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1:19 pm today was the exact mid point from when the result that the Great British public had decided to leave the EU and the time 11pm March 29th 2019 that Democracy will be delivered.

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The Countdown begins. on 20:42 - Sep 25 with 826 viewsexiledclaseboy

The Countdown begins. on 20:40 - Sep 25 by peenemunde

You are not clever enough to play that card.


What card is that then, brainiac?

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The Countdown begins. on 20:45 - Sep 25 with 817 viewspeenemunde

The Countdown begins. on 20:42 - Sep 25 by exiledclaseboy

What card is that then, brainiac?


As I said you ain’t clever enough.
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The Countdown begins. on 21:08 - Sep 25 with 788 viewsCatullus

How can people still defend the EU? I read that link about MEP's expenses and it's horrific that a public servant can spend over 100,000 euros per year without any accountability. Then a European court backs up their right to secrecy saying their privacy can't be undermined!
What you do in public office has to be open to scrutiny. If Westminster behaved in such a way...well imagine the uproar on here. The WAG too has tried to hide things and there's been uproar but the EU do it and people say nothing?
249 ghost ofices, MEP's admitting they give money from expenses to their national party (against EU rules) and charity donations? How can anyone know how far the rule breaking goes without transparency scrutiny?
Then people wonder why brexiteers doesn't want any ECJ interference in the UK.

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The Countdown begins. on 21:11 - Sep 25 with 781 viewslonglostjack

The Countdown begins. on 18:12 - Sep 25 by oh_tommy_tommy

Kier starmmers speech today has just cost labour a general election and stabbed democracy in the back



Bonkers


You’re out of touch with the members Tommy. Better stand up for what you believe than play Machiavellian politics because you’re worried you’ll lose voters to UKIP. That’s Blairite stuff.

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The Countdown begins. on 21:12 - Sep 25 with 778 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 21:08 - Sep 25 by Catullus

How can people still defend the EU? I read that link about MEP's expenses and it's horrific that a public servant can spend over 100,000 euros per year without any accountability. Then a European court backs up their right to secrecy saying their privacy can't be undermined!
What you do in public office has to be open to scrutiny. If Westminster behaved in such a way...well imagine the uproar on here. The WAG too has tried to hide things and there's been uproar but the EU do it and people say nothing?
249 ghost ofices, MEP's admitting they give money from expenses to their national party (against EU rules) and charity donations? How can anyone know how far the rule breaking goes without transparency scrutiny?
Then people wonder why brexiteers doesn't want any ECJ interference in the UK.


People aren't saying nothing though, including many MEPs who think it's wrong. It can be changed.
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The Countdown begins. on 21:22 - Sep 25 with 765 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

The Countdown begins. on 18:48 - Sep 25 by londonlisa2001

If Keir Starmer was the Labour leader and there was a GE before next March he’d get in on a landslide.

It’s bonkers that Corbynistas can't see that.


Ah the old cult slur

It’s growing old



It’s no cult lovely Lisa

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The Countdown begins. on 21:29 - Sep 25 with 747 viewsJango

The Countdown begins. on 21:12 - Sep 25 by LeonWasGod

People aren't saying nothing though, including many MEPs who think it's wrong. It can be changed.


The ones on this page who won’t have a bad word said about the EU are quiet as usual. If a factory in England closes tomorrow and 5 people lose their job they’ll be on here gloating though no doubt.
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The Countdown begins. on 21:38 - Sep 25 with 738 viewsCatullus

The Countdown begins. on 21:12 - Sep 25 by LeonWasGod

People aren't saying nothing though, including many MEPs who think it's wrong. It can be changed.


There are a few MEP's who have spoken up, the majority though continue to reap the worst excesses of the gravy train.
For all the comments on here rebutting any anti EU post, there's been pretty much silence on this.
The worst thing is, people claim the EU is a democracy but how can you rely on the MEP's when it looks like they are bought and paid for?
I know the Westminster expenses scandal was a cover up and nothing much has changed, a few scapegoats were thrown to the wolves but the pigs are still snuffling away otherwise, but at least an FOI request gets the information. In the EU the secrecy around finances should have everyone worried, not least because they fail their own audit every year.

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The Countdown begins. on 21:48 - Sep 25 with 733 viewslonglostjack

The Countdown begins. on 21:38 - Sep 25 by Catullus

There are a few MEP's who have spoken up, the majority though continue to reap the worst excesses of the gravy train.
For all the comments on here rebutting any anti EU post, there's been pretty much silence on this.
The worst thing is, people claim the EU is a democracy but how can you rely on the MEP's when it looks like they are bought and paid for?
I know the Westminster expenses scandal was a cover up and nothing much has changed, a few scapegoats were thrown to the wolves but the pigs are still snuffling away otherwise, but at least an FOI request gets the information. In the EU the secrecy around finances should have everyone worried, not least because they fail their own audit every year.


Agree it’s unacceptable. I’ve never understood this expenses nonsense. They should be paid a salary and that’s that. Should be a basic principle everywhere, including local councils.
If you want to reform something you can only do so from within though. Shouting from the rooftops from outside will get you nowhere.

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The Countdown begins. on 22:11 - Sep 25 with 714 viewsJango

The Countdown begins. on 21:48 - Sep 25 by longlostjack

Agree it’s unacceptable. I’ve never understood this expenses nonsense. They should be paid a salary and that’s that. Should be a basic principle everywhere, including local councils.
If you want to reform something you can only do so from within though. Shouting from the rooftops from outside will get you nowhere.


The expenses being shared has been rejected numerous times. There is no chance of reform with that lot. You’re off your head if you think otherwise. It’s rotten to the core. We won’t need to shout from the rooftops when we are out.
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The Countdown begins. on 22:12 - Sep 25 with 710 viewslonglostjack

The Countdown begins. on 22:11 - Sep 25 by Jango

The expenses being shared has been rejected numerous times. There is no chance of reform with that lot. You’re off your head if you think otherwise. It’s rotten to the core. We won’t need to shout from the rooftops when we are out.


Toys and pram. Rule Britannia Jingo

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The Countdown begins. on 23:39 - Sep 25 with 669 viewsKilkennyjack



The plot thickens .....

Has the idiot Jezza outflanked the Maybot ?

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The Countdown begins. on 00:39 - Sep 26 with 652 viewsDJack

The Countdown begins. on 19:20 - Sep 25 by exiledclaseboy

In this thread full of nonsense I think that wins the nonsense award.


Of course it does. Tommy has form for it.

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The Countdown begins. on 08:13 - Sep 26 with 592 viewspikeypaul

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The Countdown begins. on 08:39 - Sep 26 with 580 viewsCatullus

The Countdown begins. on 22:12 - Sep 25 by longlostjack

Toys and pram. Rule Britannia Jingo


Nothing to do with toys and pram at all, when you can't get honesty, when you can't reform something that's so obviously wrong then leaving is a better option. Would you continue to use a club where you are told to pay for things you don't get an invoice for?
Hello Mr & Mrs UK, you'll never see what it's actually spent on but we want your share of over £40 million, now.....is that right or fair?

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The Countdown begins. on 08:45 - Sep 26 with 577 viewsCatullus

The Countdown begins. on 23:39 - Sep 25 by Kilkennyjack



The plot thickens .....

Has the idiot Jezza outflanked the Maybot ?


When did the elctorate give Labour a mandate to negotiate with the EU? Loathe them or love them, the government has the mandate.
Corbyn, Starmer, Cable or anybody not in government has no business telling the EU how they would do things or what should be happening, it undermines our position. It's already a hard enough job and possibly being fubarred without people adding to the mess.
Was it yesterday a Sky poll said only 22% thought him competent to negotiate Brexit with 71% saying he's incompetent. As much as you can ever believe a poll.

https://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-corbyn-would-be-incompetent-brexit-negotiator-

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The Countdown begins. on 09:14 - Sep 26 with 559 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

The Countdown begins. on 19:20 - Sep 25 by exiledclaseboy

In this thread full of nonsense I think that wins the nonsense award.


Care to elaborate comrade ?

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The Countdown begins. on 09:22 - Sep 26 with 549 viewslonglostjack

The Countdown begins. on 08:39 - Sep 26 by Catullus

Nothing to do with toys and pram at all, when you can't get honesty, when you can't reform something that's so obviously wrong then leaving is a better option. Would you continue to use a club where you are told to pay for things you don't get an invoice for?
Hello Mr & Mrs UK, you'll never see what it's actually spent on but we want your share of over £40 million, now.....is that right or fair?


Of course it can be reformed if the will is there. Would you be surprised if I told you that British Conservative MEP’s voted AGAINST the amendment calling for transparency! Fact.
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The Countdown begins. on 09:22 - Sep 26 with 546 viewsWarwickHunt

The Countdown begins. on 23:39 - Sep 25 by Kilkennyjack



The plot thickens .....

Has the idiot Jezza outflanked the Maybot ?


Doubt it. He’s missed more open goals than Steve Watkin.

Anyone see Dianne Abbott’s robotic, cringeworthy performance on Newsnight? Maitlis was laughing at her.
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The Countdown begins. on 09:33 - Sep 26 with 535 viewsLegend83

The Countdown begins. on 09:22 - Sep 26 by WarwickHunt

Doubt it. He’s missed more open goals than Steve Watkin.

Anyone see Dianne Abbott’s robotic, cringeworthy performance on Newsnight? Maitlis was laughing at her.


Watching Labour interviews saves me searching Netflix for a new comedy.

This and Jezza not being able to correctly recall a single one of Labour's 6 tests for Brexit in his interview with Kuensbergg was brilliant viewing.
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The Countdown begins. on 09:42 - Sep 26 with 524 viewsJango

The Countdown begins. on 09:22 - Sep 26 by longlostjack

Of course it can be reformed if the will is there. Would you be surprised if I told you that British Conservative MEP’s voted AGAINST the amendment calling for transparency! Fact.
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Who’s going to reform it? The unelected leaders? The Eu courts? Doing a great job so far aren’t they, yesterday was a fine example of how they corrupt the whole thing is. If the Remainers were to get their way and the U.K. crawled back with their tail between their legs, do you think we’d have any power at all anymore? They’d be laughing at us. They know we’d never leave and would just ignore anything we had to say, they’d never take us serious again. You need to wake up.
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The Countdown begins. on 09:49 - Sep 26 with 516 viewssherpajacob

The Countdown begins. on 21:48 - Sep 25 by longlostjack

Agree it’s unacceptable. I’ve never understood this expenses nonsense. They should be paid a salary and that’s that. Should be a basic principle everywhere, including local councils.
If you want to reform something you can only do so from within though. Shouting from the rooftops from outside will get you nowhere.


there's an argument MP's should be paid a lot more than they are.

On current evidence the salary offered is not sufficient to attract people of sufficient calibre.

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The Countdown begins. on 09:56 - Sep 26 with 504 viewsCatullus

The Countdown begins. on 09:22 - Sep 26 by longlostjack

Of course it can be reformed if the will is there. Would you be surprised if I told you that British Conservative MEP’s voted AGAINST the amendment calling for transparency! Fact.
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If the will is there.......isn't that the point, the will isn't there. Only a few MEP's think the system is wrong, the majority aren't going to vote for (effectively) a pay cut of around 50% and who would?
The Commission and Presidents don't want change, they are part of the gravy train, they designed it and benefit from it.
The European courts see nothing wrong with the absurd levels of secrecy either, how can we trust the ECJ when it doesn't believe in transparency for it's government. For aEuro court to say that MEP's spending of public finds is a private matter and we can't invade their privacy, well it's scandalous.
No I'm not surprised Tory MEP's voted against, why would I be? Pigs in troughs all of them. Although it says here a 15 member bureau voted down the changes, not sure how many Tories were in there,

https://www.politico.eu/article/strasbourg-european-parliament-meps-reject-scrut

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The Countdown begins. on 09:57 - Sep 26 with 504 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 09:49 - Sep 26 by sherpajacob

there's an argument MP's should be paid a lot more than they are.

On current evidence the salary offered is not sufficient to attract people of sufficient calibre.


...not forgetting that there are genuine need and reasons for expenses, to cover travel, accommodation, entertaining, food and drink costs when your away from home.

Disappointing that they didn't vote for transparency on this though. Seems its just a fixed extra to their salary.
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The Countdown begins. on 10:00 - Sep 26 with 500 viewslonglostjack

The Countdown begins. on 09:42 - Sep 26 by Jango

Who’s going to reform it? The unelected leaders? The Eu courts? Doing a great job so far aren’t they, yesterday was a fine example of how they corrupt the whole thing is. If the Remainers were to get their way and the U.K. crawled back with their tail between their legs, do you think we’d have any power at all anymore? They’d be laughing at us. They know we’d never leave and would just ignore anything we had to say, they’d never take us serious again. You need to wake up.
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I’m sure the UK would be taken more seriously if it wasn’t represented by a bunch of clowns who act as if the Empire still existed and Britannia still ruled two thirds of the world. Brexit is a proper Eton mess.

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