| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? 09:53 - Dec 13 with 29759 views | A_Fans_Dad |
The actions of Governments all over the world are shaped on the basis of the PCR COVID test results.
For months now there have been serious question marks over the accuracy of the tests.
Well now there is a definitive study on the original research and it's world wide adoption which is totally condemning.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/
This does not decry the deaths that occur with COVID-19, but there are also many questions over the counting of them as well. |  | | |  |
| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 14:58 - Dec 26 with 1184 views | Jack123 |
Tell you what's odd the way they report cases, looking at this story here https://www.walesonline.co.uk/
This is taken from it:
Dunvant and Upper Killay has 66 cases, which translates to 1,174.8 cases per 100,000 for a rolling seven day period up to December 18 - the highest infection rate in the city.
I don't get this 1,174.8 per 100k why do they use this?
Seem's a strange way to show figures. |  |
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| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 15:06 - Dec 26 with 1171 views | Catullus |
| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 14:58 - Dec 26 by Jack123 |
Tell you what's odd the way they report cases, looking at this story here https://www.walesonline.co.uk/
This is taken from it:
Dunvant and Upper Killay has 66 cases, which translates to 1,174.8 cases per 100,000 for a rolling seven day period up to December 18 - the highest infection rate in the city.
I don't get this 1,174.8 per 100k why do they use this?
Seem's a strange way to show figures. |
Why? They have to display them in some way that's relevant to the population. Would 117.48 per 10k be better, or maybe 11.7 per 1000?
How would you do it? | |
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| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 15:19 - Dec 26 with 1162 views | Jack123 |
| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 15:06 - Dec 26 by Catullus |
Why? They have to display them in some way that's relevant to the population. Would 117.48 per 10k be better, or maybe 11.7 per 1000?
How would you do it? |
Surely the correct way to report the figures would be just a simple 66 cases and then the estimated population for the area in question, in this case a combined population of Dunvant and Upper Killay. | |
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| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 15:22 - Dec 26 with 1151 views | Catullus |
| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 15:19 - Dec 26 by Jack123 |
Surely the correct way to report the figures would be just a simple 66 cases and then the estimated population for the area in question, in this case a combined population of Dunvant and Upper Killay. |
Why? That gives no idea of scale compared to other areas. 66 cases in Dunvantand Killay could be huge or it could be nothing. Putting it as cases per 100k gives context. | |
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| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 15:26 - Dec 26 with 1146 views | Jack123 |
| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 15:22 - Dec 26 by Catullus |
Why? That gives no idea of scale compared to other areas. 66 cases in Dunvantand Killay could be huge or it could be nothing. Putting it as cases per 100k gives context. |
I don't get that, I mean the report is talking about a specific area, I see nothing wrong with reporting 66 cases then the estimated population for the area in question, not this per 100k malarky. | |
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| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 15:30 - Dec 26 with 1139 views | Jack123 |
| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 15:22 - Dec 26 by Catullus |
Why? That gives no idea of scale compared to other areas. 66 cases in Dunvantand Killay could be huge or it could be nothing. Putting it as cases per 100k gives context. |
Ah right, having read again, I see what you mean, the use of the larger figures is to compare to other larger cities. | |
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| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:47 - Dec 26 with 1087 views | shingle |
| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:55 - Dec 25 by Scotia |
No they aren't. |
Yes they are give or take, 10 or twenty extra or less here and there, there has not been a a vast difference for months. there has been no major increase in deaths from one month to the other | | | |
| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:03 - Dec 26 with 1081 views | Scotia |
| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:47 - Dec 26 by shingle |
Yes they are give or take, 10 or twenty extra or less here and there, there has not been a a vast difference for months. there has been no major increase in deaths from one month to the other |
No they aren't.
Apr 29th - 84
Jul 24th - 1
Dec 4th - 74
Just to point out the delay in recording deaths, despite 7000 (ish) cases which is in a hugely upward trend.
Dec 22nd - 7.
Don't forget you have to multiply those by 10 to get approximate uk figures. Before you consider other diffences. | | | |
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| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:04 - Dec 26 with 1078 views | shingle |
| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:27 - Dec 25 by Groo |
You missed this from a previous post I did, did you? or intentionaly ignoring it?
Lets look at some other figures, deaths since Nov 1.
Norway 122, thats 22 deaths per million population
Finland 131, thats 23 deaths per million population
Sweden 1968, thats 194 deaths per population.
1968 deaths attributed to COVID since November 1st. Low eh, it is isn't it, especially when you consider their neighbours had 122 and 131 .
I believe your just being a troll mate. |
Sill comparing a couple of smaller countries who locked down, lost thousands of lives due to not carrying our routine medical procedures whilst in lockdown which you never mention and lost thousands of jobs which you never mention, you just can not accept the Swedish death count has not changed much from month to month since at least May just accept they never locked down they have saved thousands far more than what they have lost through Covid by simply carrying out normal health care, and have kept there people working and still there death rate is not as bad as dimwits like you make out.
I believe you are a scaremongering idiot who spends to much time looking at charts. mate. | | | |
| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:12 - Dec 26 with 1076 views | shingle |
| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:03 - Dec 26 by Scotia |
No they aren't.
Apr 29th - 84
Jul 24th - 1
Dec 4th - 74
Just to point out the delay in recording deaths, despite 7000 (ish) cases which is in a hugely upward trend.
Dec 22nd - 7.
Don't forget you have to multiply those by 10 to get approximate uk figures. Before you consider other diffences. |
You have just put up a difference of ten between April and December well 10 less actually, yep the increase in the Swedish death rate is going through the roof lol, maybe you should increase your multiply by 10 estimate to twenty might make it look a little better for you. | | | |
| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:38 - Dec 26 with 1063 views | Groo |
| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:04 - Dec 26 by shingle |
Sill comparing a couple of smaller countries who locked down, lost thousands of lives due to not carrying our routine medical procedures whilst in lockdown which you never mention and lost thousands of jobs which you never mention, you just can not accept the Swedish death count has not changed much from month to month since at least May just accept they never locked down they have saved thousands far more than what they have lost through Covid by simply carrying out normal health care, and have kept there people working and still there death rate is not as bad as dimwits like you make out.
I believe you are a scaremongering idiot who spends to much time looking at charts. mate. |
Scaremongering charts, from the very site that you champion.
Smaller Countries?
Physical Size
Sweden 450,295 km2
Norway 385,207 km2
Finland 338,455 km2
Population
Sweden: 10,128,783
Norway: 5,544,769
Finland: 5,544,769
Density of Population
Sweden 22.5
Norway 14.4
Finland 16.4
Deaths per Million
Sweden: 789
Norway: 74
Finland: 88
Deaths since Nov 1
Sweden 1968, thats 194 deaths per population.
Norway 122, thats 22 deaths per million population
Finland 131, thats 23 deaths per million population
As I said your a troll |  |
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| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:39 - Dec 26 with 1061 views | Scotia |
| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:12 - Dec 26 by shingle |
You have just put up a difference of ten between April and December well 10 less actually, yep the increase in the Swedish death rate is going through the roof lol, maybe you should increase your multiply by 10 estimate to twenty might make it look a little better for you. |
I'm a bit amazed I have to explain this to be honest , look at graph for yourself. It looks a bit like an M.
You may have noticed the virus peaked in April and then again now, it petered out in the summer that is why I mentioned July too.
There have been many days when the UK equivalent of Swedish deaths would be in the mid 700's, cases are still rising and deaths will follow. | | | |
| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:52 - Dec 26 with 1056 views | Groo |
As I said he's a troll. He'll argue black is white just to be a dick. | |
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| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:35 - Dec 27 with 975 views | shingle |
| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:38 - Dec 26 by Groo |
Scaremongering charts, from the very site that you champion.
Smaller Countries?
Physical Size
Sweden 450,295 km2
Norway 385,207 km2
Finland 338,455 km2
Population
Sweden: 10,128,783
Norway: 5,544,769
Finland: 5,544,769
Density of Population
Sweden 22.5
Norway 14.4
Finland 16.4
Deaths per Million
Sweden: 789
Norway: 74
Finland: 88
Deaths since Nov 1
Sweden 1968, thats 194 deaths per population.
Norway 122, thats 22 deaths per million population
Finland 131, thats 23 deaths per million population
As I said your a troll |
Chart man just keeps putting up the same charts, comparing Sweden to the same 2 countries that have locked down, mentions nothing about the thousands of lives saved in Sweden compared to those countries who locked down by continuing normal health, care, mentions nothing about the destruction of the economy`s of countries that locked down and compare`s daily death rates with the same two countries whose people are so sparsed it would be a crime if they had terrible covid rates, but to sum you up as an idiot of the highest degree lets bring in little old Wales for an example and lets see how much better off they are,
Wales constantly having lockdowns and severe restrictions
population 3 mill or so
Deaths 3,500 appx
stopped routine diagnosis for long periods meaning god knows how many deaths will occur because of that, very important procedures like Endoscopy were practically brought to a standstill, livelihood`s destroyed etc the list is endless.
Sweden never fully locked down and implement far fewer restrictions then Wales.
population 11 mill or so deaths 7500 appx just over double the amount of Wales yet have nearly four time`s more people living in the country,
never stopped routine diagnostic treatment saving thousands of lives in the process, now try and take the whole picture in you numskull, look forward with baited breath to your next Norway and Finland chart. [Post edited 27 Dec 2020 18:52]
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| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:50 - Dec 27 with 972 views | shingle |
| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:39 - Dec 26 by Scotia |
I'm a bit amazed I have to explain this to be honest , look at graph for yourself. It looks a bit like an M.
You may have noticed the virus peaked in April and then again now, it petered out in the summer that is why I mentioned July too.
There have been many days when the UK equivalent of Swedish deaths would be in the mid 700's, cases are still rising and deaths will follow. |
Wales population 3mill deaths appx 3500
Sweden population 11mill, deaths 7500 appx 8 millions more people
One country in a constant state of lockdowns and severe restrictions
the other never fully locked down and implements far fewer restrictions and most impotently Continued normal medical procedures for all the other serious illness out there, surely you can grasp how many lives are going to be saved by that alone, i`m a bit amazed that your amazed to be honest. [Post edited 27 Dec 2020 18:51]
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| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:30 - Dec 27 with 948 views | Scotia |
| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:50 - Dec 27 by shingle |
Wales population 3mill deaths appx 3500
Sweden population 11mill, deaths 7500 appx 8 millions more people
One country in a constant state of lockdowns and severe restrictions
the other never fully locked down and implements far fewer restrictions and most impotently Continued normal medical procedures for all the other serious illness out there, surely you can grasp how many lives are going to be saved by that alone, i`m a bit amazed that your amazed to be honest. [Post edited 27 Dec 2020 18:51]
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A couple of things.
Sweden has a population of 10 million.
Wales has recorded 3300 deaths (for any reason) within 28 days of a positive test. Sweden has recorded 8300 deaths with covid on the death certificate so we over-record compared to Sweden.
They also backdate them significantly over a couple of weeks. So based on the number of cases I'd comfortably say there are an extra 500 deaths to be logged in Sweden over the last couple of weeks.
We've continued normal health services since the early summer wherever possible. Where it has stopped, it has been stopped by Covid not lock down and restrictions.
It's you're not your. [Post edited 27 Dec 2020 22:18]
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| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:04 - Dec 27 with 931 views | majorraglan |
| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 19:30 - Dec 27 by Scotia |
A couple of things.
Sweden has a population of 10 million.
Wales has recorded 3300 deaths (for any reason) within 28 days of a positive test. Sweden has recorded 8300 deaths with covid on the death certificate so we over-record compared to Sweden.
They also backdate them significantly over a couple of weeks. So based on the number of cases I'd comfortably say there are an extra 500 deaths to be logged in Sweden over the last couple of weeks.
We've continued normal health services since the early summer wherever possible. Where it has stopped, it has been stopped by Covid not lock down and restrictions.
It's you're not your. [Post edited 27 Dec 2020 22:18]
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Sweden covers a huge geographical area, it has a population density of 25 per km2 which is the same as Powys. There are pockets of both countries that are more densely populated, but it’s like comparing apples and pears.
Sweden has more people living in alone and in 1 person units, it’s also a high taxation country where anyone earning over £32,000 per year will pay tax between 39% and 60%.
Sweden also spends a lot more on health, approximately £5k pppa on health, in the UK it’s nearer £2.9k pppa and in Wales it’s approximately £2.1K pppa. From what I can see Health expenditure amounted to 70% of WGs total budget, so if they spend any more on health it means compromises elsewhere. | | | |
| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 18:25 - Dec 28 with 861 views | shingle |
| Has the world been conned over COVID-19? on 20:04 - Dec 27 by majorraglan |
Sweden covers a huge geographical area, it has a population density of 25 per km2 which is the same as Powys. There are pockets of both countries that are more densely populated, but it’s like comparing apples and pears.
Sweden has more people living in alone and in 1 person units, it’s also a high taxation country where anyone earning over £32,000 per year will pay tax between 39% and 60%.
Sweden also spends a lot more on health, approximately £5k pppa on health, in the UK it’s nearer £2.9k pppa and in Wales it’s approximately £2.1K pppa. From what I can see Health expenditure amounted to 70% of WGs total budget, so if they spend any more on health it means compromises elsewhere. |
Oh stop it mun what is the matter with you, simple facts are Sweden has least 3 times the population of Wales yet appx double the amount of deaths, there hospitals are not at breaking Point, a number of Welsh hospitals are, Sweden never locked down, Wales are constantly in a state of Lockdown or severe restrictions, and i will not again go in to the cancelled ops and medical procedures etc now that is all we need to know, Sweden is not worse off then the likes of Wales accept and move on, and please no more densitys and fruit observations and people living alone and what people earn ffs. | | | |
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