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The problem is that Cooze was left in a position where people with their own agendas could stir things up. That was poor judgement on behalf of the Trust board.
Just about every post you have made in the last week has attacked the trust and the trust chair in particular. The timing like a lot of other things at the moment is interesting.
You are entitled to your views however they appear to be the views of someone with an unsubtle agenda.
It’s therefore not surprising that people on this forum think that you are “on the payroll”
If you are “on the payroll”you are not the most important one as if the board wanted a tame poster they would want someone with more intellect than you possess. Having someone posting the anti Trust rubbish you post “on the payroll” would be counter productive for them.
However on reflection your in the face drivel could be a stalking horse that more intelligent agents can follow. If you are “on the payroll” you are a bottom feeder who is fed only scraps to massage your huge ego and make you feel important.
My conclusion is that you are a wannabe “Anus” someone that craves attention and wants to be a somebody who is in all reality a nobody. Just any other fan.
I hope that off this message board you are a more pleasant person, however I doubt it. Time to grow up.
By the way i’m Not on the trust payroll. I’m someone that started watching the club when our name was Swansea Town and has had a gutsful of the divisive bile you spew out.
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Should THE TRUSTS Board of Directors have personal financial gain from the club? on 01:27 - Feb 17 with 1365 views
Should THE TRUSTS Board of Directors have personal financial gain from the club? on 01:02 - Feb 17 by dobjack2
No.
The problem is that Cooze was left in a position where people with their own agendas could stir things up. That was poor judgement on behalf of the Trust board.
Just about every post you have made in the last week has attacked the trust and the trust chair in particular. The timing like a lot of other things at the moment is interesting.
You are entitled to your views however they appear to be the views of someone with an unsubtle agenda.
It’s therefore not surprising that people on this forum think that you are “on the payroll”
If you are “on the payroll”you are not the most important one as if the board wanted a tame poster they would want someone with more intellect than you possess. Having someone posting the anti Trust rubbish you post “on the payroll” would be counter productive for them.
However on reflection your in the face drivel could be a stalking horse that more intelligent agents can follow. If you are “on the payroll” you are a bottom feeder who is fed only scraps to massage your huge ego and make you feel important.
My conclusion is that you are a wannabe “Anus” someone that craves attention and wants to be a somebody who is in all reality a nobody. Just any other fan.
I hope that off this message board you are a more pleasant person, however I doubt it. Time to grow up.
By the way i’m Not on the trust payroll. I’m someone that started watching the club when our name was Swansea Town and has had a gutsful of the divisive bile you spew out.
Another attack? You mean on me?
Because from where I'm looking you're not allowed to think or say differently or.you'll get rounded up and slaughtered.
Just like this thread from 4 years ago.
On the payroll or Anus. Just about sums up your ignorance.
The Trust can do no wrong, Just as Jenkins could do on wrong in the past.
You're all out of time....the past was yours but the future's mine.
Should THE TRUSTS Board of Directors have personal financial gain from the club? on 01:02 - Feb 17 by dobjack2
No.
The problem is that Cooze was left in a position where people with their own agendas could stir things up. That was poor judgement on behalf of the Trust board.
Just about every post you have made in the last week has attacked the trust and the trust chair in particular. The timing like a lot of other things at the moment is interesting.
You are entitled to your views however they appear to be the views of someone with an unsubtle agenda.
It’s therefore not surprising that people on this forum think that you are “on the payroll”
If you are “on the payroll”you are not the most important one as if the board wanted a tame poster they would want someone with more intellect than you possess. Having someone posting the anti Trust rubbish you post “on the payroll” would be counter productive for them.
However on reflection your in the face drivel could be a stalking horse that more intelligent agents can follow. If you are “on the payroll” you are a bottom feeder who is fed only scraps to massage your huge ego and make you feel important.
My conclusion is that you are a wannabe “Anus” someone that craves attention and wants to be a somebody who is in all reality a nobody. Just any other fan.
I hope that off this message board you are a more pleasant person, however I doubt it. Time to grow up.
By the way i’m Not on the trust payroll. I’m someone that started watching the club when our name was Swansea Town and has had a gutsful of the divisive bile you spew out.
Lying isn’t really “poor judgement” though is it.
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Should THE TRUSTS Board of Directors have personal financial gain from the club? on 08:38 - Feb 17 with 1274 views
Huw Cooze wasn't "left" in any position. He volunteered for it.
Not sure who it was, but someone phrased it beautifully the other day. He was "utterly unprepared for the war he didn't know he was fighting". He let himself get too close, and took his eye off the ball.
Under no circumstances should anyone with what amounted to an oversight position on behalf of the fans have also been allowed to be in a business arrangement with the club. Was obvious then, even more so given the events that followed.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
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Should THE TRUSTS Board of Directors have personal financial gain from the club? on 09:43 - Feb 17 with 1178 views
Should THE TRUSTS Board of Directors have personal financial gain from the club? on 01:02 - Feb 17 by dobjack2
No.
The problem is that Cooze was left in a position where people with their own agendas could stir things up. That was poor judgement on behalf of the Trust board.
Just about every post you have made in the last week has attacked the trust and the trust chair in particular. The timing like a lot of other things at the moment is interesting.
You are entitled to your views however they appear to be the views of someone with an unsubtle agenda.
It’s therefore not surprising that people on this forum think that you are “on the payroll”
If you are “on the payroll”you are not the most important one as if the board wanted a tame poster they would want someone with more intellect than you possess. Having someone posting the anti Trust rubbish you post “on the payroll” would be counter productive for them.
However on reflection your in the face drivel could be a stalking horse that more intelligent agents can follow. If you are “on the payroll” you are a bottom feeder who is fed only scraps to massage your huge ego and make you feel important.
My conclusion is that you are a wannabe “Anus” someone that craves attention and wants to be a somebody who is in all reality a nobody. Just any other fan.
I hope that off this message board you are a more pleasant person, however I doubt it. Time to grow up.
By the way i’m Not on the trust payroll. I’m someone that started watching the club when our name was Swansea Town and has had a gutsful of the divisive bile you spew out.
I know this isn't time for jokes, but the only 'bottom feeder' on here is Eddie/DGT whatever moniker it goes by.
Should THE TRUSTS Board of Directors have personal financial gain from the club? on 08:38 - Feb 17 by dobjack2
Wrong again. They can do wrong and i’ve Called them out for being wrong.
Well you’ve pretty much admitted that someone is feeding you info so not necessarily on the payroll, just a stooge then.
I am not wrong.
I'm just not very well thought of on here.
I wasn't when I was trying to beg the Trust to be a bigger and better animal back then and I'm not now when I've got a different opinion to the vocal few.
I'm not getting any club info, I've not said that at all. I've spoken to Ux about it who basically told me Phil Sumbler had said to him he was reliably informed I was.
I can't keep repeating myself and I'm also not that desperate as to care whether fans like you and the usual suspects believe me or not. There's no one that gets abused, followed around, taunted, has lies made about them or attracts the hypocrites as much as me.
This thread was 1 and a half years before the sale of the Club.
This thread was about exposing a huge weakness in the Trust's strategy.
There were plenty of other threads when I exposed Martin Morgan and his Company JaxxBay and Leigh Dineen's vending company when they were invoicing the Club for huge sums of money.
Each time the Trust and this site, run and owned by the Chairman Phil Sumbler and ably backed up by his bottom feeders, shut down this debate.
And in their own inimitable way. Like you are doing now basically... I'm a vile human being, thank you for that.
Each and everyone one of what you now all call the sell out's and hate with a passion I exposed as being in it for themselves.
But I'm the bad guy...
And why? Because the Trust failed in its duty of protecting the football club and didn't listen to my pleading to do something about it??!
And I'm supposed to have respect for this organisation and the way it uses and abuses Planet Swans for its own gain?
I did then what I'm doing now. I'm thinking about the future. The Trust got us into this mess with it's passive virtual non existence and cosiness to the old Board.
But like then I don't think they're capable of getting it right. So for me the future lies in a Co-existence with the new Owners.
If that opinion makes me vile or is worthy of threads being made up about me full of lies or fans following my every move to slander, taunt and bully me then fine.
I've lost a lot of love for SCFC lately and it's not the Club that's done that, and I'll say this as someone that desperately didn't want the club in foreign hands, it's the fans who seem incapable of opening their eyes and seeing things as a whole.
And this website gives them the ammunition and power to do just that.
You're all out of time....the past was yours but the future's mine.
Should THE TRUSTS Board of Directors have personal financial gain from the club? on 10:09 - Feb 17 by _
I am not wrong.
I'm just not very well thought of on here.
I wasn't when I was trying to beg the Trust to be a bigger and better animal back then and I'm not now when I've got a different opinion to the vocal few.
I'm not getting any club info, I've not said that at all. I've spoken to Ux about it who basically told me Phil Sumbler had said to him he was reliably informed I was.
I can't keep repeating myself and I'm also not that desperate as to care whether fans like you and the usual suspects believe me or not. There's no one that gets abused, followed around, taunted, has lies made about them or attracts the hypocrites as much as me.
This thread was 1 and a half years before the sale of the Club.
This thread was about exposing a huge weakness in the Trust's strategy.
There were plenty of other threads when I exposed Martin Morgan and his Company JaxxBay and Leigh Dineen's vending company when they were invoicing the Club for huge sums of money.
Each time the Trust and this site, run and owned by the Chairman Phil Sumbler and ably backed up by his bottom feeders, shut down this debate.
And in their own inimitable way. Like you are doing now basically... I'm a vile human being, thank you for that.
Each and everyone one of what you now all call the sell out's and hate with a passion I exposed as being in it for themselves.
But I'm the bad guy...
And why? Because the Trust failed in its duty of protecting the football club and didn't listen to my pleading to do something about it??!
And I'm supposed to have respect for this organisation and the way it uses and abuses Planet Swans for its own gain?
I did then what I'm doing now. I'm thinking about the future. The Trust got us into this mess with it's passive virtual non existence and cosiness to the old Board.
But like then I don't think they're capable of getting it right. So for me the future lies in a Co-existence with the new Owners.
If that opinion makes me vile or is worthy of threads being made up about me full of lies or fans following my every move to slander, taunt and bully me then fine.
I've lost a lot of love for SCFC lately and it's not the Club that's done that, and I'll say this as someone that desperately didn't want the club in foreign hands, it's the fans who seem incapable of opening their eyes and seeing things as a whole.
And this website gives them the ammunition and power to do just that.
You've again misrepresented me there Chris. At no time have I said or even hinted Phil has told me you are getting info from the club.
Should THE TRUSTS Board of Directors have personal financial gain from the club? on 10:09 - Feb 17 by _
I am not wrong.
I'm just not very well thought of on here.
I wasn't when I was trying to beg the Trust to be a bigger and better animal back then and I'm not now when I've got a different opinion to the vocal few.
I'm not getting any club info, I've not said that at all. I've spoken to Ux about it who basically told me Phil Sumbler had said to him he was reliably informed I was.
I can't keep repeating myself and I'm also not that desperate as to care whether fans like you and the usual suspects believe me or not. There's no one that gets abused, followed around, taunted, has lies made about them or attracts the hypocrites as much as me.
This thread was 1 and a half years before the sale of the Club.
This thread was about exposing a huge weakness in the Trust's strategy.
There were plenty of other threads when I exposed Martin Morgan and his Company JaxxBay and Leigh Dineen's vending company when they were invoicing the Club for huge sums of money.
Each time the Trust and this site, run and owned by the Chairman Phil Sumbler and ably backed up by his bottom feeders, shut down this debate.
And in their own inimitable way. Like you are doing now basically... I'm a vile human being, thank you for that.
Each and everyone one of what you now all call the sell out's and hate with a passion I exposed as being in it for themselves.
But I'm the bad guy...
And why? Because the Trust failed in its duty of protecting the football club and didn't listen to my pleading to do something about it??!
And I'm supposed to have respect for this organisation and the way it uses and abuses Planet Swans for its own gain?
I did then what I'm doing now. I'm thinking about the future. The Trust got us into this mess with it's passive virtual non existence and cosiness to the old Board.
But like then I don't think they're capable of getting it right. So for me the future lies in a Co-existence with the new Owners.
If that opinion makes me vile or is worthy of threads being made up about me full of lies or fans following my every move to slander, taunt and bully me then fine.
I've lost a lot of love for SCFC lately and it's not the Club that's done that, and I'll say this as someone that desperately didn't want the club in foreign hands, it's the fans who seem incapable of opening their eyes and seeing things as a whole.
And this website gives them the ammunition and power to do just that.
Didn’t call you a vile human being.
You have an aggressive way of posting on this board, as I’ve said to you before that makes you marmite and eventually leads to spats.
You have a very clear and unsubtle anti trust agenda, again blaming them for the actions of others. Dr winston sums up the share sale and the Trust board mistakes in his post above. The only thing that I would add is that the Trust board should have realised that they were in a war after the failed share sale.
Haven’t said that you are on the payroll, lot of if’s in what I posted, hiwever you clearly have a source providing you with snippets of information, not necessarily from within the club.
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Should THE TRUSTS Board of Directors have personal financial gain from the club? on 15:03 - Feb 17 with 925 views
Should THE TRUSTS Board of Directors have personal financial gain from the club? on 20:49 - Dec 10 by monmouth
Personally I think that the Trust and the club must be clearly differentiated and that trust officials must be 'whiter than white' in substance (which I'm sure they are) and in form (which means no paid work that could ever be used to apply pressure in any future circumstance). That is just good governance in my view. The Trust officials are the equivalent of the fans 'auditors' in my mind which means they must all be visibly independent.
Should THE TRUSTS Board of Directors have personal financial gain from the club? on 08:49 - Feb 17 by Dr_Winston
Huw Cooze wasn't "left" in any position. He volunteered for it.
Not sure who it was, but someone phrased it beautifully the other day. He was "utterly unprepared for the war he didn't know he was fighting". He let himself get too close, and took his eye off the ball.
Under no circumstances should anyone with what amounted to an oversight position on behalf of the fans have also been allowed to be in a business arrangement with the club. Was obvious then, even more so given the events that followed.
Good post
However serious concern about Huw C’s long term friendship with and obvious closeness and support for the sellouts position (supported by his own words and press statement) and his personal conflict of interests, was pointed out at the time of the first attempted sale, by many at the Trust meeting at that time, and we were promised action.
The need for action to properly protect the Trust was evident, even despite the fact that at this time the Trust were concealing the additional massively relevant fact, that (despite the false public claims from the then Trust Vice Chair that he was totally unpaid) Huw C was in fact being well paid ( in addition to any contractual benefits he may or may not have been receiving).
The need to be on our metal was plain but the person with this long term conflicted interest and friendship with the sellouts who openly expressed sympathy with the sellouts and made press release on behalf of the Trust referring to the sellouts profiteering as an investment in the club, was allowed to continue. Even though (in addition to his conflict of interests and long term friendships with the sellouts) it was plain from his stunted and confused answers at that meeting that he was totally unaware of even the most basic issues in relation to our rights during and potential impact of any sale.
The action we were promised to address these serious concerns?
This most unsuitable captain was left to guard the gate and later portrayed as some sort of let down friend when he understandably totally failed in this duty. Fair to say it was not him that denied he was paid (although he did not correct this lie), nor just him that allowed himself to inappropriately continue in this role, for which for all the above reasons he was totally unsuited, most especially at such a crucial time.
Of course we did get the rules that were supposed to address the accountability and transparency that we demanded. However spectacularly the first disciplinary offence listed actually reduced transparency, by making it a disciplinary offence for any Trust official to publicly disagree with any Trust policy agreed by the majority of the Board.
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