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Rooney to derby 23:02 - Aug 5 with 12299 viewsloftboy

As player coach!!

favourite cheese mature Cheddar. FFS there is no such thing as the EPL
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Rooney to derby on 00:04 - Aug 6 with 6152 viewsRassilon

Well, the last time we played against him, he spent most of the game explaining the rules to the referee, so I guess he's perfectly qualified.
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Rooney to derby on 08:15 - Aug 6 with 5866 viewsTonto

He wants to be nearer to several of his mistresses and prostitutes

Why stop now, just when I'm hating it
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Rooney to derby on 08:24 - Aug 6 with 5838 viewsrunningman75

He wants losing in a play off final to be on his CV. May get the Man United job then if Lampard can get the Chelsea job on the basis of one season.
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Rooney to derby on 08:25 - Aug 6 with 5833 viewsNorthernr

If they don't get promoted, having already sold their ground, where exactly do Derby seeing this nonsense ending?
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Rooney to derby on 08:38 - Aug 6 with 5791 viewsrsonist

Rooney to derby on 08:15 - Aug 6 by Tonto

He wants to be nearer to several of his mistresses and prostitutes


In-no-way related Fun Fact: Cocu means cuckold in French.
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Rooney to derby on 09:22 - Aug 6 with 5681 viewsstevec

Rooney to derby on 08:25 - Aug 6 by Northernr

If they don't get promoted, having already sold their ground, where exactly do Derby seeing this nonsense ending?


£150 million income versus a 9 point deduction.

Some clubs will think it's worth it.
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Rooney to derby on 09:23 - Aug 6 with 5673 viewsNorthernr

Rooney to derby on 09:22 - Aug 6 by stevec

£150 million income versus a 9 point deduction.

Some clubs will think it's worth it.


Yeh, that nonsense Birmingham punishment doesn't act as much deterrent does it?
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Rooney to derby on 09:47 - Aug 6 with 5592 viewsCamberleyR

Rooney to derby on 09:23 - Aug 6 by Northernr

Yeh, that nonsense Birmingham punishment doesn't act as much deterrent does it?


I've said it before on here and I'll say it again, any points deduction for breaking the P&S/FFP rules has got to be 20 points minimum to mean anything and probably go up on a sliding scale if they've really taken the piss.

A 20 point deduction would have relegated anyone from Stoke (15th) downwards and would have had everyone else from Blackburn (14th) to Brentford (11th) nervously sweating.

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Rooney to derby on 09:49 - Aug 6 with 5584 viewsCroydonCaptJack

Rooney to derby on 09:23 - Aug 6 by Northernr

Yeh, that nonsense Birmingham punishment doesn't act as much deterrent does it?


It would seem the opposite. Derby seem to be totally ignoring it.
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Rooney to derby on 09:55 - Aug 6 with 5561 viewsrsonist

Are Derby breaking the rules though?
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Rooney to derby on 10:05 - Aug 6 with 5523 viewsconnell10

How on God's green can this shit pot club afford his wages?? FFP obviously doesn't concern Derby one bit! Incredible really that they can get away with it!

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Rooney to derby on 10:05 - Aug 6 with 5521 viewsrbsranger

Rooney to derby on 09:55 - Aug 6 by rsonist

Are Derby breaking the rules though?


Interesting tweet from Daniel Storey (a journalist who I respect and a big Forest fan...)

Daniel Storey
@danielstorey85
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4m
Having sold their stadium last season to circumvent FFP issues, Derby County will sign Wayne Rooney as a player-coach so his significant salary can sit outside FFP calculations. I'm not mad, I'm impressed.
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Rooney to derby on 10:14 - Aug 6 with 5496 viewsrsonist

Rooney to derby on 10:05 - Aug 6 by rbsranger

Interesting tweet from Daniel Storey (a journalist who I respect and a big Forest fan...)

Daniel Storey
@danielstorey85
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4m
Having sold their stadium last season to circumvent FFP issues, Derby County will sign Wayne Rooney as a player-coach so his significant salary can sit outside FFP calculations. I'm not mad, I'm impressed.


http://priceoffootball.com/derby-county-2017-18-say-youll-be-there/
http://priceoffootball.com/derby-county-respectable/

It's worth reading these through not just for the stadium lease but the company structure shenanigans, the amortisation tweak... also:

https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-retai

Jacob Butterfield, Nick Blackman and Bradley Johnson are in the list of first-team squad players under contract.

The trio signed 12-month extensions to their contracts earlier this season on vastly reduced terms compared to what they were on in the previous years, DerbyshireLive understands.

The deals were done by the club, it is believed, to try to protect the value of the players.

It is highly likely Blackman and Butterfield will be released next month and will not return to the club for pre-season. Neither player featured for Derby this season.


https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/32605-retained-list/page/7/#comments
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Rooney to derby on 10:33 - Aug 6 with 5435 viewsNorthernr

Yes apparently the league rule is if you have a player coach, 50% of his wage counts towards FFP and 50% doesn't.

I thought it was only youth coaches who were exempt. Does this mean that managers salaries don't count? Assistant managers?
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Rooney to derby on 10:38 - Aug 6 with 5407 viewsaston_hoop

The staff at bubbles spa opposite Derby station are delighted so I'm told!

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Rooney to derby on 10:40 - Aug 6 with 5393 viewsDejR_vu

FFP is a total joke. If the clubs had any minerals they’d collectively go for the FL. There’s going to be a break-away.
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Rooney to derby on 10:44 - Aug 6 with 5373 viewsNorthernr

Rooney to derby on 10:40 - Aug 6 by DejR_vu

FFP is a total joke. If the clubs had any minerals they’d collectively go for the FL. There’s going to be a break-away.
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Well I don't really see what's to stop us making Cameron and Rangel player coaches, and having 50% of their wage not counted.

Or anybody for that matter. Amos was helping the coaches set up the drill last week, take 50% of his wage off.

Derby are undermining the rules to the point where there's no point in having them, which maybe is exactly what they're going for.
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Rooney to derby on 10:48 - Aug 6 with 5347 viewsrsonist

Rooney to derby on 10:33 - Aug 6 by Northernr

Yes apparently the league rule is if you have a player coach, 50% of his wage counts towards FFP and 50% doesn't.

I thought it was only youth coaches who were exempt. Does this mean that managers salaries don't count? Assistant managers?


Some talk this only applies to L1 & L2 clubs.

Not a problem though....

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Rooney to derby on 10:54 - Aug 6 with 5319 viewsKonk

Rooney to derby on 10:44 - Aug 6 by Northernr

Well I don't really see what's to stop us making Cameron and Rangel player coaches, and having 50% of their wage not counted.

Or anybody for that matter. Amos was helping the coaches set up the drill last week, take 50% of his wage off.

Derby are undermining the rules to the point where there's no point in having them, which maybe is exactly what they're going for.


I want to see everyone doing this.

Mitrovic - Bib distributor
Cairney - cone layer-outer
Johansen - putting the nets up
Bryan - Throw-in specialist etc

Fair play to Derby for absolutely taking the pi ss. Mel Morrison is the Championship’s Captain Ahab. A man obsessed.

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Rooney to derby on 11:16 - Aug 6 with 5248 viewsDejR_vu

We’ll end up being the club who were hit with a world record fine that afflicts us for 10 years, who did everything to then comply, whilst others took the p1ss and got away with it.

The whole thing has been farcical from the start, concocted and implemented by clowns. The entire football industry is populated by complete idiots. In any other industry, where there is any level of accountability, they wouldn’t last five minutes.

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Rooney to derby on 11:28 - Aug 6 with 5212 viewsDavieQPR

They think they are being so clever but it will come back to haunt them.
By the way what does Collen see in multi millionaire Wayne Rooney?
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Rooney to derby on 12:07 - Aug 6 with 5146 viewsGetMeRangers

This can be only a ruse to get him in as a player. I can't imagine anyone putting his name forward as someone who has the potential to be a first team coach. Or even for the U11s. Far too many other obvious candidates if you were looking to get a rookie coach, with potential, who could also be a play
Just relieved it isn't QPR for a change and Villa, Forest and Derby all to keen to step up to challenge for badly managed clubs
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Rooney to derby on 12:14 - Aug 6 with 5103 viewsstevec

Rooney to derby on 12:07 - Aug 6 by GetMeRangers

This can be only a ruse to get him in as a player. I can't imagine anyone putting his name forward as someone who has the potential to be a first team coach. Or even for the U11s. Far too many other obvious candidates if you were looking to get a rookie coach, with potential, who could also be a play
Just relieved it isn't QPR for a change and Villa, Forest and Derby all to keen to step up to challenge for badly managed clubs


To be fair, the fact they're finding ways to work round the rules suggests they are considerably better managed than we were.

Villa have already circumnavigated around the issue by getting themselves promoted, Derby seem to be finding new ingenious ways to circumnavigate whether promoted or not.
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Rooney to derby on 12:58 - Aug 6 with 4979 viewsGetMeRangers

Rooney to derby on 12:14 - Aug 6 by stevec

To be fair, the fact they're finding ways to work round the rules suggests they are considerably better managed than we were.

Villa have already circumnavigated around the issue by getting themselves promoted, Derby seem to be finding new ingenious ways to circumnavigate whether promoted or not.


I may be wrong but thought the rules we feel foul of lasted one season before being changed
But in all honesty, i would be aghast if we were trying to get around the rules, as I am far happier that the club is being run more sensibly now, with the caveat that it doesn't go aa badly wrong as the 'fritting away' years. Would be far happier seeing the lub sustainable even if that comes with rare or no appearances in the premier. That doesn't sound very ambitious, given our recent history, it is quite a tall order IMO
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Rooney to derby on 13:12 - Aug 6 with 4904 viewsAntti_Heinola

Rooney to derby on 11:28 - Aug 6 by DavieQPR

They think they are being so clever but it will come back to haunt them.
By the way what does Collen see in multi millionaire Wayne Rooney?


What does Rooney see in the attractive Colleen?
Lovely line from Aherne, but the truth is it works both ways.

Bare bones.

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