| Linford Christie Stadium. 18:04 - Aug 9 with 122783 views | ted_hendrix |
That's where our new ground will be. |  |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 12:56 - Oct 28 with 2636 views | switchingcode |
Brentford’s new stadium is built on around 22000 square metres and holds 17500
Loftus road is just over 18000 square metres so the option of building a 25000 + stadium on the site is not there.Would have thought LC site would be perfect and the sale of LR would go a long way towards the build costs. |  | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 12:57 - Oct 28 with 2640 views | danehoop |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 12:36 - Oct 28 by Esox_Lucius |
A factor in future plans should also be the consideration of moving outside the ULEZ area due to the amount of QPR fans who no longer live within 5 miles of W12. There used to be a demographics map on Ben's old .org site IIRC and it would be interesting to see an up to date version showing where our 14k fans are arriving from. Pricier parking and the ULEZ are already starting to cause concern among a number of the people I know who are regulars at W12 and maybe it is time to move back along the M40 to somewhere near Northolt/ Ruislip which is still a heartland for QPR AFAIK and should be a lot better for parking and travel access.
There are plenty of stadium designs which should allow the new ground to replicate the look of the KPFS and retain the closeness to the pitch required for the atmosphere. A 25-30K version of Boavista's ground looks to be a perfect solution to those who would miss the familiarity of our ground. |
Not sure if its greenbelt, but since HS2 came along its not so clear, but maybe a look at the area next to West Ruislip station where Ruislip golf course was/is (sorry not sure what is happening there now). HS2 has changed things a lot in that area and a large part of it is currently being used for the line itself - but after that is done it might work well as a ground. Close to Central Line, Chiltern Lines, Met and Piccadilly lines. Hillingdon would probably jump at the chance if they get a chance to make cash out an area that won't be popular for housing because of the line - an issue that a stadium wouldn't really be bothered by. |  |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:00 - Oct 28 with 2632 views | Northernr |
The buying up the houses thing means we're only one page of posts away from "can we dig down?"
There are 18 of them behind the Loft End, almost all split into ground floor, upstairs and basement flats. There are 24 of them behind Ellerslie Road, mostly of the same configuration. Zoopla currently has the houses down at £1.1m-£1.5m each and the flats at £500k-650k each.
Quite apart from pursuading people to sell, the time it would take to acquire them all, the planning permission etc etc you'd be talking about north of £50m just for that. |  | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:01 - Oct 28 with 2631 views | Esox_Lucius |
Is anyone on here au fait with the covenant on our ground? That may play a part in any future plans. |  |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:14 - Oct 28 with 2574 views | HAYESBOY |
Very terse.
Wonder if the club will reply. |  |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:15 - Oct 28 with 2565 views | Northernr |
Strange old statement that. As Lee Hoos pointed out in my interview with him, why do they keep going out of their way to mention that the owners are foreign? Why does that make a difference? Why do they admit that they bent over backwards to help Fulham and Chelsea (who also have rich foreign owners) but will only do so for QPR if we pursue a fan ownership model? Have other companies that have done big developments in this borough, like Westfield, been told by the council they have to change their ownership structure to get it through planning?
I get the bit about not gifting a piece of public land to a private business, but if they got their heads together it could be a win win on that site where they get a new athletics facility they don't have to pay for or upkeep, and we get a new stadium, instead of what's there now which is a crumbling mess they can't afford.
Strange statement for me. There seems to be some lingering suspicion somewhere along the line that our owners are looking to get a free stadium there, and then cash in on the land of the current one. If you think about that whole south side of SAR is an amazing development opportunity with the army barracks, the football pitches, the stadium, and a terrible pub all realtively easy to clear. Is this what the council is concerned about?
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:17 - Oct 28 with 2543 views | Bakes |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 12:57 - Oct 28 by danehoop |
Not sure if its greenbelt, but since HS2 came along its not so clear, but maybe a look at the area next to West Ruislip station where Ruislip golf course was/is (sorry not sure what is happening there now). HS2 has changed things a lot in that area and a large part of it is currently being used for the line itself - but after that is done it might work well as a ground. Close to Central Line, Chiltern Lines, Met and Piccadilly lines. Hillingdon would probably jump at the chance if they get a chance to make cash out an area that won't be popular for housing because of the line - an issue that a stadium wouldn't really be bothered by. |
It’s green belt land around there unless your HS2 then you can do pretty much what you please,
If you think it was fun securing warren farm then wait until you tell the residents of Ruislip and Ickenham that your thinking of plonking a stadium there. |  |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:22 - Oct 28 with 2513 views | ParkRoyalR |
Did'nt realise Wolfie Smith was a spokesman for H&F Council. That statement is beyond embarrassing, obviously unaware of our FFP fine!
Seeing as they played the foreign overseas owner stereo-type card, surprised they did'nt go full Emily Thornberry and mention loss of local food-banks.
H&F Council are notoriously difficult to deal with and that's when they do manage to get their arses into work! | | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:29 - Oct 28 with 2458 views | Harbour |
Terrible statement by LH&F almost childish point scoring. No meaningful dialogue between both parties. The last thing I remember was the residents survey on the proposed ground at LCS which seemed relatively positive response. 10 years to move out of LR may be an optimistic timescale. Not sure where the club goes from here findingreal estate within 2 miles might be difficult. | | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:39 - Oct 28 with 2400 views | daveB |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:22 - Oct 28 by ParkRoyalR |
Did'nt realise Wolfie Smith was a spokesman for H&F Council. That statement is beyond embarrassing, obviously unaware of our FFP fine!
Seeing as they played the foreign overseas owner stereo-type card, surprised they did'nt go full Emily Thornberry and mention loss of local food-banks.
H&F Council are notoriously difficult to deal with and that's when they do manage to get their arses into work! |
I assume the Fulham and Chelsea owners don't count as overseas then.
One glaring error is that we didn't buy the Warren Farm Training ground so that's complete nonsense |  | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:39 - Oct 28 with 2394 views | Phildo |
I wonder if the club have tried approaching Latymer upper about their playing fields? You would have to find them an alternative site as a minimum perhaps further out and some ££££ but it looks a big enough footprint? |  | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:40 - Oct 28 with 2384 views | QPR_Jim |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:15 - Oct 28 by Northernr |
Strange old statement that. As Lee Hoos pointed out in my interview with him, why do they keep going out of their way to mention that the owners are foreign? Why does that make a difference? Why do they admit that they bent over backwards to help Fulham and Chelsea (who also have rich foreign owners) but will only do so for QPR if we pursue a fan ownership model? Have other companies that have done big developments in this borough, like Westfield, been told by the council they have to change their ownership structure to get it through planning?
I get the bit about not gifting a piece of public land to a private business, but if they got their heads together it could be a win win on that site where they get a new athletics facility they don't have to pay for or upkeep, and we get a new stadium, instead of what's there now which is a crumbling mess they can't afford.
Strange statement for me. There seems to be some lingering suspicion somewhere along the line that our owners are looking to get a free stadium there, and then cash in on the land of the current one. If you think about that whole south side of SAR is an amazing development opportunity with the army barracks, the football pitches, the stadium, and a terrible pub all realtively easy to clear. Is this what the council is concerned about?
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"we cannot gift hundreds of millions of pounds worth of public land to QPR"
"Land with facilities on it which we can't afford to maintain and we certainly don't have enough money to develop into a more modern facility ourselves" the deluded spokesperson went on to say.
Previously LBHF seemed to want QPR to agree to renting a stadium there which they won't own and will have no say in how it's built, which seems totally stupid.
It's quite a quick response too, like you say it's strange how they mention nationality a lot, wtf does that have to do with it.
If they were to grant QPR a long lease they would have cut their expenses, moved a problem on, could demand some facilities for the public as part of the planning application and the cost would all be on QPR. Fan ownership would be great but so long as the lease of the site is to QPR whatever they build there would be owned by the club for the duration of the lease. |  | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:40 - Oct 28 with 2384 views | nadera78 |
Appalling statement from LBHF, all things considered. | | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:40 - Oct 28 with 2383 views | MedwayR |
Bizarre statement.
Are they suggesting the club put forward plans for LC Stadium despite not owning the site?
Isn't it a H&F project?
What is the council's position following their consultation from approx. 2 years ago?
Why do they think that QPR's funding of the new training ground is any of their business?
Also, why do they think fan-based ownership is the solution to any of their concerns?
If the council is serious about developing the LC site perhaps they need to engage with potential stakeholders and progress the project rather than let the site deteriorate at taxpayers expense, or have they got other motives and don't want QPR involved? All very strange. |  |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:46 - Oct 28 with 2338 views | BostonR |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:15 - Oct 28 by Northernr |
Strange old statement that. As Lee Hoos pointed out in my interview with him, why do they keep going out of their way to mention that the owners are foreign? Why does that make a difference? Why do they admit that they bent over backwards to help Fulham and Chelsea (who also have rich foreign owners) but will only do so for QPR if we pursue a fan ownership model? Have other companies that have done big developments in this borough, like Westfield, been told by the council they have to change their ownership structure to get it through planning?
I get the bit about not gifting a piece of public land to a private business, but if they got their heads together it could be a win win on that site where they get a new athletics facility they don't have to pay for or upkeep, and we get a new stadium, instead of what's there now which is a crumbling mess they can't afford.
Strange statement for me. There seems to be some lingering suspicion somewhere along the line that our owners are looking to get a free stadium there, and then cash in on the land of the current one. If you think about that whole south side of SAR is an amazing development opportunity with the army barracks, the football pitches, the stadium, and a terrible pub all realtively easy to clear. Is this what the council is concerned about?
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That statement needs an immediate response from the club - mind-blowingly stupid from H&F . The club should call them out on what planning deals were done with developers around White City. One would imagine they bend over backwards for those investments.
Demolishing most of SAR might be a concern for H&F but they can always refuse planning permission. Perhaps they have given up to another developer - just a thought.
H&F are playing politics here, but to what end? Something is not stacking up - call in the lawyers and have it out. |  | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:47 - Oct 28 with 2330 views | MedwayR |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:39 - Oct 28 by Phildo |
I wonder if the club have tried approaching Latymer upper about their playing fields? You would have to find them an alternative site as a minimum perhaps further out and some ££££ but it looks a big enough footprint? |
We could probably provide similar facilities at LR once we moved out. | |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:48 - Oct 28 with 2315 views | QPR_Jim |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:47 - Oct 28 by MedwayR |
We could probably provide similar facilities at LR once we moved out. |
What about creating a bit of space for them at our training ground in Heston, or would that be too far?
Or they could approach the council about LC stadium. [Post edited 28 Oct 2021 13:49]
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 14:04 - Oct 28 with 2250 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
So. As we were then. |  |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 14:07 - Oct 28 with 2232 views | daveB |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:48 - Oct 28 by QPR_Jim |
What about creating a bit of space for them at our training ground in Heston, or would that be too far?
Or they could approach the council about LC stadium. [Post edited 28 Oct 2021 13:49]
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hard to approach them when they have said they are doing a public consultation on the site and will announce what they plan to do with it which is what the club are waiting for | | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 14:12 - Oct 28 with 2204 views | MedwayR |
Perhaps we just need to be more forward thinking. Maybe we got a taste of the future with covid. Do we even need fans in the stadium? How about we use the training ground to host matches, sell match passes (QPR+) to watch the game on tv and set up a screen around the perimeter to show fans watching at home whilst playing crowd music over speakers. We could even host fans at a cinema screening to make extra cash. Sell Loftus Road and pocket the cash. TV money covers the cost of the squad and day-to-day running of the club. It's the future. | |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 14:15 - Oct 28 with 2189 views | Juzzie |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 12:46 - Oct 28 by nadera78 |
If you read the doc they don't say anything about acquiring surrounding property, and imply that it could be done on the existing site. That's why I said it felt 'ambitious'. |
yes, most definitely ambitious! |  | | |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 14:17 - Oct 28 with 2183 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 14:15 - Oct 28 by Juzzie |
yes, most definitely ambitious! |
Fantasy. Almost! | |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 14:21 - Oct 28 with 2160 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 14:07 - Oct 28 by daveB |
hard to approach them when they have said they are doing a public consultation on the site and will announce what they plan to do with it which is what the club are waiting for |
That would be a good site for us. Better than LCS really. | |
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| Linford Christie Stadium. on 14:38 - Oct 28 with 2073 views | daveB |
| Linford Christie Stadium. on 13:46 - Oct 28 by BostonR |
That statement needs an immediate response from the club - mind-blowingly stupid from H&F . The club should call them out on what planning deals were done with developers around White City. One would imagine they bend over backwards for those investments.
Demolishing most of SAR might be a concern for H&F but they can always refuse planning permission. Perhaps they have given up to another developer - just a thought.
H&F are playing politics here, but to what end? Something is not stacking up - call in the lawyers and have it out. |
The complete misinformation about Warren Farm in the statement is astounding, thats up there with the Austin offside. What a week | | | |
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