| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. 12:38 - Feb 8 with 3369 views | eb7526 |
In reference to Clive’s match report, what is the official law relating to when a referee should blow his whistle for the end of a half or match. Is he obliged to blow as soon as his watch reaches 45 mins plus added time, or must he wait for a neutral phase of the game before whistling? I always thought the latter, but that is based on nothing more than what I have always assumed! |  | | |  |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 12:45 - Feb 8 with 3349 views | terryb |
In theory, he is meant to blow directly his watch shows that time is up. He is not meant to allow any time after that apart from the taking of a penalty kick. In that instance, rebounds form the penalty are not allowed.
At least that was the case when I passed the referee exams! [Post edited 8 Feb 2021 12:45]
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| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 12:51 - Feb 8 with 3318 views | BrianMcCarthy |
When Eric Cantona has scored. |  |
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| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 12:56 - Feb 8 with 3302 views | loftboy |
Clive Thomas got it spot on at the World Cup! [Post edited 8 Feb 2021 12:56]
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| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 13:23 - Feb 8 with 3220 views | davman |
The answer is when time is up, irrespective of where the ball is.
It never seems to go that way.
I keep going on about this, but all elements of doubt go away if there is an official clock that only runs when the ball is in play. That will mean "shorter" halves (I daren't think how long a game would be if we had to get to 45 mins of ball in play).
It removes this debate, it removes any benefits of shithousery and time wasting. Still waiting to hear a downside other than "that's new"... Anyone? |  |
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| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 13:28 - Feb 8 with 3205 views | Superhoop83 |
A huge bugbear of mine is when the ball goes out for a corner as the added time runs out. The referee always seems to allow the corner to be taken and I have no idea why. |  |
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| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 13:29 - Feb 8 with 3197 views | PinnerPaul |
Agree about an independent timekeeper, said that before.
In Hockey, half times, goal celebs and penalty corners are all timed to the second!
They also allow players to sort out subs themselves without stopping play, so that cuts out the 'game management' as well!
In answer to the original question, ref is sole timekeeper so can stop play when he wants and although it should be strictly on the time, given the discretion allowed in what the ref adds on, it just makes sense to blow up when the play is in a 'neutral' area. | | | |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 16:45 - Feb 8 with 3098 views | eb7526 |
Thanks for the clarification guys. While we have the referees on, I have another thing I have noticed a lot. Quite a few seasons ago, if a player deliberately kicked a ball away after a foul, it seemed to always be an automatic yellow card. Nowadays it is so clear that players are coached that the nearest to the ball after a free kick is given against is to (not so subtley) kick the ball away from where the free kick should be taken or stand over the ball thus preventing a quick take. Is this something the referees have been told to use discretion on, or is it something that is now ‘part of the modern game’ along with accepting the contact and controlling the game (ie time wasting). | | | |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 16:53 - Feb 8 with 3075 views | CamberleyR |
When Sir Alex Ferguson says so. |  |
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| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 16:58 - Feb 8 with 3059 views | PinnerPaul |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 16:45 - Feb 8 by eb7526 |
Thanks for the clarification guys. While we have the referees on, I have another thing I have noticed a lot. Quite a few seasons ago, if a player deliberately kicked a ball away after a foul, it seemed to always be an automatic yellow card. Nowadays it is so clear that players are coached that the nearest to the ball after a free kick is given against is to (not so subtley) kick the ball away from where the free kick should be taken or stand over the ball thus preventing a quick take. Is this something the referees have been told to use discretion on, or is it something that is now ‘part of the modern game’ along with accepting the contact and controlling the game (ie time wasting). |
About managing the game again.
Chair stands over the ball a lot and he kicked the ball away on Saturday as well.
You don't want to give cheap yellows and, as you say, all teams do it, so no one makes a fuss when it happens.
If players are not going mad, its not affecting your control of the game, don't make yourself the star and start handing our cards. | | | |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 17:06 - Feb 8 with 3029 views | eb7526 |
Makes sense to me. I can stop shouting at the TV now!!! Well, about that at least.... | | | |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 19:14 - Feb 10 with 2705 views | Hastings_Hoops |
Why on earth they don’t just link the refs stopwatch to the stadium scoreboard so that it is there on plain view for all to see, I cannot understand.
That would encourage time wasting to stop as the clock would visibly stand still until the time wasting ended - and it would encourage the ref to stop the watch for time wasting! |  | | |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 19:27 - Feb 10 with 2680 views | Match82 |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 19:14 - Feb 10 by Hastings_Hoops |
Why on earth they don’t just link the refs stopwatch to the stadium scoreboard so that it is there on plain view for all to see, I cannot understand.
That would encourage time wasting to stop as the clock would visibly stand still until the time wasting ended - and it would encourage the ref to stop the watch for time wasting! |
It's a valid idea but my God can you imagine the controversy? VAR is bad enough but I don't need armchair experts arguing about whether man utd are being victimized because the ref didn't stop his watch straight away after the ball went out for a throw etc. |  | | |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 13:59 - Feb 11 with 2503 views | PinnerPaul |
TBF (apart from the timewasting) top refs USUALLY get it right but Paul Tierney didn't in the Man U v West Ham game.
1st half there were two long stoppages for injuries, which I made about 6 minutes and he only added 3.
Think he forgot about the first one tbh! | | | |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 14:05 - Feb 11 with 2496 views | nick_hammersmith |
The matches would all finish at different times, so TV wouldn’t like it.
I think it sounds like a good idea for fans though | | | |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 14:27 - Feb 11 with 2464 views | HamptonR |
My understanding was that the ref blew for time when time was up, more often than not just as the keeper had kicked the ball up in the air.
Other peoples understanding (not all) can be very strange. I was at a football tournament a few years ago, I used to spend most of my life at matches and or tournaments.
I was watching an Under 9 game, being refereed by a young girl, probably about 16 years old.
All was well, one team was giving their opposition a tonking, they were 5 nil up, when their forward broke away on the half way line just as the ref blew the final whistle.
The coach of the winning and attacking team went mental at the ref, screaming and shouting at her, you cant do that, you cant blow when an attack is happening. He marched on to the pitch waving his arms around. He then told the ref he will be reporting her to the tournament organisers. The poor girl was reduced to tears as he strode off to the control room.
Conclusion:
The head ref, who happened to be Berks and Bucks senior ref of the year, told him in no uncertain terms that if he speaks like that again to that referee or any other referee, he and his team will be thrown out of the tournament. Did not hear much more from him that day. | | | |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 14:53 - Feb 11 with 2438 views | PeterHucker |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 14:05 - Feb 11 by nick_hammersmith |
The matches would all finish at different times, so TV wouldn’t like it.
I think it sounds like a good idea for fans though |
The stadium clock run by an independent timekeeper that only ticks down when the ball is in play would stop timewasting overnight.
The matches wouldn't finish at different times that much because nobody would bother timewasting anymore.
Sometimes it takes players nearly a minute to take a throw in or goal kick. If there was no advantage to be had from doing that, then they'd just stop doing it. |  | | |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 18:07 - Feb 11 with 2400 views | QPR_John |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 14:53 - Feb 11 by PeterHucker |
The stadium clock run by an independent timekeeper that only ticks down when the ball is in play would stop timewasting overnight.
The matches wouldn't finish at different times that much because nobody would bother timewasting anymore.
Sometimes it takes players nearly a minute to take a throw in or goal kick. If there was no advantage to be had from doing that, then they'd just stop doing it. |
Stopping the clock every time a ball goes out of play is a little over the top, would you stop the clock when a foul is given and only restart when the free kick is taken. Maybe set a time limit for throw ins, goal kicks, goals etc. Of course what would cut down on time wasting is to make the goalkeeper kick from the side the ball went out. Always used to be that but is now a time wasters gift. | | | |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 19:11 - Feb 11 with 2349 views | OldPedro |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 18:07 - Feb 11 by QPR_John |
Stopping the clock every time a ball goes out of play is a little over the top, would you stop the clock when a foul is given and only restart when the free kick is taken. Maybe set a time limit for throw ins, goal kicks, goals etc. Of course what would cut down on time wasting is to make the goalkeeper kick from the side the ball went out. Always used to be that but is now a time wasters gift. |
I'd stop the clock for injuries and substitutions - lots of subs made near the end of games to try to waste time |  |
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| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 20:26 - Feb 11 with 2310 views | stowmarketrange |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 14:53 - Feb 11 by PeterHucker |
The stadium clock run by an independent timekeeper that only ticks down when the ball is in play would stop timewasting overnight.
The matches wouldn't finish at different times that much because nobody would bother timewasting anymore.
Sometimes it takes players nearly a minute to take a throw in or goal kick. If there was no advantage to be had from doing that, then they'd just stop doing it. |
I’m not convinced that they would.A lot of time wasting is done to break up the play,rather than purely waste time.But at least you’d know that whatever tactics they used,it would mean that at least you get the full 90 minutes to use. |  | | |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 09:53 - Feb 13 with 2201 views | TGRRRSSS |
From what I see it's often done after a goal kick or or something like that from what I see on telly or at games (back in the day) |  | | |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 10:18 - Feb 13 with 2172 views | rrrspricey |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 19:11 - Feb 11 by OldPedro |
I'd stop the clock for injuries and substitutions - lots of subs made near the end of games to try to waste time |
Better still just let subs happen as they do in hockey and rugb with play continuing.
Time keeping is a big issue for me too with refs seemingly always allowing the current attack to end first. Seen games with 1 minute of added time going 30-45 seconds over when the game hasn't stopped at all during the first minute. |  | | |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 11:04 - Feb 13 with 2158 views | davman |
I think I must be on ignore for a lot of posters on here as I am bemused by some of the subsequent posts...
Not saying this is correct by any means, but I am yet to see an answer to all these problems like a live clock.
1. Shorten the game to whatever the research says is a suitable time based on the average time a ball is in play over the 90 with the current rules (a quick Google suggests that 60 minutes would be suitable.
2. When the ball is in play, the clock runs. Simple, no need for clarification there, right?
3. If worried about "gamesmanship" time wasting to take the sting out of opposition momentum, introduce some laws about how long a team takes to restart.
4. Display clock in stadium starting and stopping when ball is out of play.
5. If we have to continue with VAR and game is pulled back, wind the clock back to the point it was at when the incident occurred.
This takes ambiguity out and let's the officials concentrate on running the game.
Where are the negatives or impracticalities in that? | |
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| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 11:25 - Feb 13 with 2130 views | HamptonR |
To prevent time wasting:
All goal kicks are taken from the side of the goal that the ref points to, it used to work and I have no idea why it was changed.
The Six Second rule is applied to goal kicks, free kicks, corner kicks and throw ins, from the time the ref blows or tells the player to take it.
And for added time, why not keep the scoreboard clock going, we are told what the minimum added time will be. | | | |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 14:29 - Feb 13 with 2082 views | PinnerPaul |
| When can a referee blow his whistle to finish a half/match. on 11:25 - Feb 13 by HamptonR |
To prevent time wasting:
All goal kicks are taken from the side of the goal that the ref points to, it used to work and I have no idea why it was changed.
The Six Second rule is applied to goal kicks, free kicks, corner kicks and throw ins, from the time the ref blows or tells the player to take it.
And for added time, why not keep the scoreboard clock going, we are told what the minimum added time will be. |
On the last one its because everyone and his dog, including Nick London when we're winning, forget that the added time is the MINIMUM time added and also as we've seen here recently, with everyone at home watching the clock, its just another stick to beat the referee with.
However, as in Hockey, I do agree with an independent timekeeper, subs 'on the go' and timed restarts such as after a goal (as in Hockey), not sure about throws, goal and corner kicks so much. | | | |
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