| US election observations 00:34 - Nov 7 with 7031 views | CountyJim | Why do they pick old men Why do these old men need to have a little jog before they go on stage Why do these old men as soon as they go on stage need to point at people in the audience Why does it take so long to count old mens votes |  | | |  |
| US election observations on 21:26 - Nov 7 with 1021 views | DJack |
| US election observations on 21:19 - Nov 7 by Dr_Parnassus | That’s not what I said. I said they removed them after being told they didn’t comply with regulations. Didn’t they... |
Oh so now you are talking specifics and not in general terms. Well specifically they refused initially. |  |
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| US election observations on 21:37 - Nov 7 with 1006 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| US election observations on 21:26 - Nov 7 by DJack | Oh so now you are talking specifics and not in general terms. Well specifically they refused initially. |
What do you mean talking specifics? I made it perfectly clear. You understood it fully when you admitted I was correct. You only seemed to have a problem when I wanted you to confirm you were wrong. |  |
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| US election observations on 21:52 - Nov 7 with 1000 views | Jack11 | I am by no means a fan of Trump, quite the opposite but Biden is not a better outcome for trade or relations with the UK . The democrat leaders don’t have this special relationship view of us. Obama was particularly lukewarm to the thought of it and actually declared the US as having a special relationship with the French. For all his faults and there are many, Trump is a closer ally than Biden will turn out to be. |  | |  |
| US election observations on 00:55 - Nov 8 with 972 views | DJack |
| US election observations on 21:37 - Nov 7 by Dr_Parnassus | What do you mean talking specifics? I made it perfectly clear. You understood it fully when you admitted I was correct. You only seemed to have a problem when I wanted you to confirm you were wrong. |
Horseshit. I never admitted that you were correct because you weren't. You just wont admit that there have been illegal voting actions by Republicans. Contrary to law they posted ballot collection points and they were there for many days. Documented fact. |  |
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| US election observations on 00:59 - Nov 8 with 966 views | Highjack |
| US election observations on 21:52 - Nov 7 by Jack11 | I am by no means a fan of Trump, quite the opposite but Biden is not a better outcome for trade or relations with the UK . The democrat leaders don’t have this special relationship view of us. Obama was particularly lukewarm to the thought of it and actually declared the US as having a special relationship with the French. For all his faults and there are many, Trump is a closer ally than Biden will turn out to be. |
Biden will do whatever he is told to do, which of course is why he's there in the first place. |  |
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| US election observations on 03:17 - Nov 8 with 957 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| US election observations on 00:55 - Nov 8 by DJack | Horseshit. I never admitted that you were correct because you weren't. You just wont admit that there have been illegal voting actions by Republicans. Contrary to law they posted ballot collection points and they were there for many days. Documented fact. |
Your own post disagrees with you. You clearly conceded I was right. But backed down when I made you confirm you were wrong. |  |
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| US election observations on 14:07 - Nov 8 with 903 views | DJack |
| US election observations on 03:17 - Nov 8 by Dr_Parnassus | Your own post disagrees with you. You clearly conceded I was right. But backed down when I made you confirm you were wrong. |
So again I was right Republican Illegal Vote Harvesting. ...again they placed, illegal, harvesting ballot boxes around 9/10th and were told to remove them. Apart from one county they were still up on the 14th and maybe even longer. Your narrative is a fiction designed to fool people into thinking it was an error which was immediately corrected. It wasn't, they committed an illegal act, for at least 5 days and maybe more, and this act can come under the classificationof election fraud |  |
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| US election observations on 14:31 - Nov 8 with 899 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| US election observations on 14:07 - Nov 8 by DJack | So again I was right Republican Illegal Vote Harvesting. ...again they placed, illegal, harvesting ballot boxes around 9/10th and were told to remove them. Apart from one county they were still up on the 14th and maybe even longer. Your narrative is a fiction designed to fool people into thinking it was an error which was immediately corrected. It wasn't, they committed an illegal act, for at least 5 days and maybe more, and this act can come under the classificationof election fraud |
No it can't unless you can prove "intent" to not correctly process the votes. Which you can't and neither can anybody else. |  | |  |
| US election observations on 14:52 - Nov 8 with 894 views | onehunglow | Dr P marking homework now then. |  |
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| US election observations on 19:38 - Nov 8 with 870 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| US election observations on 14:07 - Nov 8 by DJack | So again I was right Republican Illegal Vote Harvesting. ...again they placed, illegal, harvesting ballot boxes around 9/10th and were told to remove them. Apart from one county they were still up on the 14th and maybe even longer. Your narrative is a fiction designed to fool people into thinking it was an error which was immediately corrected. It wasn't, they committed an illegal act, for at least 5 days and maybe more, and this act can come under the classificationof election fraud |
You are re-hashing that very clearly marked conversation. “It was illegal” “ which is why they removed them” “They didn’t actually” “Yes they did” “*Googles*... ok I accept your point on that” “So you were wrong?” “*combusts*” Lol |  |
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| US election observations on 19:59 - Nov 8 with 847 views | DJack |
| US election observations on 19:38 - Nov 8 by Dr_Parnassus | You are re-hashing that very clearly marked conversation. “It was illegal” “ which is why they removed them” “They didn’t actually” “Yes they did” “*Googles*... ok I accept your point on that” “So you were wrong?” “*combusts*” Lol |
It was illegal and they commited an illegal act of voter harvesting. They left them in place for days You pointed out that they removed them and I just accepted that without recourse to any fact checking. Then as you went on a conversation twisting action to present a false narrative I looked at it again - using an article I'd previously posted. Did the GOP comit an illegal ballot harvesting action yes or no! |  |
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| US election observations on 20:06 - Nov 8 with 842 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| US election observations on 19:59 - Nov 8 by DJack | It was illegal and they commited an illegal act of voter harvesting. They left them in place for days You pointed out that they removed them and I just accepted that without recourse to any fact checking. Then as you went on a conversation twisting action to present a false narrative I looked at it again - using an article I'd previously posted. Did the GOP comit an illegal ballot harvesting action yes or no! |
So you were wrong that they didn’t remove them then... was my question. |  |
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| US election observations on 20:17 - Nov 8 with 836 views | DJack |
| US election observations on 20:06 - Nov 8 by Dr_Parnassus | So you were wrong that they didn’t remove them then... was my question. |
We were both wrong. I, as they eventually removed them and you as they already knew that they were illegal and it was not a case that they then did comply after they were told the boxes didn’t fit the regulations/law? They even doubled down and threatened to expand them which was why I believe that it was a tactic to create misguided outrage. So did the GOP commit an illegal election act, yes or no? |  |
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| US election observations on 20:33 - Nov 8 with 833 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| US election observations on 20:17 - Nov 8 by DJack | We were both wrong. I, as they eventually removed them and you as they already knew that they were illegal and it was not a case that they then did comply after they were told the boxes didn’t fit the regulations/law? They even doubled down and threatened to expand them which was why I believe that it was a tactic to create misguided outrage. So did the GOP commit an illegal election act, yes or no? |
No, you were wrong. Where was I wrong? |  |
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| US election observations on 20:36 - Nov 8 with 830 views | DJack | Did the GOP commit an illegal election act, yes or no? |  |
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| US election observations on 20:38 - Nov 8 with 828 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| US election observations on 20:36 - Nov 8 by DJack | Did the GOP commit an illegal election act, yes or no? |
Happy to answer. But I’m clearing up the point I raised with you first, we are still stuck on you admitting you are wrong. In doing so, you said we both were. Where was I wrong? It was it just you that was wrong? |  |
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| US election observations on 21:00 - Nov 8 with 817 views | DJack |
| US election observations on 20:38 - Nov 8 by Dr_Parnassus | Happy to answer. But I’m clearing up the point I raised with you first, we are still stuck on you admitting you are wrong. In doing so, you said we both were. Where was I wrong? It was it just you that was wrong? |
Well first off you said " Are... helpful for those that can’t travel far to drop off their ballot." Which is wrong as anything that is illegal is NOT helpful as those boxes CANNOT be used. Secondly I pointed out that these boxes were illegal and you claimed "Which is why they removed them." That is incorrect as they've known that these kind of things are illegal for years. In fact they demonstrated this point when they were told to remove them they said that they would just remove the word "Official" from the boxes indictaing their knowledge of how the law is worded. Now back to my question which I will modify as you will try to weasel out and make it a much longer thing than it should... The GOP (in California) put out unofficial Ballot boxes for at least four/five days is this an illegal election act? |  |
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| US election observations on 21:09 - Nov 8 with 811 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| US election observations on 21:00 - Nov 8 by DJack | Well first off you said " Are... helpful for those that can’t travel far to drop off their ballot." Which is wrong as anything that is illegal is NOT helpful as those boxes CANNOT be used. Secondly I pointed out that these boxes were illegal and you claimed "Which is why they removed them." That is incorrect as they've known that these kind of things are illegal for years. In fact they demonstrated this point when they were told to remove them they said that they would just remove the word "Official" from the boxes indictaing their knowledge of how the law is worded. Now back to my question which I will modify as you will try to weasel out and make it a much longer thing than it should... The GOP (in California) put out unofficial Ballot boxes for at least four/five days is this an illegal election act? |
So to sum up.... only you were wrong then? As I said. As to your question, we don’t know if the boxes were illegal, it’s not a cut and dry situation. If they are then it comes down to their labelling, as opposed to the boxes themselves as they had the word “official” on them which seems to be the issue there. So there may well have been a label that falls outside of ballot practice... which is why they took them away. |  |
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| US election observations on 21:25 - Nov 8 with 798 views | DJack |
| US election observations on 21:09 - Nov 8 by Dr_Parnassus | So to sum up.... only you were wrong then? As I said. As to your question, we don’t know if the boxes were illegal, it’s not a cut and dry situation. If they are then it comes down to their labelling, as opposed to the boxes themselves as they had the word “official” on them which seems to be the issue there. So there may well have been a label that falls outside of ballot practice... which is why they took them away. |
Here you go with alternative facts again. It is not just the wording as I've previously mentioned ONLY the State can put out ballot boxes and these can ONLY go where the State designates. They were illegal full stop. |  |
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| US election observations on 21:35 - Nov 8 with 791 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| US election observations on 21:25 - Nov 8 by DJack | Here you go with alternative facts again. It is not just the wording as I've previously mentioned ONLY the State can put out ballot boxes and these can ONLY go where the State designates. They were illegal full stop. |
The Republicans did not "Harvest Ballots" full stop. The boxes may have been illegally placed, but you cannot prove that the Ballots collected would have been used illegally. So show us where the Republicans were actually doing something illegal with the Ballots or quit making stuff up. |  | |  |
| US election observations on 21:46 - Nov 8 with 782 views | DJack |
| US election observations on 21:35 - Nov 8 by A_Fans_Dad | The Republicans did not "Harvest Ballots" full stop. The boxes may have been illegally placed, but you cannot prove that the Ballots collected would have been used illegally. So show us where the Republicans were actually doing something illegal with the Ballots or quit making stuff up. |
I'm not making stuff up they illegally placed boxes for the collection of ballots. |  |
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| US election observations on 21:47 - Nov 8 with 782 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| US election observations on 21:25 - Nov 8 by DJack | Here you go with alternative facts again. It is not just the wording as I've previously mentioned ONLY the State can put out ballot boxes and these can ONLY go where the State designates. They were illegal full stop. |
Incorrect. The issue was the wording on the boxes. You really need to read your rubbish before posting it. I have warned you about that many times but you still keep falling into the same trap. |  |
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| US election observations on 21:49 - Nov 8 with 779 views | DJack |
| US election observations on 21:47 - Nov 8 by Dr_Parnassus | Incorrect. The issue was the wording on the boxes. You really need to read your rubbish before posting it. I have warned you about that many times but you still keep falling into the same trap. |
Nope. |  |
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| US election observations on 21:50 - Nov 8 with 778 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| US election observations on 21:49 - Nov 8 by DJack | Nope. |
Yep, and I suspect you know that now too. |  |
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