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Jacob Blake 07:17 - Aug 25 with 10186 viewsNotLoyal

The bloke shot by police reaching in to his car.
Any thoughts, apparently he had been tasered but it had no effect, on first watching it I thought it was way off shooting him seven times. I’m uncertain these officers made the right choices but then again I’m uncertain as well as to what Blake was reaching for in the car having failed to stop, stand still or obey instructions from the police.

Not sure those present knew of his previous convictions for gun offences but I’m not sure this has done the coppers a lot of good regardless of the outcome.

As an aside, he’s still alive.

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Jacob Blake on 13:30 - Aug 30 with 1132 viewsNotLoyal

Jacob Blake on 12:47 - Aug 30 by controversial_jack

They ask if you have been a victim of crime, and it's been far more reliable than recorded crime


So, what’s incorrect with record crime.

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Jacob Blake on 14:37 - Aug 30 with 1096 viewscontroversial_jack

Jacob Blake on 13:30 - Aug 30 by NotLoyal

So, what’s incorrect with record crime.


It doesn't reflect the total or actual crime, just that which is reported
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Jacob Blake on 15:51 - Aug 30 with 1082 viewsDr_Parnassus

Jacob Blake on 14:37 - Aug 30 by controversial_jack

It doesn't reflect the total or actual crime, just that which is reported


Meaning what?

You aren’t explaining your obsession with unreported crime.

It has nothing to do with anything that we are discussing.

We are discussing police related deaths after police contact. There is little to no police contact if there is no crime reported... so it’s irrelevant.

So we look at reported crime (police contact), and of that group that contact the police, how many are killed and what race they are.

It really is that simple.
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Jacob Blake on 16:42 - Aug 30 with 1056 viewsDJack

Jacob Blake on 13:30 - Aug 30 by NotLoyal

So, what’s incorrect with record crime.


I suspect it's something like this.

"Black victims of violence were slightly more likely than Hispanics to use services of nonpolice victim agenciesIn about 9% of violent crimes against blacks, the victim sought help from nonpolice agencies that provided services to victims of crime. Black victims of rape or sexual assault were as likely as victims of other types of violent crime to seek assistance from such agencies (table 11). Overall, blacks were as likely as whites, but slightly more likely than Hispanics to seek help from nonpolice victim agencies."

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pu

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Jacob Blake on 19:20 - Aug 30 with 991 viewsCatullus

Jacob Blake on 16:42 - Aug 30 by DJack

I suspect it's something like this.

"Black victims of violence were slightly more likely than Hispanics to use services of nonpolice victim agenciesIn about 9% of violent crimes against blacks, the victim sought help from nonpolice agencies that provided services to victims of crime. Black victims of rape or sexual assault were as likely as victims of other types of violent crime to seek assistance from such agencies (table 11). Overall, blacks were as likely as whites, but slightly more likely than Hispanics to seek help from nonpolice victim agencies."

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pu


The point being discussed is killings by police, where no police are involved there are no people being killed by police, that's the point about recorded crime.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Jacob Blake on 20:36 - Aug 30 with 977 viewsDJack

Jacob Blake on 19:20 - Aug 30 by Catullus

The point being discussed is killings by police, where no police are involved there are no people being killed by police, that's the point about recorded crime.


No there are many points being touched upon and one was reported and unreported crime. I gave an example as to what I suspect was one of the issues being highlighted by a poster.

That ok for you?

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Jacob Blake on 23:21 - Aug 30 with 951 viewsDr_Parnassus

Jacob Blake on 20:36 - Aug 30 by DJack

No there are many points being touched upon and one was reported and unreported crime. I gave an example as to what I suspect was one of the issues being highlighted by a poster.

That ok for you?


But that has nothing to do with police killings or the distribution of those killings to each race via the % of police contact as per the discussion.

Controversial Jack is confused with the concept enough.

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Jacob Blake on 23:30 - Aug 30 with 946 viewsNotLoyal

Jacob Blake on 14:37 - Aug 30 by controversial_jack

It doesn't reflect the total or actual crime, just that which is reported


I think that’s why it’s called recorded crime 😉

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Jacob Blake on 08:47 - Aug 31 with 910 viewsAndy1300

Why is this ok?

[Post edited 31 Aug 2020 9:15]

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Jacob Blake on 09:09 - Aug 31 with 900 viewsDr_Parnassus

Jacob Blake on 08:47 - Aug 31 by Andy1300

Why is this ok?

[Post edited 31 Aug 2020 9:15]


Because of slavery in the 1800’s or something...

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Jacob Blake on 09:18 - Aug 31 with 896 viewsAndy1300

So the organiser of a rave got a 10k fine, as did Piers Corbyn for organising a rally at the weekend.

Let’s hope this silly cow gets a 10k fine for organising this rally, you can bet she won’t though, because she is black!

And to think that people take the knee for these idiots!

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Jacob Blake on 11:13 - Aug 31 with 856 viewsCatullus

Jacob Blake on 09:18 - Aug 31 by Andy1300

So the organiser of a rave got a 10k fine, as did Piers Corbyn for organising a rally at the weekend.

Let’s hope this silly cow gets a 10k fine for organising this rally, you can bet she won’t though, because she is black!

And to think that people take the knee for these idiots!

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It was things like that that meant people like me wouldn't support BLMUK. I wonder who Sasha Johnson would turn to if she was violently assaulted, would she be crying out for the police and the full weight of the law then?

BLMUK wasn't complaining when the police stopped right wing racists from attacking them but was letting them tear down statues.

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Jacob Blake on 12:28 - Aug 31 with 836 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Jacob Blake on 20:36 - Aug 30 by DJack

No there are many points being touched upon and one was reported and unreported crime. I gave an example as to what I suspect was one of the issues being highlighted by a poster.

That ok for you?


Supporting the unsupportable.
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Jacob Blake on 12:32 - Aug 31 with 830 viewsA_Fans_Dad

It is their unalienable right to do whatever they want, protest, break the law, riot, loot, burn and murder because they are "supporting a good cause".
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Jacob Blake on 12:38 - Aug 31 with 827 viewsA_Fans_Dad

It is very telling that mr controversial is also on the other forum spouting the same complete rubbish.
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Jacob Blake on 14:44 - Aug 31 with 793 viewsDJack

Jacob Blake on 12:28 - Aug 31 by A_Fans_Dad

Supporting the unsupportable.


Who, me or CJ?

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Jacob Blake on 14:54 - Aug 31 with 789 viewscontroversial_jack

Jacob Blake on 12:38 - Aug 31 by A_Fans_Dad

It is very telling that mr controversial is also on the other forum spouting the same complete rubbish.


One threat was about Blake, the other in Kenosha. I didn't realise there were rules preventing someone from using both sites.Do i need your permission?
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Jacob Blake on 18:24 - Aug 31 with 752 viewsNotLoyal

Jacob Blake on 14:54 - Aug 31 by controversial_jack

One threat was about Blake, the other in Kenosha. I didn't realise there were rules preventing someone from using both sites.Do i need your permission?


You can’t threaten Blake, his legs have gone mun.

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Jacob Blake on 19:07 - Aug 31 with 734 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Jacob Blake on 14:54 - Aug 31 by controversial_jack

One threat was about Blake, the other in Kenosha. I didn't realise there were rules preventing someone from using both sites.Do i need your permission?


Of course not you can be a WUM on any forum you like.
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