| Sunak and Starmer 22:31 - Nov 15 with 2663 views | max936 |
What an absolute joke of a PM and the wanna be PM.
Neither are fit to run a bath let alone the country, its an absolute shambles, its a great pity that we can't send them all to the Tower these days.
There's no one in either party fit enough to run the country just as well put Trigger in charge. |  |
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| Sunak and Starmer on 22:41 - Nov 15 with 2008 views | Boundy |
I'm afraid you're right , I can't think of one redeeming attribute of either Starmer or Sunak , you could swop the colour of their ties and you'd still end up with he same bland nonsensical policy's ( well as diverse as the Tories are at least you know what you're getting I suppose }, I have no idea what to expect from a Westminster Labour government which is a worry |  |
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| Sunak and Starmer on 22:47 - Nov 15 with 2005 views | max936 |
| Sunak and Starmer on 22:41 - Nov 15 by Boundy |
I'm afraid you're right , I can't think of one redeeming attribute of either Starmer or Sunak , you could swop the colour of their ties and you'd still end up with he same bland nonsensical policy's ( well as diverse as the Tories are at least you know what you're getting I suppose }, I have no idea what to expect from a Westminster Labour government which is a worry |
Absolutely Boundy. Like I've posted in the past this Country needs to reset Parliament and get people from all walks of life with the right qualities to run the country, not gonna happen overnight or even over 5yrs, but a start needs to be made.
On one hand we got a Party who are in government stabbing each other in the back and we got Starmer making knee jerk decisions against people he's supposedly trusts.
It's laughable and shocking. | |
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| Sunak and Starmer on 23:19 - Nov 15 with 1965 views | onehunglow |
Dead right Ste
Those enjoying ripping the Storirs falling them vile scum etc had better be careful for they wish for
I believe anyone with s house and car under labour will be hammered in a way not thought possible | |
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| Sunak and Starmer on 06:29 - Nov 16 with 1931 views | Whiterockin |
I notice that the rebellion against Starmer has gone without comment on here. Ten of the party's frontbenchers have left their jobs over the vote, if it was the Conservatives there would be multiple threads. When will people wake up and realise neither party are fit to run the country. The best we can hope for is no overall majority next year and they have to thrash out an agreement between them on major policies. |  | | |
| Sunak and Starmer on 07:16 - Nov 16 with 1913 views | Gwyn737 |
| Sunak and Starmer on 06:29 - Nov 16 by Whiterockin |
I notice that the rebellion against Starmer has gone without comment on here. Ten of the party's frontbenchers have left their jobs over the vote, if it was the Conservatives there would be multiple threads. When will people wake up and realise neither party are fit to run the country. The best we can hope for is no overall majority next year and they have to thrash out an agreement between them on major policies. |
For me, it’s a reflection that both parties have their wings. If MPs always follow the party line it becomes a problem.
We want our politicians to vote for their constituents and that’s what the Labour MPs believe they have done. The ERG have done this to the Tories for years. You could argue that opposition to leadership got Brexit done.
Personally, as someone who leans towards Starmer’s positions more often than not, I’m ok with those frontbencher MPs going.
I also understand that many others will think differently. | | | |
| Sunak and Starmer on 07:44 - Nov 16 with 1902 views | Scotia |
Whilst I think Starmer and the Labour party will be a massive upgrade on this current government (although that's a very low bar) I personally find it disapointing that our politicians as a collective couldn't vote for a ceasefire. That is party politics and world politics for you.
Well done on all 56 who voted with their principles and against the party line. If your MP voted against your personal wishes consider that when you vote in the GE next year. But make sure you vote.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-mps-who-voted-for-ceasefir | | | |
| Sunak and Starmer on 08:10 - Nov 16 with 1884 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Sunak and Starmer on 07:44 - Nov 16 by Scotia |
Whilst I think Starmer and the Labour party will be a massive upgrade on this current government (although that's a very low bar) I personally find it disapointing that our politicians as a collective couldn't vote for a ceasefire. That is party politics and world politics for you.
Well done on all 56 who voted with their principles and against the party line. If your MP voted against your personal wishes consider that when you vote in the GE next year. But make sure you vote.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-mps-who-voted-for-ceasefir |
Just voting for a ceasefire is meaningless virtue signalling. Hames as a terrorist organisation will never agree to a ceasefire or release their hostages. | |
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| Sunak and Starmer on 08:44 - Nov 16 with 1865 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Sunak and Starmer on 08:10 - Nov 16 by felixstowe_jack |
Just voting for a ceasefire is meaningless virtue signalling. Hames as a terrorist organisation will never agree to a ceasefire or release their hostages. |
Looks like Labour has a similar division to the Conservatives.. I'm not sure the average working person will be any better off under Labour. [Post edited 16 Nov 2023 8:48]
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| Sunak and Starmer on 09:01 - Nov 16 with 1835 views | onehunglow |
| Sunak and Starmer on 08:10 - Nov 16 by felixstowe_jack |
Just voting for a ceasefire is meaningless virtue signalling. Hames as a terrorist organisation will never agree to a ceasefire or release their hostages. |
Israel could play smart and do a ceasefire for 48 hrs and we ll see who is really responsible for all this .
Free the hostages | |
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| Sunak and Starmer on 09:14 - Nov 16 with 1816 views | Boundy |
| Sunak and Starmer on 09:01 - Nov 16 by onehunglow |
Israel could play smart and do a ceasefire for 48 hrs and we ll see who is really responsible for all this .
Free the hostages |
Imo if there was to have ceasefire all it will do will give Hamas time regroup to go again | |
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| Sunak and Starmer on 09:19 - Nov 16 with 1803 views | controversial_jack |
Starmer is distancing himself from supporting the Palestinians , as he doesn't want to be seen as anti Semitic, the same way Corbyn was smeared by the Tories and the press.
I can't say I agree with that stance, and it's left me with a difficult choice as both sides are supporting the Zionists. I may not vote at all | | | |
| Sunak and Starmer on 09:28 - Nov 16 with 1787 views | trampie |
| Sunak and Starmer on 09:19 - Nov 16 by controversial_jack |
Starmer is distancing himself from supporting the Palestinians , as he doesn't want to be seen as anti Semitic, the same way Corbyn was smeared by the Tories and the press.
I can't say I agree with that stance, and it's left me with a difficult choice as both sides are supporting the Zionists. I may not vote at all |
Labour and Conservatives are both the same they are both right wing imperialist parties, Plaid, SNP, Greens voting for a ceasefire as you would expect, Starmer is as right wing as Margaret Thatcher, Starmer might well be biased against the Palestinians because of his immediate family. |  |
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| Sunak and Starmer on 09:32 - Nov 16 with 1775 views | trampie |
| Sunak and Starmer on 08:44 - Nov 16 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Looks like Labour has a similar division to the Conservatives.. I'm not sure the average working person will be any better off under Labour. [Post edited 16 Nov 2023 8:48]
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Liebour and the Cons are both the same right wing, unionist, little Englander parties. | |
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| Sunak and Starmer on 10:09 - Nov 16 with 1755 views | max936 |
| Sunak and Starmer on 23:19 - Nov 15 by onehunglow |
Dead right Ste
Those enjoying ripping the Storirs falling them vile scum etc had better be careful for they wish for
I believe anyone with s house and car under labour will be hammered in a way not thought possible |
I've ripped into them both, I had hopes for Starmer he's turned out to another another dud unfortunately, you can't class Labour in the same class as these Tories after what they have done over these last years, they've been and continue to be an absolute calamity, full of lies and corruption. Disgraceful,. | |
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| Sunak and Starmer on 10:10 - Nov 16 with 1752 views | max936 |
| Sunak and Starmer on 07:16 - Nov 16 by Gwyn737 |
For me, it’s a reflection that both parties have their wings. If MPs always follow the party line it becomes a problem.
We want our politicians to vote for their constituents and that’s what the Labour MPs believe they have done. The ERG have done this to the Tories for years. You could argue that opposition to leadership got Brexit done.
Personally, as someone who leans towards Starmer’s positions more often than not, I’m ok with those frontbencher MPs going.
I also understand that many others will think differently. |
Spot on Gwyn. | |
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| Sunak and Starmer on 10:11 - Nov 16 with 1747 views | max936 |
| Sunak and Starmer on 08:44 - Nov 16 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Looks like Labour has a similar division to the Conservatives.. I'm not sure the average working person will be any better off under Labour. [Post edited 16 Nov 2023 8:48]
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Nor me, a case of out of the frying pan and into the fire. | |
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| Sunak and Starmer on 10:20 - Nov 16 with 1732 views | controversial_jack |
| Sunak and Starmer on 09:01 - Nov 16 by onehunglow |
Israel could play smart and do a ceasefire for 48 hrs and we ll see who is really responsible for all this .
Free the hostages |
Israel will have to release the Palestinians they unlawfully hold in their prisons first, and that won’t happen | | | |
| Sunak and Starmer on 12:07 - Nov 16 with 1703 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Sunak and Starmer on 10:20 - Nov 16 by controversial_jack |
Israel will have to release the Palestinians they unlawfully hold in their prisons first, and that won’t happen |
They have all been convicted in a court of law, rather than kidnapped or murdered. | |
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| Sunak and Starmer on 12:22 - Nov 16 with 1684 views | onehunglow |
| Sunak and Starmer on 12:07 - Nov 16 by felixstowe_jack |
They have all been convicted in a court of law, rather than kidnapped or murdered. |
….which of course is the difference . | |
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| Sunak and Starmer on 12:46 - Nov 16 with 1662 views | trampie |
| Sunak and Starmer on 12:07 - Nov 16 by felixstowe_jack |
They have all been convicted in a court of law, rather than kidnapped or murdered. |
JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel is holding over 1,200 detainees — nearly all of them Palestinians — without charge or trial, the highest number in over three decades | |
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| Sunak and Starmer on 13:33 - Nov 16 with 1638 views | trampie |
There was hundreds of Palestinians killed by Israelis this year before Oct7, the exact figures who knows but it seems certain it was over 200, with 238 and 250 being common numbers I've seen, killed mainly by settlers with some by the authorities, lots of boys killed and in lots of cases/all cases - nobody done for murder that I have seen (can't be arsed to check). | |
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| Sunak and Starmer on 13:34 - Nov 16 with 1637 views | controversial_jack |
| Sunak and Starmer on 12:07 - Nov 16 by felixstowe_jack |
They have all been convicted in a court of law, rather than kidnapped or murdered. |
No they haven't at all [Post edited 16 Nov 2023 13:35]
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| Sunak and Starmer on 16:31 - Nov 16 with 1583 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Sunak and Starmer on 13:34 - Nov 16 by controversial_jack |
No they haven't at all [Post edited 16 Nov 2023 13:35]
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A bit like Russia then. I am surprised you do not support Israel if they, as you claim, they follow Russia tactics. | |
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| Sunak and Starmer on 17:38 - Nov 16 with 1552 views | SullutaCreturned |
I've been saying it for ages, neither Labour or Tory are fit to run this country. | | | |
| Sunak and Starmer on 18:02 - Nov 16 with 1538 views | max936 |
| Sunak and Starmer on 17:38 - Nov 16 by SullutaCreturned |
I've been saying it for ages, neither Labour or Tory are fit to run this country. |
Better off putting the committee from the Phoenix Nights Club in charge. | |
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