| The Beale and end all? Column on 17:51 - Jun 6 with 1874 views | PinnerPaul |
| The Beale and end all? Column on 17:39 - Jun 6 by A40Bosh |
So, have I understood the dynamics of the whole Warbs out - Beale in correctly ?
'Warbs out' came about as a direct result of Warbs telling Les and Lee at the end of the 2021 calendar year that if they wanted promotion in May 2022 then he could not be expected to regularly field a side which blooded youth on a regular basis and that he had to get some seasoned pros in again in Jan and he got in only one or two.
Then, either through bad luck or other machinations results went to schite and Warbs missed the playoff minimum target - Warbs gone
'Beale in' is on the understanding that Les and Lee have remained convinced and have sold it to the owners that the youth et up at QPR regardless of Warbs saying otherwise IS strong at the club and that they still believe in what Chris Ramsey and the youth team management are saying about their set up and they need to get the right first team coach in now who will recognise the how strong the youth set up is at QPR and that in 2022/23 the current remaining 1st team squad + an injection of under 23s /B Team players will do enough to kick on again and be in and around the playoffs
If Beale fails then will the board still side with Les and Chris Ramsey or realise that the youth set up is not producing Championship level talent or will it be time to clear out the DOF set up and bring in the old guard again
Would be interested to really hear what the actual expectation is for 2022/2023 season |
You might be disappointed - MB said it would remain 'internal' in his interview.
The difference between Mark and Michael is Michael's pedigree in working with and developing outstanding young players, therefore, pure speculation alert!, Ramsey at al might be prepared to listen more to his ideas for the development of the players outside the first team AND he might be more interested in that than MW was? |  | |  |
| The Beale and end all? Column on 17:55 - Jun 6 with 1861 views | daveB |
| The Beale and end all? Column on 20:43 - Jun 5 by davman |
But why would he want to sign an extension to his current deal? He knows that the cards will be in the clubs hands if he signs an extension on wages much lower than he could command elsewhere and running down his contract must be a very attractive proposition to him. Yes, he might be able to eek out another couple of ks a week with us for another year, but other than that, what is in it for him?
Genuine Q as I'd love to hear your logic. Mine is that a player must surely be better off negotiating as a free agent rather than one who has just cost a club £Xm?
Extending is clearly in the club's interests, no obligation on the player to extend... |
What's in it for him is earning more money now, it's not as if the club will stand in his way if an offer comes in for him. I get what you mean and if this was his last year he'd be mad to sign anything but with 2 years left getting more money makes sense for him |  | | |
| The Beale and end all? Column on 20:47 - Jun 6 with 1664 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| The Beale and end all? Column on 16:19 - Jun 6 by Northernr |
Really, the second promotion, under Redknapp, was an astonishing missed opportunity. They'd failed once, and went back and failed doing all of exactly the same things. We have nothing to show for spending three years out of four in the Prem - that should have been enough money there to set the club up for ten years or more. Instead we've spent that time clearing up the mess we got ourselves into chucking money at players and agents. Really sad. |
Indeed. I can forgive the board for getting carried away in 2011 as they had just purchased the club and had little time to prepare. However repeating the same mistakes in 2014 was unforgivable and really put the club on the back foot. |  | | |
| The Beale and end all? Column on 22:53 - Jun 6 with 1584 views | davman |
| The Beale and end all? Column on 17:55 - Jun 6 by daveB |
What's in it for him is earning more money now, it's not as if the club will stand in his way if an offer comes in for him. I get what you mean and if this was his last year he'd be mad to sign anything but with 2 years left getting more money makes sense for him |
Yeh, you're right of course, BUT when was the last time this board extended a contract aside from Nike, Ozzie and Mido? Chair is probably the only one I remember that they have extended over the last few years.
As much as I'd like to see it happen, it does not appear to be their way. That's fine, but don't then go crying foul when BOS or Manning do what they are absolutely entitled to and run their contracts down because you left it too late to negotiate. |  |
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| The Beale and end all? Column on 23:24 - Jun 6 with 1545 views | CamberleyR |
| The Beale and end all? Column on 22:53 - Jun 6 by davman |
Yeh, you're right of course, BUT when was the last time this board extended a contract aside from Nike, Ozzie and Mido? Chair is probably the only one I remember that they have extended over the last few years.
As much as I'd like to see it happen, it does not appear to be their way. That's fine, but don't then go crying foul when BOS or Manning do what they are absolutely entitled to and run their contracts down because you left it too late to negotiate. |
Dieng extended his deal in Sept 2020
https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/club-news/seny-dieng-signs-contract-until-2024/ |  |
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| The Beale and end all? Column on 07:03 - Jun 7 with 1424 views | davman |
Hopefully then... | |
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| The Beale and end all? Column on 09:40 - Jun 7 with 1347 views | francisbowles |
I can't spend ages looking for links but I seem to remember Freeman and Eze signing extensions about a year before they were sold. | | | |
| The Beale and end all? Column on 10:46 - Jun 7 with 1268 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| The Beale and end all? Column on 09:40 - Jun 7 by francisbowles |
I can't spend ages looking for links but I seem to remember Freeman and Eze signing extensions about a year before they were sold. |
Both resulting in higher fees no doubt. |  | | |
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| The Beale and end all? Column on 10:54 - Jun 7 with 1244 views | Jeff |
| The Beale and end all? Column on 10:46 - Jun 7 by CroydonCaptJack |
Both resulting in higher fees no doubt. |
absolutely - we got £4/5m for Freeman purely because he signed a new contact with us.
I distinctly remember Stainrod's Elbow being absolutely apoplectic with rage at the idea that Freeman extended his contract and then was sold after signing it. |  |
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| The Beale and end all? Column on 16:19 - Jun 9 with 928 views | PinnerPaul |
| The Beale and end all? Column on 22:53 - Jun 6 by davman |
Yeh, you're right of course, BUT when was the last time this board extended a contract aside from Nike, Ozzie and Mido? Chair is probably the only one I remember that they have extended over the last few years.
As much as I'd like to see it happen, it does not appear to be their way. That's fine, but don't then go crying foul when BOS or Manning do what they are absolutely entitled to and run their contracts down because you left it too late to negotiate. |
Can't resist, I was cheering rather than crying foul when one of them left!  | | | |
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