ban for three windows."
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| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 11:17 - Oct 31 with 2151 views | Fireboy2 |
Wow 😳 |  | | |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 13:41 - Oct 31 with 2034 views | onehunglow |
Owls in real trouble ,it seems
Certs to go straight back down |  |
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| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 14:31 - Oct 31 with 2007 views | vetchonian |
And people moan about our owners.
Lets hope though this doesn't give Jason et al ideas | |
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| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 15:37 - Oct 31 with 1959 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 14:31 - Oct 31 by vetchonian |
And people moan about our owners.
Lets hope though this doesn't give Jason et al ideas |
Swansea fans who dozily let £20m slip them by post 2016 have £1m in the bank doing nothing.
I think they are able if required to give it to Jason as a bridging loan. If they had any worldly skills at all they would charge 5% per year generating a return. £50,000.
Cheaper than McQuarrie bank or Mr Dell who would ask for 9% plus.
Chansiri is trolling the fans who call themselves the "real owners". Chansiri then says "real owners cough up" at which point the dissolve into the mist.
People say I am obsessed with the SCST. They had it all but none of the 1000 members were brave enough to demand a sale of the shares and taking responsibility in 2015 -2016.
SCST had good PR and played the fans like a snake charmer. Sadly they kicked the can down the road but were forced to face up by law to the truth after 6 years. The old Trust still pedal their nonsense and deflect blame to the current incumbents. |  |
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| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 15:54 - Oct 31 with 1945 views | Whiterockin |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 15:37 - Oct 31 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Swansea fans who dozily let £20m slip them by post 2016 have £1m in the bank doing nothing.
I think they are able if required to give it to Jason as a bridging loan. If they had any worldly skills at all they would charge 5% per year generating a return. £50,000.
Cheaper than McQuarrie bank or Mr Dell who would ask for 9% plus.
Chansiri is trolling the fans who call themselves the "real owners". Chansiri then says "real owners cough up" at which point the dissolve into the mist.
People say I am obsessed with the SCST. They had it all but none of the 1000 members were brave enough to demand a sale of the shares and taking responsibility in 2015 -2016.
SCST had good PR and played the fans like a snake charmer. Sadly they kicked the can down the road but were forced to face up by law to the truth after 6 years. The old Trust still pedal their nonsense and deflect blame to the current incumbents. |
Yawn. |  | | |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 16:38 - Oct 31 with 1891 views | onehunglow |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 14:31 - Oct 31 by vetchonian |
And people moan about our owners.
Lets hope though this doesn't give Jason et al ideas |
Yes we do moan about our owners because we deserve better
The fact Owls seem worse is of no consequence | |
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| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 16:46 - Oct 31 with 1882 views | RhonddaSwans |
😂 £100 off 20,000 fans.
Bet the same fans won't get a penny if he then goes onto sell the club for millions.
These neo chairmen are mental they can't expect people who support a club to fork out for his tax bill.
He should just hand the club over to someone else if he is that checked out.
In modern football anywhere outside the top flight doesn't make money.
We have been lucky with some gems being sold here over the last 5 years.
Without player sales we would be in hell of a mess.
I feel sorry for Sheffield Wednesday fans.
The FA needs to step in or the Sheffield Wednesday fans need to miss a few games to show how how much they all ready give!
An average fan will spend out on season tickets, merch, over priced beer and food, travel, time, mental anguish! | |
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| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 16:56 - Oct 31 with 1854 views | Dr_Winston |
It would be interesting to know how much, if any, he put into the club before withdrawing all support.
I suppose something like this was inevitable eventually given how much supporters grumble over "Investment" and "ambition" when simply existing as a Championship club is eye wateringly expensive. Eventually someone was going to lose patience with it.
Steve Lansdown at Bristol City is getting it in the neck now. I shudder to think how much he's sunk into them. |  |
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| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 17:19 - Oct 31 with 1814 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 15:37 - Oct 31 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Swansea fans who dozily let £20m slip them by post 2016 have £1m in the bank doing nothing.
I think they are able if required to give it to Jason as a bridging loan. If they had any worldly skills at all they would charge 5% per year generating a return. £50,000.
Cheaper than McQuarrie bank or Mr Dell who would ask for 9% plus.
Chansiri is trolling the fans who call themselves the "real owners". Chansiri then says "real owners cough up" at which point the dissolve into the mist.
People say I am obsessed with the SCST. They had it all but none of the 1000 members were brave enough to demand a sale of the shares and taking responsibility in 2015 -2016.
SCST had good PR and played the fans like a snake charmer. Sadly they kicked the can down the road but were forced to face up by law to the truth after 6 years. The old Trust still pedal their nonsense and deflect blame to the current incumbents. |
You're allegedly a Swansea fan , does that make you dozy? |  | | |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 19:15 - Oct 31 with 1712 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 17:19 - Oct 31 by Treforys_Jack |
You're allegedly a Swansea fan , does that make you dozy? |
I am a Swansea fan but no fan of the fans. I promoted on another forum that the Trust selling up was a no brainer and that the legal case was dumb. A forum sage demanded my removal and I got a permanent ban. The SCST moment of destiny came in 2015 and they choked. Not one of the members said a dickie bird.
The fans were too cowardly to sell their shares and take a real role in the running of the club including investment. German fans are braver and smarter it seems.
Many like to put the boot in on the current Trust board on this forum. They are upset they did not go to court and, at best, pay third parties £millions of the other club owner's money (that has now been invested into the club). Then put £10m or so into a zombie fund getting no interest.
No one criticises the leadership of the Trust in 2015 -2016. They won the lottery and declined to submit the winning ticket. They were really stupid in my opinion.
No one agrees with me. Why is this?. No one dare break ranks. With a good fake narrative football people are easy meat
Lets all kneel in to praise Black Lives Matter. The police will arrest anyone who objects. (BLM would defund the same police given the chance.) This is what happens in an intellectual no go zone. We have all been to school and have brains. | |
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| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 21:33 - Oct 31 with 1605 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 19:15 - Oct 31 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I am a Swansea fan but no fan of the fans. I promoted on another forum that the Trust selling up was a no brainer and that the legal case was dumb. A forum sage demanded my removal and I got a permanent ban. The SCST moment of destiny came in 2015 and they choked. Not one of the members said a dickie bird.
The fans were too cowardly to sell their shares and take a real role in the running of the club including investment. German fans are braver and smarter it seems.
Many like to put the boot in on the current Trust board on this forum. They are upset they did not go to court and, at best, pay third parties £millions of the other club owner's money (that has now been invested into the club). Then put £10m or so into a zombie fund getting no interest.
No one criticises the leadership of the Trust in 2015 -2016. They won the lottery and declined to submit the winning ticket. They were really stupid in my opinion.
No one agrees with me. Why is this?. No one dare break ranks. With a good fake narrative football people are easy meat
Lets all kneel in to praise Black Lives Matter. The police will arrest anyone who objects. (BLM would defund the same police given the chance.) This is what happens in an intellectual no go zone. We have all been to school and have brains. |
How many people on here support BLM or were members of the trust in 2016?
What is really doxy is insulting a large group of people who were nothing to do with the thing that you keep rattling on about.
On the subject of Chansiri, if he didn't pay these bills but then spent the money he should be liable. Too many owners put clubs in trouble then walk away.
The real problem here is footballers wages. Clubs should only pay what they can afford, the reason a championship club is so epensive to run is because we all pay a lot more than we can afford.
The point about there being no profit outside the EPL is wrong too, a lot of EPL clubs run at a loss. In fact football in general pays outa lot more than it can afford, even Real Madrid and barca have had debt problems,
EPL debt... https://sportsbrief.com/footba | | | |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 21:36 - Oct 31 with 1604 views | builthjack |
I, and lots that I know locally, were members of the trust in 2016.
Everyone that I know voted to fight the case.
Yet bizarrely, the vote went the other way. It didn’t make sense. |  |
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| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 22:17 - Oct 31 with 1583 views | Whiterockin |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 21:36 - Oct 31 by builthjack |
I, and lots that I know locally, were members of the trust in 2016.
Everyone that I know voted to fight the case.
Yet bizarrely, the vote went the other way. It didn’t make sense. |
This 100% and the reason the majority completely withdrew their trust membership. | | | |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 00:26 - Nov 1 with 1514 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 21:36 - Oct 31 by builthjack |
I, and lots that I know locally, were members of the trust in 2016.
Everyone that I know voted to fight the case.
Yet bizarrely, the vote went the other way. It didn’t make sense. |
It is bizarre that you voted to sue the club's other owners (who have since invested in the club) and agreed to pay the the intermediaries (from outside our borders with no interest in Wales or football) £10m plus.
It is bizarre that the Trust seems unable to protect its assets against inflation (a word no fan can mention or seemingly comprehend). A £11m fund after a court win would depreciate £64,000 a month without reinvestment.
Is is bizarre a that educated people agreed to this madness and some were chartered accountants.
It is bizarre that no one appears to agree with me.
Everything makes sense to me. The membership were not up to the job of defending its interest as they did not fully debate the pro s and cons of selling their shares at £1m per 1%. | |
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| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 09:17 - Nov 1 with 1427 views | Whiterockin |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 00:26 - Nov 1 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It is bizarre that you voted to sue the club's other owners (who have since invested in the club) and agreed to pay the the intermediaries (from outside our borders with no interest in Wales or football) £10m plus.
It is bizarre that the Trust seems unable to protect its assets against inflation (a word no fan can mention or seemingly comprehend). A £11m fund after a court win would depreciate £64,000 a month without reinvestment.
Is is bizarre a that educated people agreed to this madness and some were chartered accountants.
It is bizarre that no one appears to agree with me.
Everything makes sense to me. The membership were not up to the job of defending its interest as they did not fully debate the pro s and cons of selling their shares at £1m per 1%. |
It is bizarre that no one appears to agree with me.
Could that be because you are wrong. | | | |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 12:10 - Nov 1 with 1320 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Championship football is fine if you have parachute payments or money to burn, otherwise it's financial suicide. |  |
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| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 12:32 - Nov 1 with 1297 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 09:17 - Nov 1 by Whiterockin |
It is bizarre that no one appears to agree with me.
Could that be because you are wrong. |
It is most bizarre that he keeps on going on about it when nobody else is interested.
He must spend a lot of time in front of his mirror because it's the only way he gets answers.
Nobody agrees with him because he's spouting (in my opinion) nonsense.
On Builth's post, the only people I know who were trust members back then voted the same way as him so on the very limited evidence you have to question the outcome and wonder what happened for the vote to swing that way?
Did people on the trust board gain anything from the deal, personally that is? | | | |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 12:42 - Nov 1 with 1283 views | Whiterockin |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 12:32 - Nov 1 by SullutaCreturned |
It is most bizarre that he keeps on going on about it when nobody else is interested.
He must spend a lot of time in front of his mirror because it's the only way he gets answers.
Nobody agrees with him because he's spouting (in my opinion) nonsense.
On Builth's post, the only people I know who were trust members back then voted the same way as him so on the very limited evidence you have to question the outcome and wonder what happened for the vote to swing that way?
Did people on the trust board gain anything from the deal, personally that is? |
Everyone I know voted the same way as builthie and were very angry at the lack of action. As proved in the lack of trust and the total collapse of membership. | | | |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 13:28 - Nov 1 with 1241 views | onehunglow |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 12:32 - Nov 1 by SullutaCreturned |
It is most bizarre that he keeps on going on about it when nobody else is interested.
He must spend a lot of time in front of his mirror because it's the only way he gets answers.
Nobody agrees with him because he's spouting (in my opinion) nonsense.
On Builth's post, the only people I know who were trust members back then voted the same way as him so on the very limited evidence you have to question the outcome and wonder what happened for the vote to swing that way?
Did people on the trust board gain anything from the deal, personally that is? |
You can be in a minority of one and still be right
I think I agree with him on certain aspects but as regards the sale,it was the way it was done and to whom we were sold .
He clearly doesn’t like Jacks and that’s alright by me
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| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 14:29 - Nov 1 with 1202 views | Boundy |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 21:36 - Oct 31 by builthjack |
I, and lots that I know locally, were members of the trust in 2016.
Everyone that I know voted to fight the case.
Yet bizarrely, the vote went the other way. It didn’t make sense. |
Same as me , I finished with it when the will of the majority were ignored | |
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| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 14:58 - Nov 1 with 1190 views | Fireboy2 |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 14:29 - Nov 1 by Boundy |
Same as me , I finished with it when the will of the majority were ignored |
Same here, the vote was rigged, how? Someone knows. | | | |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 19:03 - Nov 1 with 1088 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 13:28 - Nov 1 by onehunglow |
You can be in a minority of one and still be right
I think I agree with him on certain aspects but as regards the sale,it was the way it was done and to whom we were sold .
He clearly doesn’t like Jacks and that’s alright by me
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Well yes you can but when you have a vote to decide which decision to make it is NOT right to ignore it. If it turns out to be a bad decision then the majority, who got their way, cannot complain.
This wasn't really about the sale of the club though, more about HOW it was sold and why the trust were kept in the dark. It doesn't matter anymore, the trust members were sold out by the board, who knows why, it's not something to keep going on about.
Being in a minority of one usually means you are wrong though. | | | |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 19:05 - Nov 1 with 1088 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 14:29 - Nov 1 by Boundy |
Same as me , I finished with it when the will of the majority were ignored |
The way i see it the people promoting legal action had not thought through the process or outcomes and did not understand what they were doing, A win for the Trust would have been a great result for London third parties agents and a disaster for the city of Swansea.
The setting up of the convertible loan note was a masterstroke by the US owners as that money was either going to the club (which it has now) or split 50:50 (roughly it seems) between the Trust and the agents. Happily the £20m has gone to the club not the Trust and agents.
The new board understood this perhaps having worked it through with people friendly Jake Silverstein. Jake took time to work out actually what they wanted (protection from dilution) and may have given it to them at 5%. It is not 100% clear to me if this is for economic value (eg Dividends % sale value) or just voting rights. It is a good deal if the former and a bad deal if the latter.
The fact that people still wanted to take a huge gamble of potentially bankrupting the Trust and harming the club as well, for the interests of others, proves to me that Swansea fans are not sufficiently business savvy or responsible enough to be owners of the club.
The inevitable dilution of them is actually a good thing not a bad thing. Swansea was developed by the business people of the city who are despised by some groups in the club and that is no great surprise.
Chansiri has paid the tax bill and was trolling the fans. If he was serious he would have put up shares in the club for fans to buy. £2m might buy 2.5% of the club and a place on the board.
The Swansea owners let the fans buy 20% of the club for peanuts in the bad old days and were shocked that the fans turned on them when they sold holdings. The fans have behaved lamentably as owners and are in a mess created by themselves. Business ownership needs good decisions and Swansea fans could not take them. Bad decisions means disaster. This is now being seen. The four horses of the apocalypse. [Post edited 1 Nov 2023 19:11]
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| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 19:28 - Nov 1 with 1074 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Sheffield Wednesday owner asks fans for money on 19:03 - Nov 1 by SullutaCreturned |
Well yes you can but when you have a vote to decide which decision to make it is NOT right to ignore it. If it turns out to be a bad decision then the majority, who got their way, cannot complain.
This wasn't really about the sale of the club though, more about HOW it was sold and why the trust were kept in the dark. It doesn't matter anymore, the trust members were sold out by the board, who knows why, it's not something to keep going on about.
Being in a minority of one usually means you are wrong though. |
You are not thinking like a business person but thinking emotionally.
I am right. The Trust is in the dog house because of poor business decisions. They could not rectify these bad decisions as they did not have enough money to go to court.
The gambled on Swansea staying in the Premier league and lost. The court case was double or nothing bet with borrowed money. Black or Red. 50 :50. (Holy shit). A "last resort" the QC called it. In reality for the members like you it seems it was first resort.
You did the right thing. Football club ownership with not for profit group is not for you. I have over the years tried to explain this. [Post edited 1 Nov 2023 22:18]
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