| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI 13:03 - Sep 29 with 6553 views | onehunglow |
Sense at last.
Court of Appeal upholds the decision not to prosecute soldiers for "bloody Sunday".
God only knows how those soldiers have suffered under this cloud for almost 50 years.
A filthy ,dirty war where they were hung out to dry by a succession of British Governments.
That day is of course now folklore in Londonderry and the IRA supporters are of course livid with the decision.
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| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 12:12 - Oct 3 with 796 views | trampie |
I have read a few in my time but I reckon it was 2000 years of Welsh history. |  |
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| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 12:21 - Oct 3 with 774 views | Kerouac |
| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 12:12 - Oct 3 by trampie |
I have read a few in my time but I reckon it was 2000 years of Welsh history. |
So you can't name the book and the author but you "have read a few in your time".
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| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 12:23 - Oct 3 with 775 views | Swanjaxs |
| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 21:10 - Sep 29 by felixstowe_jack |
They should try him before a jury who will find him not guilty in 10 minutes .
This is nothing but a whitch hunt and show trial to appease our terrorists enemies. |
Well, let him take the stand then, as you say, if he's innocent then he will be acquitted.
In fact, he should welcome the chance to finally clear his name and put that awful day in Derry finally behind him. |  |
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| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 12:27 - Oct 3 with 763 views | trampie |
| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 12:21 - Oct 3 by Kerouac |
So you can't name the book and the author but you "have read a few in your time".
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It's called 2000 years of Welsh history, lol.
The full title is - Land of my father's : 2000 years of Welsh history. | |
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| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 14:51 - Oct 3 with 731 views | Groo |
If the Good Friday agreement meant amnesty for one side, then 100% it should mean amnesty for the other.
No matter innocent or guilty, the charges should not even be contemplated. |  |
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| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 14:56 - Oct 3 with 738 views | Nortbankboy |
| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 14:51 - Oct 3 by Groo |
If the Good Friday agreement meant amnesty for one side, then 100% it should mean amnesty for the other.
No matter innocent or guilty, the charges should not even be contemplated. |
Yes I think it's time to move on.
But that's easy for us to say I suppose, | | | |
| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 15:03 - Oct 3 with 730 views | trampie |
| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 14:51 - Oct 3 by Groo |
If the Good Friday agreement meant amnesty for one side, then 100% it should mean amnesty for the other.
No matter innocent or guilty, the charges should not even be contemplated. |
I said years and years ago on the net that the goodies will be seen as the baddies and baddies as the goodies as time rolls by.
Why did the UK Government cave in when in a winning position ?, why all the apologies by the UK Government ? , why all the consessions by the UK Government ?, did they realise that they were in the wrong, what other explanation is there ? [Post edited 3 Oct 2020 15:56]
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| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 15:54 - Oct 3 with 712 views | NotLoyal |
| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 14:56 - Oct 3 by Nortbankboy |
Yes I think it's time to move on.
But that's easy for us to say I suppose, |
Let me tell you there’s a small percent who will never move on. |  |
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| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 18:44 - Oct 3 with 681 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 11:27 - Oct 3 by Kerouac |
Please point to an example of the British Armed Forces targeting civilians and children 
These imbeciles were never in a 'war' with the British state.
It the UK had 'gone to war' they would have been annihilated, same goes for the Republic of Ireland.
The terrorists of N.Ireland, targeting women and kids were treated with kid gloves, precisely because the British state and the British armed forces do value civilians and children.
So much damage has been done over the years by a few dishonest dreamers. Losers. |
If its not a war, then your old soldier is on a murder charge. |  |
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| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 18:46 - Oct 3 with 678 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 22:47 - Oct 2 by felixstowe_jack |
Strange my family came from Cork and were grateful for the opportunities afforded to us in the UK. In particularly the community in Greenhill and the Hafod. We never hated the British and always believed murder and terrorism are wrong. |
Do you mean the welsh people ? 🤷â€â™‚ï¸ | |
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| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 18:47 - Oct 3 with 678 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 08:44 - Oct 3 by Nortbankboy |
Give Ireland back to the iris h
And stop wasting our money over thete |
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| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 18:52 - Oct 3 with 673 views | Kerouac |
| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 18:44 - Oct 3 by Kilkennyjack |
If its not a war, then your old soldier is on a murder charge. |
Not at all, perfectly legitimate to use firearms against terrorists. | |
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| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 22:57 - Oct 3 with 626 views | onehunglow |
Save the tears first for OUR people on the British mainland who were slaughtered as they went shopping,pubbing or simply cleaning horses out. Few responsible were caught so yep,not in my name.No justice.
IRA were supported as they killed US .That British people support the IRA killings made me sick.Still does. | |
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| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 23:11 - Oct 3 with 621 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 22:57 - Oct 3 by onehunglow |
Save the tears first for OUR people on the British mainland who were slaughtered as they went shopping,pubbing or simply cleaning horses out. Few responsible were caught so yep,not in my name.No justice.
IRA were supported as they killed US .That British people support the IRA killings made me sick.Still does. |
Are you still stuck in 1975 ?
Its obvious that all killings are equally bad.
We have had 20 years of peace.
Do you recognise that achievement ?
Do you think British/English lives are worth more than Irish lives ?
It sounds like you do. | |
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| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 00:01 - Oct 4 with 619 views | raynor94 |
| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 23:11 - Oct 3 by Kilkennyjack |
Are you still stuck in 1975 ?
Its obvious that all killings are equally bad.
We have had 20 years of peace.
Do you recognise that achievement ?
Do you think British/English lives are worth more than Irish lives ?
It sounds like you do. |
Out of curiosity are you Irish or Welsh? |  |
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| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 01:04 - Oct 4 with 603 views | Nortbankboy |
| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 09:49 - Oct 3 by felixstowe_jack |
The people of NI wish to remain part of the UK it is their democratic right. Does not matter if you agree with it or not. |
Because most of them are Scottish protestant were planted years ago | | | |
| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 01:27 - Oct 4 with 596 views | Kerouac |
| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 12:27 - Oct 3 by trampie |
It's called 2000 years of Welsh history, lol.
The full title is - Land of my father's : 2000 years of Welsh history. |
Aaah, the Welsh Nationalist Gwynfor Evans wrote that;
The government recognised Welsh nationalism as valid grounds for conscientious objection, although this was not always put into practice. Of the two dozen or so people who refused to be conscripted on Welsh nationalist grounds, around half ended up in prison and the rest were fined. Those nationalists, like Gwynfor Evans, who refused to serve on religious grounds were treated more leniently.
The war was deeply divisive for Plaid Cymru. While some in the party wondered whether a German victory would be better for Wales, others supporters were hostile to Nazism and served in the British armed forces. Saunders Lewis' alleged anti-Semitism and fascist sympathies became a target for opponents of the party and an embarrassment to some of its supporters.
...do you expect me to take that book seriously?
I don't.
Have a flick through and point me to Gwynfor's source material for his assertions. | |
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| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 09:23 - Oct 4 with 551 views | trampie |
Gwynfor was a historian that was and is held in high esteem, that particular book is many pages and is not a quick flick through. | |
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| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 09:26 - Oct 4 with 546 views | trampie |
| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 22:57 - Oct 3 by onehunglow |
Save the tears first for OUR people on the British mainland who were slaughtered as they went shopping,pubbing or simply cleaning horses out. Few responsible were caught so yep,not in my name.No justice.
IRA were supported as they killed US .That British people support the IRA killings made me sick.Still does. |
Liverpool and Wirrel people wasn't it, where they think the bomb making factories were, Liverpool even voted in as their MP a guy standing for an Irish home rule party. | |
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| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 10:14 - Oct 4 with 532 views | onehunglow |
Wirral.
Don't forget Welsh boys served in NI as they have throughout decades. They were and are proud to do so.
You simply cannot kill British people on the mainland and justify it.
Ireland,like Welsh nats wouldnt have minded a Nazi victory as they thought it would break up the Union.
Ireland gave tacit support in the form of De Valera. | |
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| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 10:25 - Oct 4 with 523 views | trampie |
That is why Swansea people made such good spies in the war, people never knew where their sympathies layed. | |
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| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 10:36 - Oct 4 with 515 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 10:14 - Oct 4 by onehunglow |
Wirral.
Don't forget Welsh boys served in NI as they have throughout decades. They were and are proud to do so.
You simply cannot kill British people on the mainland and justify it.
Ireland,like Welsh nats wouldnt have minded a Nazi victory as they thought it would break up the Union.
Ireland gave tacit support in the form of De Valera. |
Welsh soldiers should not be deployed into war situations without the approval of the welsh government.
You seem to be suggesting that they were in the north of Ireland representing the welsh government or the welsh people. They were not.
Poverty in wales is the main recruiting driver for the British Army.
The right wing Tory fascists are taking the uk nearer and nearer to 1930s Germany. To suggest that the progressive modern inclusive nationalism of Plaid Cymru is somehow right wing Is quite bonkers. | |
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| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 10:49 - Oct 4 with 508 views | Boundy |
| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 20:09 - Oct 3 by trampie |
The British army was said to have killed over 300 people during the troubles, over 50% of them were unarmed civilians, 61 were children, only 4 soldiers were apparently done for murder and only served 2 or 3 years and then got back in the army (blydi hell can that be right ?)
What I want to know is how many did they kill as well when moonlighting for the loyalist paramilitaries when off duty ?
It's all shocking, not in my name as they say. [Post edited 3 Oct 2020 20:14]
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Yes there were deaths which shouldn't have happened but for over 30 years more than 300,000 British troops served in Northern Ireland during Op Banner , all armed certainly whilst out on patrol some deaths accidental some preplanned or some in the heat of the moment but as someone once stated “You can’t understand someone until you’ve walked a mile in their shoes.”
I note that you state that only four soldiers were convicted of murder, either that is a true reflection on the professionalism of the troops or major miscarriages of justices have been performed , I don't know do you ?
Regarding moonlighting are you referring to members of the UDR ? If so although I don't condone some of their illicit actions I can understand why they occurred . | |
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| Decision upheld not to prosecute soldiers in NI on 10:57 - Oct 4 with 505 views | onehunglow |
In a "war",both side know each other .
In a cowardly ,filthy,guerilla, conflict like Ireland,kids and women used to lure young soldiers to their deaths. Informants and families kneecaped or slaughtered .
This is what IRA did. Its not remotely laudable and the British soldiers showed unblievable restraint over the years.I would argue few other countries armies would have showed such restraint.
And yet,their filth saw army style funerals with the gun pre eminent.
Only the British could shaft the very people that protect them.
The Irish have far greater shame as a country,not least the wholescale,state sponsered child abuse over decades | |
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