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Dicking about at the back 22:30 - Nov 5 with 3093 viewsBklynRanger

I thought part of our indian summer was down to not doing that anymore? So why the fcuk are we doing it?!

We're not sucking them in and beating their press with a cheeky killer ball. We're scaring the shit out of ourselves and our already terrified keeper, running around like penguins on ice hoping to finally get it out to Jimmy so he can wallop it up the line to nobody.

WHY????
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Dicking about at the back on 23:15 - Nov 5 with 2891 viewsHunterhoop

“Game Model”.

We’ve had a few defeats so…
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Dicking about at the back on 23:22 - Nov 5 with 2837 viewsBklynRanger

Dicking about at the back on 23:15 - Nov 5 by Hunterhoop

“Game Model”.

We’ve had a few defeats so…


Yeah that's the thing - more learned football-thinkers than I had suggested that maybe Julie pushed to ditch the game model after Coventry. Or at least parts of it, including the dicking about at the back bit.

So was it only ever a temporary pause? Have the model folk been advocating to bring it back? Did they all just forget and revert to type?

Mental.
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Dicking about at the back on 23:23 - Nov 5 with 2830 viewsMick_S

Please - just stop it. I’m sure most of us don’t want the hoof too often, but for goodness sake pick and choose the moments when it doesn’t leave us asking for it.

Surely, it cant be that hard to work out?

Did I ever mention that I was in Minder?

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Dicking about at the back on 00:15 - Nov 6 with 2690 viewsstevec

The annoying thing was very early on Southampton looked vulnerable to the ball over the top and we didn’t try it again until Burrells goal.

Unfortunately when you’ve only got a two man midfield and only one of them could be mildly called an enforcer, then you’re almost duty bound to try and pass your way out rather than get the ball in the opposition half and win second balls.

We’ve got to stop giving away so many goals, maybe put three ball winners in the centre and break up the three midget men set up that is too easy to play against.
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Dicking about at the back on 00:31 - Nov 6 with 2608 viewsmart_Goblin

Dicking about at the back on 23:23 - Nov 5 by Mick_S

Please - just stop it. I’m sure most of us don’t want the hoof too often, but for goodness sake pick and choose the moments when it doesn’t leave us asking for it.

Surely, it cant be that hard to work out?


Completely agree

On Saturday , the lad behind me said something to his mate that was totally spot on.
It followed the 4th or 5th attempt at us taking a quick free kick that finished up with us either back at Nardi or pressed into one of our own corners .
The lad said “you take a quick free kick to put pressure on the opposition, but we are the only team I’ve ever seen that’s takes a quick free kick that finishes with us putting pressure on ourselves”.

Sums us up completely.
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Dicking about at the back on 00:36 - Nov 6 with 2586 viewsted_hendrix

At the OP, I don't know why we are doing It but until we stop conceding goals and collapsing like ballerinas on the pitch erm well I don't know.

It's all very frustrating, I was asking in an earlier thread who the hell are training/coaching our players?

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Dicking about at the back on 09:35 - Nov 6 with 2268 viewsBklynRanger

Dicking about at the back on 00:36 - Nov 6 by ted_hendrix

At the OP, I don't know why we are doing It but until we stop conceding goals and collapsing like ballerinas on the pitch erm well I don't know.

It's all very frustrating, I was asking in an earlier thread who the hell are training/coaching our players?


One must agree Hendrix.

And I thought Steve Bould doing the defensive coach had to lead to measureable, demonstrable, quantifiable improvements - but we're still gash.
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Dicking about at the back on 10:15 - Nov 6 with 2188 viewsFDC

Dicking about at the back on 23:22 - Nov 5 by BklynRanger

Yeah that's the thing - more learned football-thinkers than I had suggested that maybe Julie pushed to ditch the game model after Coventry. Or at least parts of it, including the dicking about at the back bit.

So was it only ever a temporary pause? Have the model folk been advocating to bring it back? Did they all just forget and revert to type?

Mental.


My sauces tell me that whilst the tides ebb and flow, at the most recent gathering of the "To Dick About Or Not Dick About" committee, "Dick About" had the numbers over the "Stop Dicking About" faction.
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Dicking about at the back on 10:15 - Nov 6 with 2187 viewsFDC

Dicking about at the back on 09:35 - Nov 6 by BklynRanger

One must agree Hendrix.

And I thought Steve Bould doing the defensive coach had to lead to measureable, demonstrable, quantifiable improvements - but we're still gash.


My assumption at this point is that Bould is doing defensive coaching over WebEx.
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Dicking about at the back on 10:19 - Nov 6 with 2154 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Here he is in his own words

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Dicking about at the back on 10:22 - Nov 6 with 2132 viewsBklynRanger

Dicking about at the back on 10:15 - Nov 6 by FDC

My sauces tell me that whilst the tides ebb and flow, at the most recent gathering of the "To Dick About Or Not Dick About" committee, "Dick About" had the numbers over the "Stop Dicking About" faction.
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Julian needs to storm the Bastille! Again.
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Dicking about at the back on 10:28 - Nov 6 with 2085 viewsgazza1

I do not particularly like it but there are massive benefits further up the field.....likewise booting the ball up field from our box generally comes straight back towards where it came from which is not what you want.

It needs to be done at the right times.
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Dicking about at the back on 10:31 - Nov 6 with 2076 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Dicking about at the back on 10:28 - Nov 6 by gazza1

I do not particularly like it but there are massive benefits further up the field.....likewise booting the ball up field from our box generally comes straight back towards where it came from which is not what you want.

It needs to be done at the right times.


'It needs to be done at the right times'

Before that you need to hold and give. You can be slow or fast, but you must get to the line.
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Dicking about at the back on 10:57 - Nov 6 with 1996 viewsBklynRanger

Dicking about at the back on 10:28 - Nov 6 by gazza1

I do not particularly like it but there are massive benefits further up the field.....likewise booting the ball up field from our box generally comes straight back towards where it came from which is not what you want.

It needs to be done at the right times.


Perfectly true Gazza, but it's not only the right times in the game - I think it's also looking at how the season's going and focusing on getting the basics right before they start elaborating. Especially at the back.

Exposing players who are on a bad collective run to what Julien might call excessive 'dannnnger' can't be a good thing.
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Dicking about at the back on 13:25 - Nov 6 with 1810 viewsFDC

Dicking about at the back on 10:22 - Nov 6 by BklynRanger

Julian needs to storm the Bastille! Again.


Now there's a great image [paging D Paddox]
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Dicking about at the back on 13:27 - Nov 6 with 1795 viewsNorthernr

I get the theory behind it, but you have to have players capable of doing it.

We do not have the defenders or the goalkeeper to do it. Simple as that.
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Dicking about at the back on 13:28 - Nov 6 with 1792 viewsLogman

I can't watch it, when it happens. It's more than embarrassing. I literally have to turn away or look at my phone.
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Dicking about at the back on 13:29 - Nov 6 with 1779 viewsNorthernr

Dicking about at the back on 13:28 - Nov 6 by Logman

I can't watch it, when it happens. It's more than embarrassing. I literally have to turn away or look at my phone.


Same.
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Dicking about at the back on 13:29 - Nov 6 with 1778 viewsFDC

Dicking about at the back on 10:28 - Nov 6 by gazza1

I do not particularly like it but there are massive benefits further up the field.....likewise booting the ball up field from our box generally comes straight back towards where it came from which is not what you want.

It needs to be done at the right times.


But surely inviting a press which you are not able to play around results in booting it up the field under self-inflicted pressure anyway.
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Dicking about at the back on 13:30 - Nov 6 with 1768 viewsNorthernr

Dicking about at the back on 13:29 - Nov 6 by FDC

But surely inviting a press which you are not able to play around results in booting it up the field under self-inflicted pressure anyway.


Which is what happens to us 99 times out of 100.
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Dicking about at the back on 13:31 - Nov 6 with 1757 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Dicking about at the back on 13:27 - Nov 6 by Northernr

I get the theory behind it, but you have to have players capable of doing it.

We do not have the defenders or the goalkeeper to do it. Simple as that.


Our good run coincided with ditching this tactic and our subsequent bad run coincides with reverting back to it.
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Dicking about at the back on 14:25 - Nov 6 with 1615 viewsMick_S

Dicking about at the back on 13:27 - Nov 6 by Northernr

I get the theory behind it, but you have to have players capable of doing it.

We do not have the defenders or the goalkeeper to do it. Simple as that.


Most clubs don’t. We don’t. The thickness of it makes my tits’ itch. Just stop it please, it’s doing us in.

Did I ever mention that I was in Minder?

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Dicking about at the back on 14:33 - Nov 6 with 1589 viewsuwontbegrinningsoon

I have a cunning plan. Train to pass the ball to a footballer who is wearing the same strip as the passer.
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Dicking about at the back on 15:16 - Nov 6 with 1455 viewsPlanetHonneywood

Dicking about at the back on 14:33 - Nov 6 by uwontbegrinningsoon

I have a cunning plan. Train to pass the ball to a footballer who is wearing the same strip as the passer.


Either the rest of the team wear orange or, Nardi wears B&W hoops. Just don't think the Football League would allow us to get away with that.

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Dicking about at the back on 15:33 - Nov 6 with 1411 viewsQPROslo

We lived very dangerously early on doing that putting Nardi under pressure from goal kicks, but played out from the back very well when Madsen and to a lesser degree Chair and Varane got involved.
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