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Celtic in the Premier League? 22:24 - Feb 22 with 7080 viewsBrynCartwright

This side's natural level in the English tiers of football is so obviously the Championship.

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Celtic in the Premier League? on 11:53 - Feb 23 with 1239 viewsperchrockjack

Me too. Apologies for any offence caused to our many Celtic fans .

It's just that fookn Irish tricolour that does me every time


Come on Wales

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Celtic in the Premier League? on 11:58 - Feb 23 with 1231 viewsJack_Kass

People are mad for the game in the Northeast, doesn't make their teams any better. Newcastle and Sunderland have identical fanbases to both of them.

and I'd class both of them as bigger clubs.

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Celtic in the Premier League? on 12:02 - Feb 23 with 1225 viewsNeath_Jack

Celtic in the Premier League? on 11:58 - Feb 23 by Jack_Kass

People are mad for the game in the Northeast, doesn't make their teams any better. Newcastle and Sunderland have identical fanbases to both of them.

and I'd class both of them as bigger clubs.


Wait, what are you saying here?

That Sunderland and Newcastle have identical fan base to Glasgow Celtic? Have i got that right?

I want a mate like Flashberryjacks, who wears a Barnsley jersey with "Swans are my second team" on the back.
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Celtic in the Premier League? on 12:03 - Feb 23 with 1218 viewsperchrockjack

Geordies and makems see their clubs primarily as football clubs ,with no religious connotations .

Both bigger as football clubs .miles bigger


Take the bigotry out of Rangers and Celtic and you have nothing

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Celtic in the Premier League? on 12:05 - Feb 23 with 1216 viewsJack_Kass

Celtic in the Premier League? on 12:02 - Feb 23 by Neath_Jack

Wait, what are you saying here?

That Sunderland and Newcastle have identical fan base to Glasgow Celtic? Have i got that right?


In Football terms, stadium size and support base, yes.

Not in sociological terms, which I couldn't give a s**t about, to be honest.

If the Old firm entered the FA Cup in the first round, they'd never make it to the third.

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Celtic in the Premier League? on 12:09 - Feb 23 with 1203 viewsNeath_Jack

Like Pencoed, I'm now out.

There's people being blinded by their hate of the Old Firm teams.

Newcastle and Sunderland be f*cked

I want a mate like Flashberryjacks, who wears a Barnsley jersey with "Swans are my second team" on the back.
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Celtic in the Premier League? on 12:19 - Feb 23 with 1182 viewsKilkennyjack

Celtic in the Premier League? on 12:03 - Feb 23 by perchrockjack

Geordies and makems see their clubs primarily as football clubs ,with no religious connotations .

Both bigger as football clubs .miles bigger


Take the bigotry out of Rangers and Celtic and you have nothing


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Celtic in the Premier League? on 12:23 - Feb 23 with 1175 viewsKilkennyjack

Celtic in the Premier League? on 11:53 - Feb 23 by perchrockjack

Me too. Apologies for any offence caused to our many Celtic fans .

It's just that fookn Irish tricolour that does me every time


Come on Wales


Perch,

Any idea what the colours in the Irish tricolour represent ?
Look it up old man, educate yourself.

Now then - how many counties in Ulster ? ☘️🇮🇪

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Celtic in the Premier League? on 12:41 - Feb 23 with 1151 viewsDr_Winston

Celtic in the Premier League? on 12:09 - Feb 23 by Neath_Jack

Like Pencoed, I'm now out.

There's people being blinded by their hate of the Old Firm teams.

Newcastle and Sunderland be f*cked


Silly isn't it?

They're both huge clubs with Worldwide fanbases. Ally that to PL riches and they could easily be a force. Whether the rest of the game would want the shite that goes hand in hand with them in the Prem is another matter.

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Celtic in the Premier League? on 12:53 - Feb 23 with 1129 viewsDarran

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That was against Celtic.
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Celtic in the Premier League? on 13:04 - Feb 23 with 1120 viewsJack_Kass

Celtic in the Premier League? on 12:41 - Feb 23 by Dr_Winston

Silly isn't it?

They're both huge clubs with Worldwide fanbases. Ally that to PL riches and they could easily be a force. Whether the rest of the game would want the shite that goes hand in hand with them in the Prem is another matter.


Worldwide? Come on now

United, Liverpool, Madrid and Barca have a worldwide fanbase.

Old firm have what, Scotland and respective areas of Ireland?

Maybe a pocket of North America in Boston, but that is nothing compared to Madrid and Barcia in the hispanic areas, and Liverpool (Fenway) and United on the eastern seaboard.

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Celtic in the Premier League? on 13:19 - Feb 23 with 1101 viewsJack_Kass

Respective social media numbers.

Celtic

Facebook - 1.6 million
Instagram - 247k
Twitter - 569k

Total - 2.4 million

Newcastle

Facebook - 2.1 million
Instagram - 147k
Twitter - 1.22m

Total - 3.4 million

And let's not even get into Barca, Madrid et al
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Celtic in the Premier League? on 13:29 - Feb 23 with 1086 viewsEvanski

Celtic in the Premier League? on 12:03 - Feb 23 by perchrockjack

Geordies and makems see their clubs primarily as football clubs ,with no religious connotations .

Both bigger as football clubs .miles bigger


Take the bigotry out of Rangers and Celtic and you have nothing


I'm no Celtic fan, I don't give a monkeys about Scottish football, but it's worth noting that when they got to the final of the Europa League (in the noughties, I think) they took 80k+ fans, of which about 20k would've had tickets. To suggest that anyone in England except Man U, Liverpool and possibly Arsenal has support numbering anywhere near that of Celtic is disingenuous.

On a separate point, all clubs are constantly trying to tap into global markets, particularly the US; Celtic would be able to tap into a huge Irish-American market, most of which aren't currently interested as only 4 games a season have any relevance or are likely to be competitive. The potential revenue streams are enormous. Celtic would undoubtedly be competitive at the top end of the PL.

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Celtic in the Premier League? on 13:32 - Feb 23 with 1080 viewsJackfath

Celtic in the Premier League? on 13:19 - Feb 23 by Jack_Kass

Respective social media numbers.

Celtic

Facebook - 1.6 million
Instagram - 247k
Twitter - 569k

Total - 2.4 million

Newcastle

Facebook - 2.1 million
Instagram - 147k
Twitter - 1.22m

Total - 3.4 million

And let's not even get into Barca, Madrid et al
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There's a person that does that for the Trust. They report it in the minutes. Quite what they hope to then do with the numbers is another thing.......

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Celtic in the Premier League? on 13:37 - Feb 23 with 1076 viewsEvanski

Celtic in the Premier League? on 13:19 - Feb 23 by Jack_Kass

Respective social media numbers.

Celtic

Facebook - 1.6 million
Instagram - 247k
Twitter - 569k

Total - 2.4 million

Newcastle

Facebook - 2.1 million
Instagram - 147k
Twitter - 1.22m

Total - 3.4 million

And let's not even get into Barca, Madrid et al
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That'll be the effect of the PL's global reach. To put it into context, we have 900k Twitter followers. Alas, we do not have more fans than Celtic.

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Celtic in the Premier League? on 13:39 - Feb 23 with 1075 viewsJack_Kass

Celtic in the Premier League? on 13:29 - Feb 23 by Evanski

I'm no Celtic fan, I don't give a monkeys about Scottish football, but it's worth noting that when they got to the final of the Europa League (in the noughties, I think) they took 80k+ fans, of which about 20k would've had tickets. To suggest that anyone in England except Man U, Liverpool and possibly Arsenal has support numbering anywhere near that of Celtic is disingenuous.

On a separate point, all clubs are constantly trying to tap into global markets, particularly the US; Celtic would be able to tap into a huge Irish-American market, most of which aren't currently interested as only 4 games a season have any relevance or are likely to be competitive. The potential revenue streams are enormous. Celtic would undoubtedly be competitive at the top end of the PL.


A large % of the spectacting audience in the United States are hispanic, and thus Madrid and Barca are kings. Soccer isn't touching the traditional big 4 outside of this demographic.

'The irish-american' market is concentrated in New England, e.g Boston and north from there. Liverpool are also massive in this market, due to the Fenway (Red Sox baseball) connection.

Celtic don't register in the USA anymore than the Cleveland Browns register in the United Kingdom.

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Celtic in the Premier League? on 13:50 - Feb 23 with 1062 viewsEvanski

Celtic in the Premier League? on 13:39 - Feb 23 by Jack_Kass

A large % of the spectacting audience in the United States are hispanic, and thus Madrid and Barca are kings. Soccer isn't touching the traditional big 4 outside of this demographic.

'The irish-american' market is concentrated in New England, e.g Boston and north from there. Liverpool are also massive in this market, due to the Fenway (Red Sox baseball) connection.

Celtic don't register in the USA anymore than the Cleveland Browns register in the United Kingdom.


Fair point, but what I'm suggesting is that they might if they were in the PL. The SPL is an irrelevance outside Scotland.

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Celtic in the Premier League? on 13:56 - Feb 23 with 1058 viewsJack_Kass

Celtic in the Premier League? on 13:37 - Feb 23 by Evanski

That'll be the effect of the PL's global reach. To put it into context, we have 900k Twitter followers. Alas, we do not have more fans than Celtic.


OK, but social media also has a global reach, so surely this incredible fanbase and support all around the world would be reflected in those numbers?

Surely if the size of their support is over inflated, compared to the league they play in, then they would be comparable?

Galatasaray have 8m followers, what global reach does the Turkish league have?

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Celtic in the Premier League? on 14:08 - Feb 23 with 1044 viewsEvanski

You could argue that Galatasaray have more global exposure as they tend to last longer in the CL than Celtic, perhaps because their league is far more competitive than the SPL. That and the fact that Turkey's population is over 10x that of Scotland, plus a huge Turkish ex-pat community all over the world. 8m is pretty impressive though, I'm surprised.

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Celtic in the Premier League? on 14:16 - Feb 23 with 1033 viewsJackieMoon

Celtic in the Premier League? on 13:19 - Feb 23 by Jack_Kass

Respective social media numbers.

Celtic

Facebook - 1.6 million
Instagram - 247k
Twitter - 569k

Total - 2.4 million

Newcastle

Facebook - 2.1 million
Instagram - 147k
Twitter - 1.22m

Total - 3.4 million

And let's not even get into Barca, Madrid et al
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The modern football fan who uses social media figures to gauge the size of a club.

Absolutely clueless !!!!
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Celtic in the Premier League? on 14:22 - Feb 23 with 1023 viewsJack_Kass

Celtic in the Premier League? on 14:16 - Feb 23 by JackieMoon

The modern football fan who uses social media figures to gauge the size of a club.

Absolutely clueless !!!!


Aye, why use a global metric when we can just use old yarns of when Jock Stein took the Lisbon Lions to glory in 1967

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Celtic in the Premier League? on 14:31 - Feb 23 with 1016 viewsEvanski

Well what is beyond dispute is that Celtic average attendances of around 60k per game despite the dross that they face week in, week out. If they were welcoming the likes of Man U et al to Celtic Park every other week it's reasonable to assume that they could expand and still fill the place.

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Celtic in the Premier League? on 14:41 - Feb 23 with 1006 viewsKilkennyjack

Celtic in the Premier League? on 13:39 - Feb 23 by Jack_Kass

A large % of the spectacting audience in the United States are hispanic, and thus Madrid and Barca are kings. Soccer isn't touching the traditional big 4 outside of this demographic.

'The irish-american' market is concentrated in New England, e.g Boston and north from there. Liverpool are also massive in this market, due to the Fenway (Red Sox baseball) connection.

Celtic don't register in the USA anymore than the Cleveland Browns register in the United Kingdom.


Well i guess the 35 million Irish Americans dont really count if you are minded to ignore them .... ☘️🇺🇸☘️🇺🇸

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Celtic in the Premier League? on 16:33 - Feb 23 with 976 viewsBobby_Fischer

Celtic in the Premier League? on 14:16 - Feb 23 by JackieMoon

The modern football fan who uses social media figures to gauge the size of a club.

Absolutely clueless !!!!


I had a chuckle.

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Celtic in the Premier League? on 17:21 - Feb 23 with 944 viewsMrSwerve

Celtic in the Premier League? on 08:10 - Feb 23 by Neath_Jack

You're not seriously comparing Newcastle to Celtic?


Are Celtic a bigger club than Newcastle? Probably, but it's certainly an arguable point.

I don't see any reason why they would instantly walk into the top 5-6 though. Newcastle's big fan base has done nothing for them over the past 20 years in terms of them being competitive.

Oh and I have no hate for Celtic, Rangers or Scottish football in general.
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