| Oven ready deal. 08:36 - Dec 10 with 4876 views | Nortbankboy |
Seems like Boris was lying again |  | | |  |
| Oven ready deal. on 12:07 - Dec 11 with 1692 views | Gwyn737 |
| Oven ready deal. on 11:48 - Dec 11 by felixstowe_jack |
As I said neither does the EU it never has . It just wanted to punish us for voting to leave. They never negotiated in good faith at any time. |
I don't disagree with you but I'd say that their stance was completely predictable.
The passion of Brexiteers for leaving is matched by those in the EU wanting to keep it together. | | | |
| Oven ready deal. on 12:56 - Dec 11 with 1659 views | CountyJim |
| Oven ready deal. on 11:48 - Dec 11 by felixstowe_jack |
As I said neither does the EU it never has . It just wanted to punish us for voting to leave. They never negotiated in good faith at any time. |
OK let's turn this around what's would you do if you were negotiating for the EU |  | | |
| Oven ready deal. on 22:20 - Dec 11 with 1594 views | Nortbankboy |
| Oven ready deal. on 12:56 - Dec 11 by CountyJim |
OK let's turn this around what's would you do if you were negotiating for the EU |
Level playing field.
Who wants workers rights not us according to bozo | | | |
| Oven ready deal. on 22:28 - Dec 11 with 1587 views | Catullus |
| Oven ready deal. on 22:20 - Dec 11 by Nortbankboy |
Level playing field.
Who wants workers rights not us according to bozo |
The level playing field isn't all about workers rights though and lets face it, the Uk has/had better workers rights than many EU states.
https://smallbusinessprices.co
We can only hope that no government reduces workers rights in the future and they actually give more protections. | |
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| Oven ready deal. on 22:43 - Dec 11 with 1574 views | majorraglan |
If it works out well then Boris and his colleagues can claim the glory, if it goes wrong, standards of living decrease, unemployment increases etc they need to be made to own it.
I read an article last night in which an ex minister indicated that if it went Pete Tong, Boris and his colleagues would look to shift blame to the impact of the pandemic. We don’t know what will happen, but reading that I was a tad more troubled. | | | |
| Oven ready deal. on 00:21 - Dec 12 with 1553 views | CountyJim |
| Oven ready deal. on 12:56 - Dec 11 by CountyJim |
OK let's turn this around what's would you do if you were negotiating for the EU |
Thought it was a difficult question | | | |
| Oven ready deal. on 00:53 - Dec 12 with 1544 views | Highjack |
| Oven ready deal. on 12:56 - Dec 11 by CountyJim |
OK let's turn this around what's would you do if you were negotiating for the EU |
I'd do whatever the hell I like because I'd be accountable to nobody. |  |
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| Oven ready deal. on 01:24 - Dec 12 with 1535 views | majorraglan |
| Oven ready deal. on 11:48 - Dec 11 by felixstowe_jack |
As I said neither does the EU it never has . It just wanted to punish us for voting to leave. They never negotiated in good faith at any time. |
If you want to talk about negotiating in good faith, Boris reneging on his deal etc is a great example.
It’s clear the EU don’t want to make it easy for us to leave, but I see why they are doing it.
How would you feel if you ran a business on one side of the street and you had a competitor on the other side of the street making and selling exactly the same thing as you do, but your competitor gets his business rates paid, his rent subsidised, an allowance for his staff, doesn’t have to comply with environmental standards you do and he also pays enjoys being able to pay less tax. As a result he can undercut you and sell at half the price you do. You on the other hand don’t get any subsidies, as a result your costs are higher and your selling price is higher - the result all the passing trade flock to your competitor.
The EU have set standards which they want to maintain for a variety of reasons including keeping cheaper products out to protect their own suppliers. If we deviate from the standards they are applying to their own traders and we aren’t contributing to the pot, they won’t let us sell in their market. Both sides want their cake and to be able to eat it, there is limited room for compromise and neither are prepared to yield. Both sides are to a degree cutting off their nose to spite their face, it’s just a case of which side is harming itself the most. | | | |
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| Oven ready deal. on 01:54 - Dec 12 with 1531 views | Slugster664 |
| Oven ready deal. on 00:36 - Dec 11 by DJack |
Cos there wasn't an oven ready deal and it's been a mare to get anywhere/nowhere. |
Good, I voted to have nothing to do do with the EU...no deal here we come  |  |
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| Oven ready deal. on 01:57 - Dec 12 with 1530 views | Slugster664 |
| Oven ready deal. on 09:54 - Dec 11 by controversial_jack |
The EU has not altered any of their conditions, despite the lies coming from the media |
Fair dinkum buddy, you are a controversial clown...why do you always post such nonsense? | |
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| Oven ready deal. on 02:00 - Dec 12 with 1528 views | Slugster664 |
| Oven ready deal. on 10:48 - Dec 11 by CountyJim |
How is it punishing us they want what's best for them we are supposed to be wanting the best for us
But as I said Boris doesn't want a deal simples |
Boris is doing what 17+m of us voted for...to have feck all to do with the corrupt eu! | |
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| Oven ready deal. on 07:35 - Dec 12 with 1507 views | ItchySphincter |
| Oven ready deal. on 01:54 - Dec 12 by Slugster664 |
Good, I voted to have nothing to do do with the EU...no deal here we come |
Can you a coherent sentence together as to why?
This should be interesting...... |  |
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| Oven ready deal. on 08:11 - Dec 12 with 1502 views | Nortbankboy |
| Oven ready deal. on 07:35 - Dec 12 by ItchySphincter |
Can you a coherent sentence together as to why?
This should be interesting...... |
Gun boats at the ready to protect our fish.
That's the way to negotiate boris.
What signal does that send out to europe?
What a clown is our little Churchill | | | |
| Oven ready deal. on 09:32 - Dec 12 with 1484 views | Highjack |
| Oven ready deal. on 07:35 - Dec 12 by ItchySphincter |
Can you a coherent sentence together as to why?
This should be interesting...... |
“Can you a coherent sentence together as to why?”
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| Oven ready deal. on 10:03 - Dec 12 with 1475 views | Highjack |
The EU commission has now banned the U.K. prime minister from speaking to the elected heads of government of France and Germany about the negotiations. | |
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| Oven ready deal. on 10:34 - Dec 12 with 1470 views | Gwyn737 |
| Oven ready deal. on 10:03 - Dec 12 by Highjack |
The EU commission has now banned the U.K. prime minister from speaking to the elected heads of government of France and Germany about the negotiations. |
I think that’s because there is an agreement to negotiate with the EU as a block.
This shouldn’t be a surprise. | | | |
| Oven ready deal. on 10:35 - Dec 12 with 1468 views | Fireboy2 |
| Oven ready deal. on 01:57 - Dec 12 by Slugster664 |
Fair dinkum buddy, you are a controversial clown...why do you always post such nonsense? |
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| Oven ready deal. on 11:54 - Dec 12 with 1451 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Oven ready deal. on 10:03 - Dec 12 by Highjack |
The EU commission has now banned the U.K. prime minister from speaking to the elected heads of government of France and Germany about the negotiations. |
I suppose it shows that the EU are actually awake enough to realise that an obvious divide and conquer attempt is being made.
Boris needs to be a lot cleverer than that and he probably isn’t. |  |
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| Oven ready deal. on 15:08 - Dec 12 with 1424 views | Slugster664 |
| Oven ready deal. on 07:35 - Dec 12 by ItchySphincter |
Can you a coherent sentence together as to why?
This should be interesting...... |
Oh the irony... | |
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| Oven ready deal. on 15:38 - Dec 12 with 1408 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Oven ready deal. on 08:11 - Dec 12 by Nortbankboy |
Gun boats at the ready to protect our fish.
That's the way to negotiate boris.
What signal does that send out to europe?
What a clown is our little Churchill |
Clear message to the French fishermen they wanted unlimited fishing in our waters now the have zero. Hope they are happy no doubt they will blockade the French ports in the new year. | |
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| Oven ready deal. on 17:49 - Dec 12 with 1376 views | Nortbankboy |
| Oven ready deal. on 10:34 - Dec 12 by Gwyn737 |
I think that’s because there is an agreement to negotiate with the EU as a block.
This shouldn’t be a surprise. |
You dont negotiate with gunboats.
We have a history of bullying small countries.
Boris making us look fool's by showing what he really is.
A English nationalist.
Europe is laughing at us | | | |
| Oven ready deal. on 09:35 - Dec 13 with 1340 views | Whiterockin |
| Oven ready deal. on 17:49 - Dec 12 by Nortbankboy |
You dont negotiate with gunboats.
We have a history of bullying small countries.
Boris making us look fool's by showing what he really is.
A English nationalist.
Europe is laughing at us |
Maybe they should stop laughing and negotiate properly. |  | | |
| Oven ready deal. on 09:59 - Dec 13 with 1331 views | majorraglan |
| Oven ready deal. on 10:03 - Dec 12 by Highjack |
The EU commission has now banned the U.K. prime minister from speaking to the elected heads of government of France and Germany about the negotiations. |
Boris is probably trying to “divide and conquer” because he’s not getting very far with Barnier et al and they want the negotiations to go through the team to prevent the “divide and conquer” tactic working.
All 27 of the EU countries has their own agenda, but safeguarding the jobs and living conditions of the 27 individual governments is a priority and they won’t easily be persuaded to allow potential competitors to undercut their own businesses.
I read in one of today’s papers that the contract for monitoring fishing activity in our waters has gone to a French company. I wish I could say it’s unbelievable, but sadly it isn’t.
The contract, just like the blue passport contract should have gone to UK companies, but they didn’t. Taking back control. Not. | | | |
| Oven ready deal. on 11:59 - Dec 13 with 1306 views | Catullus |
| Oven ready deal. on 00:21 - Dec 12 by CountyJim |
Thought it was a difficult question |
It's not a difficult question. If I was negotiating for the EU I'd do what the Commission tild me. If I didn't or couldn't do that then they'd replace me, simple really.
As any deal has to go back to be ratified by ALL EU members, even if Barnier and us agree on something it still might not be approved. | |
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| Oven ready deal. on 13:22 - Dec 13 with 1284 views | Highjack |
| Oven ready deal. on 11:54 - Dec 12 by Joe_bradshaw |
I suppose it shows that the EU are actually awake enough to realise that an obvious divide and conquer attempt is being made.
Boris needs to be a lot cleverer than that and he probably isn’t. |
Divide and conquer? These people are the supposed leaders of the free world, and they've been banned from speaking with each other. Don't you understand how ridiculous this is? It's not divide and conquer, it's diplomacy. Neighbouring countries are not allowed to talk to each other on issues that will affect their future. It's absolute nonsense and highlights what a massive barrier the EU is to any sort of progress on this continent. | |
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