| Break up of the UK 19:32 - Mar 27 with 3663 views | trampie |
The days of the UK might be numbered, in the short to medium term Scotland might get independence, N.Ireland might unite with the Republic of Ireland, leaving just England and Wales, the English have flooded Wales making Welsh independence a long shot at this point in time but in the long term English white flighters might not want anything to do with rule from their old homeland as other non indigenous groups gain more influence, its been suggested overseas immigration in some cases is sometimes an issue resulting in English white flight from large cities, concerns about overseas immigration was said to have played a large part in the Brexit vote, Welsh independence might be gained in time through English immigrants and not just Welsh nationalists. [Post edited 27 Mar 2017 19:38]
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| Break up of the UK on 12:33 - Mar 28 with 708 views | WarwickHunt |
| Break up of the UK on 07:28 - Mar 28 by Dr_Winston |
You have to generate electricity Tramps. You can't mine it. |
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| Break up of the UK on 13:32 - Mar 28 with 679 views | blueytheblue |
| Break up of the UK on 12:30 - Mar 28 by sherpajacob |
47% incidentally the same percentage, sinn Fein under de valera won in the 1918 general election, which ultimately led to Irish independence.
History whilst not always repeating itself, frequently rhymes.
Ireland have had their ups and downs, as all.nations do. However,
The number of Eire citizens that would now choose to return to the UK I would hazard is now so low they would be outnumbered by the crowd at a cardiff city FA cup tie. |
I'm sure they don't want to return.
Happy to accept the UK contribution to the EU bailouts they've had though... |  |
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| Break up of the UK on 15:26 - Mar 28 with 644 views | Highjack |
| Break up of the UK on 09:27 - Mar 28 by Cooperman |
The Welsh economy is not going to survive on selling water and energy generated through renewable sources. |
We already lead the worlds coracle manufacturing industry. |  |
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| Break up of the UK on 15:32 - Mar 28 with 642 views | blueytheblue |
| Break up of the UK on 15:26 - Mar 28 by Highjack |
We already lead the worlds coracle manufacturing industry. |
And I'd wager welsh cake making too? | |
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| Break up of the UK on 16:19 - Mar 28 with 624 views | Morfa_Same |
There are much smaller countries than both Wales and Scotland in Europe. There is no reason why both couldn't be independent if they wanted it. Iceland has a population of 300000 and seems to manage OK.
I'd love to see an independent Wales but the only way it will happen is if the UK disintegrates around us, although this is looking more promising than ever thanks to the brexiters. |  | | |
| Break up of the UK on 16:33 - Mar 28 with 609 views | blueytheblue |
| Break up of the UK on 16:19 - Mar 28 by Morfa_Same |
There are much smaller countries than both Wales and Scotland in Europe. There is no reason why both couldn't be independent if they wanted it. Iceland has a population of 300000 and seems to manage OK.
I'd love to see an independent Wales but the only way it will happen is if the UK disintegrates around us, although this is looking more promising than ever thanks to the brexiters. |
Iceland, if you want that as an example, has been independent for how long?
Has it been as rooted with other nations as Scotland, Wales etc are?
The answer is a resounding "no" because you're comparing two different scenarios.
Scotland, Wales et al AT THIS POINT IN TIME cannotsucceed as independent nations. Doesn't mean they won't decades down the line, but it's folly to even imagine Wales, where WG ( happy, ECB?) have generally f*cked up the small devolved powers they have can magically become a fully fledged nation like Iceland without things being royally f*cked up.
Yes, UK is going to disintegrate by leaving EU...  | |
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| Break up of the UK on 17:24 - Mar 28 with 584 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Break up of the UK on 16:33 - Mar 28 by blueytheblue |
Iceland, if you want that as an example, has been independent for how long?
Has it been as rooted with other nations as Scotland, Wales etc are?
The answer is a resounding "no" because you're comparing two different scenarios.
Scotland, Wales et al AT THIS POINT IN TIME cannotsucceed as independent nations. Doesn't mean they won't decades down the line, but it's folly to even imagine Wales, where WG ( happy, ECB?) have generally f*cked up the small devolved powers they have can magically become a fully fledged nation like Iceland without things being royally f*cked up.
Yes, UK is going to disintegrate by leaving EU... |
Yes i agree. The brexit feckwits have achieved completely the opposite of their cozy black and white 1959s vision that the little Englanders so favour.
Mind you they were lied to big time. |  |
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| Break up of the UK on 18:02 - Mar 28 with 562 views | trampie |
Wales is a net exporter of electricity. [Post edited 28 Mar 2017 18:04]
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| Break up of the UK on 18:03 - Mar 28 with 558 views | trampie |
Nicola has fired the first bullet of this particular battle. | |
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| Break up of the UK on 18:10 - Mar 28 with 546 views | blueytheblue |
| Break up of the UK on 18:03 - Mar 28 by trampie |
Nicola has fired the first bullet of this particular battle. |
Let's see. Sturgeon squirts a water pistol. May fires an AK-47. | |
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| Break up of the UK on 18:28 - Mar 28 with 536 views | trampie |
| Break up of the UK on 16:33 - Mar 28 by blueytheblue |
Iceland, if you want that as an example, has been independent for how long?
Has it been as rooted with other nations as Scotland, Wales etc are?
The answer is a resounding "no" because you're comparing two different scenarios.
Scotland, Wales et al AT THIS POINT IN TIME cannotsucceed as independent nations. Doesn't mean they won't decades down the line, but it's folly to even imagine Wales, where WG ( happy, ECB?) have generally f*cked up the small devolved powers they have can magically become a fully fledged nation like Iceland without things being royally f*cked up.
Yes, UK is going to disintegrate by leaving EU... |
Iceland has been rooted with other nations, Norway, kingdom of Norway, Sweden and Denmark and then Denmark.
Iceland has the population the size of Cardiff and was recently said to be the 13th most developed country in the World, Scotland and Wales could be even better than them in a short time. | |
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| Break up of the UK on 18:34 - Mar 28 with 528 views | exiledclaseboy |
Sturgeon should hold an unofficial referendum. Win it and it's impossible for the UK government to ignore. |  |
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| Break up of the UK on 18:51 - Mar 28 with 511 views | Flashberryjack |
| Break up of the UK on 18:34 - Mar 28 by exiledclaseboy |
Sturgeon should hold an unofficial referendum. Win it and it's impossible for the UK government to ignore. |
She could go the full hog......and declare "Independence" |  |
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| Break up of the UK on 18:57 - Mar 28 with 504 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Break up of the UK on 18:51 - Mar 28 by Flashberryjack |
She could go the full hog......and declare "Independence" |
She coukd, but it would have no legitimacy. | |
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| Break up of the UK on 19:01 - Mar 28 with 498 views | trampie |
| Break up of the UK on 18:34 - Mar 28 by exiledclaseboy |
Sturgeon should hold an unofficial referendum. Win it and it's impossible for the UK government to ignore. |
Its possible. | |
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| Break up of the UK on 19:14 - Mar 28 with 485 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Break up of the UK on 19:01 - Mar 28 by trampie |
Its possible. |
Well yes, anything is possible but I'm sure you get my drift. | |
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| Break up of the UK on 19:37 - Mar 28 with 459 views | yescomeon |
| Break up of the UK on 16:33 - Mar 28 by blueytheblue |
Iceland, if you want that as an example, has been independent for how long?
Has it been as rooted with other nations as Scotland, Wales etc are?
The answer is a resounding "no" because you're comparing two different scenarios.
Scotland, Wales et al AT THIS POINT IN TIME cannotsucceed as independent nations. Doesn't mean they won't decades down the line, but it's folly to even imagine Wales, where WG ( happy, ECB?) have generally f*cked up the small devolved powers they have can magically become a fully fledged nation like Iceland without things being royally f*cked up.
Yes, UK is going to disintegrate by leaving EU... |
Iceland might have been as poor a choice of example you could have taken. There can't be many more examples out there in the world closer to the England/Ireland/Scotland/Wales situation. |  |
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| Break up of the UK on 19:51 - Mar 28 with 440 views | trampie |
Seems like the Conservatives and Labour [as well as Lib-Dems] voted together yet again, but the SNP along with the Greens carried the day. | |
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| Break up of the UK on 21:03 - Mar 28 with 406 views | raynor94 |
| Break up of the UK on 18:03 - Mar 28 by trampie |
Nicola has fired the first bullet of this particular battle. |
No that was Ruth Davidson, her "sit down" put down to Sturgeon was a joy to behold, left her apoplectic! |  |
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| Break up of the UK on 21:20 - Mar 28 with 397 views | LeonWasGod |
| Break up of the UK on 18:10 - Mar 28 by blueytheblue |
Let's see. Sturgeon squirts a water pistol. May fires an AK-47. |
May fires blanks though. 'No deal' hard Brexit my arse. That was just to theow a bone to the rabid Europhobes and now we're already hearing noises about them backing away from that position before negotiations have even started.
Lesson: ignore all the posturing, and then we'll see what comes out in the wash. |  | | |
| Break up of the UK on 21:27 - Mar 28 with 392 views | blueytheblue |
| Break up of the UK on 21:20 - Mar 28 by LeonWasGod |
May fires blanks though. 'No deal' hard Brexit my arse. That was just to theow a bone to the rabid Europhobes and now we're already hearing noises about them backing away from that position before negotiations have even started.
Lesson: ignore all the posturing, and then we'll see what comes out in the wash. |
"Hearing noises".
Lesson: never believe everything you hear before negotiating deals. | |
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| Break up of the UK on 21:31 - Mar 28 with 386 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Break up of the UK on 21:03 - Mar 28 by raynor94 |
No that was Ruth Davidson, her "sit down" put down to Sturgeon was a joy to behold, left her apoplectic! |
She's a talented politician - shame she's not at Westminster. | | | |
| Break up of the UK on 21:48 - Mar 28 with 376 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Break up of the UK on 21:27 - Mar 28 by blueytheblue |
"Hearing noises".
Lesson: never believe everything you hear before negotiating deals. |
I love your faith that the UK has got a crack negotiating strategy up our sleeve and the reason we're keeping it to ourselves is not to tip the EU off.
Whereas in actual fact we have no strategy and the reason we're not telling anyone what it is is because it doesn't exist. | |
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| Break up of the UK on 22:05 - Mar 28 with 364 views | blueytheblue |
| Break up of the UK on 21:48 - Mar 28 by exiledclaseboy |
I love your faith that the UK has got a crack negotiating strategy up our sleeve and the reason we're keeping it to ourselves is not to tip the EU off.
Whereas in actual fact we have no strategy and the reason we're not telling anyone what it is is because it doesn't exist. |
I love your cynicism; just because you've not been told the strategy doesn't mean it doesn't exist... | |
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| Break up of the UK on 22:06 - Mar 28 with 363 views | blueytheblue |
| Break up of the UK on 21:31 - Mar 28 by londonlisa2001 |
She's a talented politician - shame she's not at Westminster. |
Suspect she will be over time. | |
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