| If... 15:59 - Jun 16 with 4370 views | Glossolalia |
How are the group positions worked out if two teams finish on the same points?
Head-to-head or goal difference?
There's a distinct chance Wales and Slovakia could both finish on 3 points... |  | | |  |
| If... on 16:04 - Jun 16 with 3279 views | Swansea93 |
If Wales and Slovakia finish on 3pts I think Wales go through as we beat them. |  |
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| If... on 16:07 - Jun 16 with 3261 views | Glossolalia |
| If... on 16:04 - Jun 16 by Swansea93 |
If Wales and Slovakia finish on 3pts I think Wales go through as we beat them. |
That's good then. I trust Wales to get something against the Russians, but if we do finish on 3 points we have a good chance of going through. | | | |
| If... on 16:11 - Jun 16 with 3234 views | magicdaps10 |
If goal difference is the same it goes onto goals scored i believe. If it is the same then it goes on to head to head. |  |
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| If... on 16:12 - Jun 16 with 3227 views | oldcob |
| If... on 16:07 - Jun 16 by Glossolalia |
That's good then. I trust Wales to get something against the Russians, but if we do finish on 3 points we have a good chance of going through. |
I though it only went to the head to head if the goal difference was the same too. | | | |
| If... on 16:13 - Jun 16 with 3225 views | Glossolalia |
In that case, if we do lose to Russia we want Slovak to lose heavier to Ingerlund. | | | |
| If... on 16:18 - Jun 16 with 3197 views | dailew |
| If... on 16:11 - Jun 16 by magicdaps10 |
If goal difference is the same it goes onto goals scored i believe. If it is the same then it goes on to head to head. |
No ,head to head first. |  |
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| If... on 16:32 - Jun 16 with 3154 views | Griffting |
so if we loose to Russia and England beat Slovakia by the same amount we'll finish third? Although to be honest, if we cannot at least draw with Russia we don't really deserve to go through.
Worst case scenario would be England and Slovakia draw and us lose to Russia and we'd come fourth. |  | | |
| If... on 16:34 - Jun 16 with 3144 views | londonlisa2001 |
| If... on 16:11 - Jun 16 by magicdaps10 |
If goal difference is the same it goes onto goals scored i believe. If it is the same then it goes on to head to head. |
Head to head first. | | | |
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| If... on 16:37 - Jun 16 with 3130 views | sherpajacob |
| If... on 16:04 - Jun 16 by Swansea93 |
If Wales and Slovakia finish on 3pts I think Wales go through as we beat them. |
If we finish on 3 points then Russia will.be on 4. So a best third place is our only chance.
Not sure if 3 will be enough |  |
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| If... on 16:58 - Jun 16 with 3095 views | JackFish |
| If... on 16:32 - Jun 16 by Griffting |
so if we loose to Russia and England beat Slovakia by the same amount we'll finish third? Although to be honest, if we cannot at least draw with Russia we don't really deserve to go through.
Worst case scenario would be England and Slovakia draw and us lose to Russia and we'd come fourth. |
Yeah, we could go through as one of the best third places teams with 3 pts & -1 but it would be very tight. |  | | |
| If... on 17:21 - Jun 16 with 3065 views | Borojack |
| If... on 16:58 - Jun 16 by JackFish |
Yeah, we could go through as one of the best third places teams with 3 pts & -1 but it would be very tight. |
If Wales do finish 3rd it then goes on
Points
GD
Goals scored
Fair play
And finally Fifa ranking. |  |
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| If... on 17:33 - Jun 16 with 3032 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
OK I see 3 very different answers so far.
I'd put the total over/under at 4.5 for the thread. |  |
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| If... on 17:36 - Jun 16 with 3021 views | dailew |
| If... on 17:33 - Jun 16 by Tummer_from_Texas |
OK I see 3 very different answers so far.
I'd put the total over/under at 4.5 for the thread. |
Borojack's post doesn't contradict anything.
It's what happens IF we finish third. Not if we finish on 3 pts. | |
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| If... on 17:38 - Jun 16 with 3015 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
| If... on 17:36 - Jun 16 by dailew |
Borojack's post doesn't contradict anything.
It's what happens IF we finish third. Not if we finish on 3 pts. |
Gotcha.
My illiteracy, apologisms. | |
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| If... on 17:45 - Jun 16 with 3006 views | Borojack |
Yes basically we need all the top sides to batter the lower ranked sides.
Just in case we do finish 3rd.
Its a crazy qualifying system though playing 36 games to eliminate just 8 sides. | |
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| If... on 18:02 - Jun 16 with 2964 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
| If... on 17:45 - Jun 16 by Borojack |
Yes basically we need all the top sides to batter the lower ranked sides.
Just in case we do finish 3rd.
Its a crazy qualifying system though playing 36 games to eliminate just 8 sides. |
So as mentioned in another thread, NIR/UKR needs to stay just as it is. | |
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| If... on 18:12 - Jun 16 with 2945 views | Borojack |
| If... on 18:02 - Jun 16 by Tummer_from_Texas |
So as mentioned in another thread, NIR/UKR needs to stay just as it is. |
Yes a draw would be ideal but failing that a NI win as they play Germany last game.
Then a nice big win for Germany. | |
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| If... on 19:09 - Jun 16 with 2878 views | monmouth |
That second NI goal could end up f***ing us good and proper. Lets hope Germany lose to Poland and have something to play for. |  |
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| If... on 19:20 - Jun 16 with 2845 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
| If... on 19:09 - Jun 16 by monmouth |
That second NI goal could end up f***ing us good and proper. Lets hope Germany lose to Poland and have something to play for. |
Indeed, and Fabianski is in the goal tonight.
If Poland does manage to pull off the upset somehow, an Ireland win over Germany would then be just as good as the other way around. | |
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| If... on 19:21 - Jun 16 with 2843 views | JackFish |
| If... on 19:20 - Jun 16 by Tummer_from_Texas |
Indeed, and Fabianski is in the goal tonight.
If Poland does manage to pull off the upset somehow, an Ireland win over Germany would then be just as good as the other way around. |
But then a draw would put them both on 4 and that's no good! Working out these permutations over the next few days is going to be a nightmare. | | | |
| If... on 19:36 - Jun 16 with 2817 views | Phaedrus |
| If... on 16:11 - Jun 16 by magicdaps10 |
If goal difference is the same it goes onto goals scored i believe. If it is the same then it goes on to head to head. |
Fair play I have never met anyone so on first name terms with being wrong as you. |  |
| And what is good Phaedrus, and what is not good. Need we ask anyone to tell us these things? |
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| If... on 19:39 - Jun 16 with 2804 views | sherpajacob |
if we finish 3rd, what works against us is that 4 of the other groups play their last games after us.
could end up with a west Germany v Austria 1982 scenario to send us out. | |
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| If... on 19:43 - Jun 16 with 2796 views | Borojack |
| If... on 19:09 - Jun 16 by monmouth |
That second NI goal could end up f***ing us good and proper. Lets hope Germany lose to Poland and have something to play for. |
If we are relying on the world Champions losing then we are really fooked.
They wiĺl want to take some momentum into the knockout stages so cant see them taking it too easy against the Irish. | |
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| If... on 20:27 - Jun 16 with 2750 views | monmouth |
| If... on 19:43 - Jun 16 by Borojack |
If we are relying on the world Champions losing then we are really fooked.
They wiĺl want to take some momentum into the knockout stages so cant see them taking it too easy against the Irish. |
Not losing, but wrecking the NI goal difference. If, God forbid we lose to Russia by a goal, NI need to lose by two nil. | |
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