| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly 18:04 - May 18 with 96138 views | krunchykarrot |
The time has come, second rate at best. |  | | |  |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 12:12 - Jan 5 with 1376 views | Catullus |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 10:34 - Jan 5 by exhmrc1 |
Perhaps you ought to look at the figures as that may explain why Drakeford isnt committing beyond 18 Jan. Yesterday in Wales there were 1898 new cases. This is the 2nd lowest daily total since 5 December other than the days when lighthouse lab figures werent included so the rate is far lower than in England and has been dropping whilst England's is still rising. Yesterday there was nearly 20,000 more cases pro rata in England than in Wales.
The Welsh figures are dropping day as against the same day the previous week. In the 6 days to 23 Dec there was 16547. In the 6 days to yesterday there were 12785 a drop of almost a quarter. Lockdown should begin to work this week taking our figures lower. Who knows where our figures will be in 2 weeks time. It might well be the figures will be low enough to allow schools to open. It may not but making decisions now is not in the best interest of everyone.
Have a look at the differences between the 2 governments over exams. Wales acted decisively in cancelling exams as it was increasingly obvious it wasnt going to be a fair system this year. The UK government dithered only making a decision yesterday and creating uncertainty for students and parents.
The UK prime minister 6 times in an interview on Sunday claimed schools were safe and staying open. Yesterday after kids going back to school he announced last night schools were closing for 6 weeks. The UK governments inconsistency doesnt help anyone.
Wales announced a lockdown on 20 December to start immediately. Johnson didnt do so and the result is a sustained rise for some time longer than in Wales. Drakeford's policy working better than Johnson's.
As far as locking down care homes I agree with you. The first priority should have been vaccinating NHS staff first. They are in the front line and also it would prevent people going to hospital catching it. In fact, that is what has been done locally but many on here have been criticising them for doing so. The local health board had vaccinated nearly 6000 people by 27 December compared to 1 million in the UK. Swansea Bay has just under 1/8 of the Welsh population which in itself is 1/22 of the UK population so the Swansea Bay vaccination rate is 6000x8x22 which just over 1 million. The difference is Swansea Bay has vaccinated healthcare staff rather than patients first |
Those numbers, how do you think they might be affected by schools returning? This new variant is 70% more transmissible and kids will spread it like wildfire.
Keeping schools shut is like making a firebreak to prevent the fire finding new ground, it's called being ahead of the fire and not constantly chasing it. |  |
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| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 12:29 - Jan 5 with 1374 views | Whiterockin |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 10:34 - Jan 5 by exhmrc1 |
Perhaps you ought to look at the figures as that may explain why Drakeford isnt committing beyond 18 Jan. Yesterday in Wales there were 1898 new cases. This is the 2nd lowest daily total since 5 December other than the days when lighthouse lab figures werent included so the rate is far lower than in England and has been dropping whilst England's is still rising. Yesterday there was nearly 20,000 more cases pro rata in England than in Wales.
The Welsh figures are dropping day as against the same day the previous week. In the 6 days to 23 Dec there was 16547. In the 6 days to yesterday there were 12785 a drop of almost a quarter. Lockdown should begin to work this week taking our figures lower. Who knows where our figures will be in 2 weeks time. It might well be the figures will be low enough to allow schools to open. It may not but making decisions now is not in the best interest of everyone.
Have a look at the differences between the 2 governments over exams. Wales acted decisively in cancelling exams as it was increasingly obvious it wasnt going to be a fair system this year. The UK government dithered only making a decision yesterday and creating uncertainty for students and parents.
The UK prime minister 6 times in an interview on Sunday claimed schools were safe and staying open. Yesterday after kids going back to school he announced last night schools were closing for 6 weeks. The UK governments inconsistency doesnt help anyone.
Wales announced a lockdown on 20 December to start immediately. Johnson didnt do so and the result is a sustained rise for some time longer than in Wales. Drakeford's policy working better than Johnson's.
As far as locking down care homes I agree with you. The first priority should have been vaccinating NHS staff first. They are in the front line and also it would prevent people going to hospital catching it. In fact, that is what has been done locally but many on here have been criticising them for doing so. The local health board had vaccinated nearly 6000 people by 27 December compared to 1 million in the UK. Swansea Bay has just under 1/8 of the Welsh population which in itself is 1/22 of the UK population so the Swansea Bay vaccination rate is 6000x8x22 which just over 1 million. The difference is Swansea Bay has vaccinated healthcare staff rather than patients first |
2,069 cases today so is the rate rising after Christmas get together's?
Way to early in my opinion to start looking at trends. We have a long way to go with this. |  | | |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 13:43 - Jan 5 with 1356 views | exhmrc1 |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 12:29 - Jan 5 by Whiterockin |
2,069 cases today so is the rate rising after Christmas get together's?
Way to early in my opinion to start looking at trends. We have a long way to go with this. |
Not really figures always rise on Tuesday and Wednesdays due to late recording over the weekend. Todays figure is 2069. Last Tuesdays figure was 2510. Yesterdays figure was 1898 last Monday was 2273. Both this and last week the figure increased on a Tuesday as it has throughout and may well increase tomorrow. That would be in keeping with the past as well.
The other thing that is happening is late recording of lighthouse labs. This has been a problem since we started using them so the actual amount per date of test is often different to the date they are shown and this can mislead the figures. They are sometimes 6 days late. There is little doubt the general rate has been slowing down.
The lockdown and Christmas effect wont have happened yet. That will be this week or possibly early next week, | | | |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 13:51 - Jan 5 with 1350 views | Whiterockin |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 13:43 - Jan 5 by exhmrc1 |
Not really figures always rise on Tuesday and Wednesdays due to late recording over the weekend. Todays figure is 2069. Last Tuesdays figure was 2510. Yesterdays figure was 1898 last Monday was 2273. Both this and last week the figure increased on a Tuesday as it has throughout and may well increase tomorrow. That would be in keeping with the past as well.
The other thing that is happening is late recording of lighthouse labs. This has been a problem since we started using them so the actual amount per date of test is often different to the date they are shown and this can mislead the figures. They are sometimes 6 days late. There is little doubt the general rate has been slowing down.
The lockdown and Christmas effect wont have happened yet. That will be this week or possibly early next week, |
So with that reason they are normally down on a Monday, if so why use that figure to say they are falling. | | | |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 14:01 - Jan 5 with 1344 views | exhmrc1 |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 13:51 - Jan 5 by Whiterockin |
So with that reason they are normally down on a Monday, if so why use that figure to say they are falling. |
Because the Monday figure is compared to the previous Monday. The Tuesday with Tuesday etc. That is accurate. Using any day with the day before isnt. It clearly is falling. It was roughly a quarter less in the 6 days to yesterday to the 6 days to 23 December. These stats dont lie unlike the R rate which actually refers to 2 weeks earlier. | | | |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 14:06 - Jan 5 with 1340 views | Whiterockin |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 14:01 - Jan 5 by exhmrc1 |
Because the Monday figure is compared to the previous Monday. The Tuesday with Tuesday etc. That is accurate. Using any day with the day before isnt. It clearly is falling. It was roughly a quarter less in the 6 days to yesterday to the 6 days to 23 December. These stats dont lie unlike the R rate which actually refers to 2 weeks earlier. |
You said.
"Yesterday in Wales there were 1898 new cases. This is the 2nd lowest daily total since 5 December"
So you were comparing days for nearly a month not like for like. | | | |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 14:36 - Jan 5 with 1319 views | exhmrc1 |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 14:06 - Jan 5 by Whiterockin |
You said.
"Yesterday in Wales there were 1898 new cases. This is the 2nd lowest daily total since 5 December"
So you were comparing days for nearly a month not like for like. |
No just stating a fact that it was the 2nd lowest figure. Here are the equivalent figures for the last fortnight
5 Jan 2069 29 Dec 2510
4 Jan 1898 28 Dec 2273
3 Jan 4011 27 Dec 4142 This includes 2 days amounts as no figures shown for 25/12 1/1
2 Jan 2764 26 Dec 2237
31 Dec 1831 24 Dec 2161
30 Dec 2281 23 Dec 3013
The figure for 2 Jan includes catching up of tests but all others show the trend. Up and down on the same days of the week.
Just to give some detail on early December when the figures escalated. Monday was 7 Dec and was 2021 and higher than 1898 for yesterday so the figure for yesterday was lower than 4 weeks earlier. [Post edited 5 Jan 2021 15:26]
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| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 15:09 - Jan 5 with 1295 views | Kilkennyjack |
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| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 16:54 - Jan 5 with 1250 views | felixstowe_jack |
Today's figures
NI 33.4% of people tested were positive
Wales 16.4% of people tested were positive
Scotland 14.8% of people tested were positive
UK 13.1% of people tested were positive
England 12.9% of people tested were positive.
% OF UK POPULATION % OF UK TEST CARRIED OUT
ENGLAND 84 92
SCOTLAND 8.3 3.9
WALES 4.9 2.7
NI 2.9 1.7
Very worrying that the number test in Scotland Wales and NI is only about 60% of total tests they need to carry out to meet the UK average. Clearly the number of cases report will be about in these countries will be 40 % lower than they should be.
Seems a good way to reduce the number of cases is to do far less testing . No wonder PHW and getting are reporting that cases are falling when they are doing less testing. In the first 3 weeks of December they were doing 20,000 tests a day. For the last week daily average is only 13,000. | |
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| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 18:58 - Jan 5 with 1239 views | BillyChong |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 16:54 - Jan 5 by felixstowe_jack |
Today's figures
NI 33.4% of people tested were positive
Wales 16.4% of people tested were positive
Scotland 14.8% of people tested were positive
UK 13.1% of people tested were positive
England 12.9% of people tested were positive.
% OF UK POPULATION % OF UK TEST CARRIED OUT
ENGLAND 84 92
SCOTLAND 8.3 3.9
WALES 4.9 2.7
NI 2.9 1.7
Very worrying that the number test in Scotland Wales and NI is only about 60% of total tests they need to carry out to meet the UK average. Clearly the number of cases report will be about in these countries will be 40 % lower than they should be.
Seems a good way to reduce the number of cases is to do far less testing . No wonder PHW and getting are reporting that cases are falling when they are doing less testing. In the first 3 weeks of December they were doing 20,000 tests a day. For the last week daily average is only 13,000. |
So maybe people should just go for a test when there’s no need to, just to bump these figures up? Or am I missing something here? | | | |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 20:09 - Jan 5 with 1212 views | Catullus |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 13:43 - Jan 5 by exhmrc1 |
Not really figures always rise on Tuesday and Wednesdays due to late recording over the weekend. Todays figure is 2069. Last Tuesdays figure was 2510. Yesterdays figure was 1898 last Monday was 2273. Both this and last week the figure increased on a Tuesday as it has throughout and may well increase tomorrow. That would be in keeping with the past as well.
The other thing that is happening is late recording of lighthouse labs. This has been a problem since we started using them so the actual amount per date of test is often different to the date they are shown and this can mislead the figures. They are sometimes 6 days late. There is little doubt the general rate has been slowing down.
The lockdown and Christmas effect wont have happened yet. That will be this week or possibly early next week, |
On the news tonight they said (Welsh news, Owain Clarke I think) that although the number of cases is falling the number of hospitalisations are rising. This new strain is affecting younger people more than previously.
There's yet another new strai in South Africa which theythink may be vaccine resistant.
It's almost as if ( in the conspracy theorists world ) someone is manipulating it!
Anyway, this virus is proving to be hard to take down, it changes quickly, it became more infectious and affected younger people more. Now is not the time to relax, obviously. | |
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| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 21:06 - Jan 5 with 1193 views | exhmrc1 |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 20:09 - Jan 5 by Catullus |
On the news tonight they said (Welsh news, Owain Clarke I think) that although the number of cases is falling the number of hospitalisations are rising. This new strain is affecting younger people more than previously.
There's yet another new strai in South Africa which theythink may be vaccine resistant.
It's almost as if ( in the conspracy theorists world ) someone is manipulating it!
Anyway, this virus is proving to be hard to take down, it changes quickly, it became more infectious and affected younger people more. Now is not the time to relax, obviously. |
Hospitalisations will increase. The follow the trend in new cases about 3 weeks later. In approx 10 days time they should start falling. Same it is a little too early for the local down to take effect and for christmas problems to show. Probably the end of the week or next week.
Most places in Wales have been showing a fall. As examples Swansea bay had 198 cases today and 252 a week ago. Cardiff and the Vale had 258 as against 452, Aneurin Bevan 399 as against 579, Cwm Taf 382 as against 591 and Hywel Dda 140 as against 155.
The only areas rising are Powys and Betsi Cadwalladr.
The figures will probably rise again tomorrow then drop nearer the weekend. That is what usually happens. | | | |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 21:23 - Jan 5 with 1174 views | pencoedjack |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 20:09 - Jan 5 by Catullus |
On the news tonight they said (Welsh news, Owain Clarke I think) that although the number of cases is falling the number of hospitalisations are rising. This new strain is affecting younger people more than previously.
There's yet another new strai in South Africa which theythink may be vaccine resistant.
It's almost as if ( in the conspracy theorists world ) someone is manipulating it!
Anyway, this virus is proving to be hard to take down, it changes quickly, it became more infectious and affected younger people more. Now is not the time to relax, obviously. |
Meanwhile in China ....... |  | | |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 21:40 - Jan 5 with 1161 views | Catullus |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 18:58 - Jan 5 by BillyChong |
So maybe people should just go for a test when there’s no need to, just to bump these figures up? Or am I missing something here? |
Or maybe (and bearing in mind hospitalisations are increasing) by doing 35% fewer tests they are just reducing the numbers of positive returns and making the figures look artificially better?
The true number of positive cases may not be dropping at all. | |
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| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 23:13 - Jan 5 with 1138 views | exhmrc1 |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 21:40 - Jan 5 by Catullus |
Or maybe (and bearing in mind hospitalisations are increasing) by doing 35% fewer tests they are just reducing the numbers of positive returns and making the figures look artificially better?
The true number of positive cases may not be dropping at all. |
Figures are dropping and that is definite. There were over 35000 tests a couple of days ago approx 18000 per day when the actual positive cases were just over 2000 a day.
The figures have nothing to with politicians. They are based on tests and positive results from people who conduct the tests. Deaths are based on recorded deaths. It is quite clear there has been peaks and troughs from the start of the pandemic. We in wales and especially locally in Swansea and Neath Port Talbot are currently going through a trough which is extremely good news. It might well reverse in a week or so given the Christmas situation but currently things are going in the right direction | | | |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 08:38 - Jan 6 with 1086 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 23:13 - Jan 5 by exhmrc1 |
Figures are dropping and that is definite. There were over 35000 tests a couple of days ago approx 18000 per day when the actual positive cases were just over 2000 a day.
The figures have nothing to with politicians. They are based on tests and positive results from people who conduct the tests. Deaths are based on recorded deaths. It is quite clear there has been peaks and troughs from the start of the pandemic. We in wales and especially locally in Swansea and Neath Port Talbot are currently going through a trough which is extremely good news. It might well reverse in a week or so given the Christmas situation but currently things are going in the right direction |
As you may have noticed PHW did not publish any test results for one day but added them to the results the next day to make the 35,000 figures. A quick visit to the PHW web site will confirm that. Hopefully now we are now in the new year and bank holidays are over PHW can get back to proper testing. | |
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| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 10:16 - Jan 6 with 1072 views | Catullus |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 21:06 - Jan 5 by exhmrc1 |
Hospitalisations will increase. The follow the trend in new cases about 3 weeks later. In approx 10 days time they should start falling. Same it is a little too early for the local down to take effect and for christmas problems to show. Probably the end of the week or next week.
Most places in Wales have been showing a fall. As examples Swansea bay had 198 cases today and 252 a week ago. Cardiff and the Vale had 258 as against 452, Aneurin Bevan 399 as against 579, Cwm Taf 382 as against 591 and Hywel Dda 140 as against 155.
The only areas rising are Powys and Betsi Cadwalladr.
The figures will probably rise again tomorrow then drop nearer the weekend. That is what usually happens. |
Wher did you get your figures from? On the 4th Jan SBHB had 217 confirmed cases and 18 suspected cases.
Re hospitalisations, you can't say the figures will be 3 weeks behind because the virus affects different people in different ways, some will get worse more quickly than others.
If testing returns to pre Christmas levels then we'll see whats happening. | |
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| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 10:56 - Jan 6 with 1062 views | Catullus |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 23:13 - Jan 5 by exhmrc1 |
Figures are dropping and that is definite. There were over 35000 tests a couple of days ago approx 18000 per day when the actual positive cases were just over 2000 a day.
The figures have nothing to with politicians. They are based on tests and positive results from people who conduct the tests. Deaths are based on recorded deaths. It is quite clear there has been peaks and troughs from the start of the pandemic. We in wales and especially locally in Swansea and Neath Port Talbot are currently going through a trough which is extremely good news. It might well reverse in a week or so given the Christmas situation but currently things are going in the right direction |
If I accept that cases are honestly dropping do I think that's better when the death rate has doubled?
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/coronavirus-vaccine-wales-lockdown
PS, having read that story further down it also says that cases appear to still be rising. WOL says,
"The infection rate in Wales is now 463.5 cases per 100,000 people based on the seven days up to December 31. That is a slight rise on the 451.1 previously. Case levels now appear to have been rising in the week after Christmas." [Post edited 6 Jan 2021 11:00]
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| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 12:19 - Jan 6 with 1042 views | felixstowe_jack |
PHW figures today
Number of tests 12493 down from yesterday
Number of positive tests 2238 up from yesterday
% of people who tested positive 17.9 up from yesterday..
It is a worry with PHW doing fewer tests, 20,000 per day before Christmas, that people who have asymptomatic are being missed and are not self isolating and could still be spreading the virus. | |
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| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 13:24 - Jan 6 with 1031 views | BillyChong |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 12:19 - Jan 6 by felixstowe_jack |
PHW figures today
Number of tests 12493 down from yesterday
Number of positive tests 2238 up from yesterday
% of people who tested positive 17.9 up from yesterday..
It is a worry with PHW doing fewer tests, 20,000 per day before Christmas, that people who have asymptomatic are being missed and are not self isolating and could still be spreading the virus. |
But why would asymptotic people be booking a test? | | | |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 14:12 - Jan 6 with 1015 views | exhmrc1 |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 10:56 - Jan 6 by Catullus |
If I accept that cases are honestly dropping do I think that's better when the death rate has doubled?
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/coronavirus-vaccine-wales-lockdown
PS, having read that story further down it also says that cases appear to still be rising. WOL says,
"The infection rate in Wales is now 463.5 cases per 100,000 people based on the seven days up to December 31. That is a slight rise on the 451.1 previously. Case levels now appear to have been rising in the week after Christmas." [Post edited 6 Jan 2021 11:00]
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What that doesnt tell you is that the lighthouse lab figures have been delayed and are affecting the figures. The figures that they are using are based on test dates and not the dates the numbers are actually shown. They are several days out of date and like the R figure are not current. The actual figures declared are clearly showing it is falling and will continue to do so. The most accurate and reliable figure is a comparison with the same day the week before.
6 Jan 2238 30 Dec 2281
5 Jan 2069 29 Dec 2510
4 Jan 1898 28 Dec 2273
3 Jan 4011 27 Dec 4142
Each day is lower than the corresponding day the week before.
Figures fluctuate daily. Tuesday and Wednesday are usually the highest figures and Sunday and Monday the lowest. Tuesday is for figures recorded by 9am Monday and Wednesday by 9am Tuesday. This includes catching up on figures not recorded on the weekend. It used to be 1pm not 9am and this is why deaths are always higher midweek. This is the reason why there is such a fluctuation.
I dont know if you saw the Welsh press conference today when the NHS head mentioned hospital numbers are beginning to plateau but Intensive Care is still rising. That and deaths should also begin to slow down in the next approx 10 days. This has happened throughout the pandemic. People get the virus later go to hospital and then many end up later in intensive care. [Post edited 6 Jan 2021 14:25]
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| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 16:00 - Jan 6 with 992 views | Catullus |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 14:12 - Jan 6 by exhmrc1 |
What that doesnt tell you is that the lighthouse lab figures have been delayed and are affecting the figures. The figures that they are using are based on test dates and not the dates the numbers are actually shown. They are several days out of date and like the R figure are not current. The actual figures declared are clearly showing it is falling and will continue to do so. The most accurate and reliable figure is a comparison with the same day the week before.
6 Jan 2238 30 Dec 2281
5 Jan 2069 29 Dec 2510
4 Jan 1898 28 Dec 2273
3 Jan 4011 27 Dec 4142
Each day is lower than the corresponding day the week before.
Figures fluctuate daily. Tuesday and Wednesday are usually the highest figures and Sunday and Monday the lowest. Tuesday is for figures recorded by 9am Monday and Wednesday by 9am Tuesday. This includes catching up on figures not recorded on the weekend. It used to be 1pm not 9am and this is why deaths are always higher midweek. This is the reason why there is such a fluctuation.
I dont know if you saw the Welsh press conference today when the NHS head mentioned hospital numbers are beginning to plateau but Intensive Care is still rising. That and deaths should also begin to slow down in the next approx 10 days. This has happened throughout the pandemic. People get the virus later go to hospital and then many end up later in intensive care. [Post edited 6 Jan 2021 14:25]
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Really?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52380643#:~:text=Across%20England%20and%20Wa
In there it says Wales is the only part of the UK WITHOUT falling covid cases. They could be wrong I guess. Maybe they haven't fact checked again? | |
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| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 20:35 - Jan 6 with 963 views | exhmrc1 |
well let the facts speak for themselves
17 Dec 11468
18 Dec 2801
19 Dec 3065
20 Dec 2334
21 Dec 2573
22 Dec 2761
23 Dec 3013
24 Dec 2161
26 Dec 2237
27 Dec 4142
28 Dec 2273
29 Dec 2510
30 Dec 2281
31 Dec 1831
2 Jan 2764
3 Jan 4011
4 Jan 1898
5 Jan 2069
6 Jan 2238
Well the facts tell a story as does a comment I have taken from the BBC statement
The case rates compare different areas and sizes of populations but all councils, except most in north Wales, have seen a drop in the past seven days.
You will actually find Wales is the only part of the UK where it is falling which isnt surprising as Wales has gone into lockdown earlier.
Here is a statement from Johnson but it will drop earlier in Wales as I have already shown
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1380308/coronavirus-uk-covid-19-deaths-vaccine
The cases for England shows that it has risen alarmingly from 34247 on 23 Dec to 56060 today. Somebody at the BBC has this hugely wrong. The rate for Wales per 100000 resident has dropped from 650 to 480. The uk rate has moved above that and is 550.5 and rising. | | | |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 21:06 - Jan 6 with 949 views | Catullus |
Here's the thing, if I accept the number of NEW cases is dropping BUT the number of cases overall is still rising and hospitalisations are rising more quickly. This is the big problem.
As long as cases are still rising and more and more people are going to hospital the problem gets worse. The point will come when the NHS breaks down.
Even so, according to Felix's post we did 12000 fewer tests and had more positive results, or have I misread it? | |
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| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 00:04 - Jan 7 with 924 views | exhmrc1 |
| Scrap the ineffective Senedd-Welsh Assembly on 21:06 - Jan 6 by Catullus |
Here's the thing, if I accept the number of NEW cases is dropping BUT the number of cases overall is still rising and hospitalisations are rising more quickly. This is the big problem.
As long as cases are still rising and more and more people are going to hospital the problem gets worse. The point will come when the NHS breaks down.
Even so, according to Felix's post we did 12000 fewer tests and had more positive results, or have I misread it? |
The problem with looking at tests is they are never accurate and usually days late. Lighthouse lab figures are up to 6 days late so you can get days when say 18000 tests are shown but actually only 15000 relate to that period as 3000-4000 could relate to earlier days. This is part of the reason why the daily rate figure shows something is going up but the actual recording date shows otherwise. Just to give an example look at the amounts shown for home testing varies. It has been worse over Christmas with delays. These are the daily home test from 1 December.
54
97
96
89
116
176
152
380
144
94
223
239
281
142
0
907
359
417
223
302
484
271
151
204
556
136
96
126
131
120
862
87
205
136
As you can see quite a lot in the last 4 days on average over 300 a day. | | | |
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