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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk 18:03 - Feb 1 with 3097 viewsNortbankboy

So all you anti Welsh on here calling Drakeford
The grinch who stole xmas.
Drakeford was right
Boris was wrong.

Cymru am byth
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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 18:13 - Feb 1 with 1595 viewsshingle

Swings and roundabouts there have been times when Wales have had the highest, lets try and stop being so dramatic there`s a good chap.
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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 18:19 - Feb 1 with 1573 viewsonehunglow

Why is "calling" Drakeford anti welsh.?

Why make this a nationalist issue?

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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 18:31 - Feb 1 with 1558 viewsJoe_bradshaw

Also Swansea is the lowest rate in Wales apart from Ceredigion (and sheep aren't affected) showing that we're behaving ourselves in our ugly lovely city.

Well done everyone!

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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 18:43 - Feb 1 with 1543 viewscontroversial_jack

Well done Drakeford. You have shown what can be done when a leader actually makes and implements difficult decisions
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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 20:09 - Feb 1 with 1495 viewsVincent_Vega

I’m sure I mentioned in another thread about a ‘I’m more welsh than you’ vibe...

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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 20:18 - Feb 1 with 1487 viewsCatullus

Hang on, who was it who cancelled Christmas? Was it Drakefords idea? Or did Bojo call it when the new variant came to light?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 20:56 - Feb 1 with 1455 viewsexhmrc1

Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 20:18 - Feb 1 by Catullus

Hang on, who was it who cancelled Christmas? Was it Drakefords idea? Or did Bojo call it when the new variant came to light?


It was Drakeford who introduced a lockdown on 20 December. Johnson didnt until just before the New Year. Drakeford made a decision on Christmas before Johnson. Johnson as usual wanted to keep things open and that is why the Welsh rate is so much lower.
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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 21:27 - Feb 1 with 1439 viewsKilkennyjack

Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 18:43 - Feb 1 by controversial_jack

Well done Drakeford. You have shown what can be done when a leader actually makes and implements difficult decisions


God Bless Professor Drakers.

Leader of the free world in my opinion ....🙏🏿

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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 22:07 - Feb 1 with 1416 viewsNortbankboy

Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 21:27 - Feb 1 by Kilkennyjack

God Bless Professor Drakers.

Leader of the free world in my opinion ....🙏🏿


We don't want this Kent variant to spread here
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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 23:10 - Feb 1 with 1388 viewsbuilthjack

Well done Mark. Leading the way again.

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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 23:18 - Feb 1 with 1374 viewsraynor94

Lucky Drakeford was forced into changing his mind about holding the vaccine back.

And thanks to Boris and the UK government in their exemplary work on securing so many vaccines, the rate should be driven down faster.

We are all in this together, it didn't take long for the Eu to show their true colours.

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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 23:34 - Feb 1 with 1368 viewsKilkennyjack

Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 23:18 - Feb 1 by raynor94

Lucky Drakeford was forced into changing his mind about holding the vaccine back.

And thanks to Boris and the UK government in their exemplary work on securing so many vaccines, the rate should be driven down faster.

We are all in this together, it didn't take long for the Eu to show their true colours.


Johnson got lucky with the vaccine emerging.

Without the science, the uk would be royally screwd.

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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 23:43 - Feb 1 with 1358 viewsraynor94

Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 23:34 - Feb 1 by Kilkennyjack

Johnson got lucky with the vaccine emerging.

Without the science, the uk would be royally screwd.


Lucky? We had been placing orders 3 months before anyone else, I call that forward thinking.

I bet their are a lot of people throughout the world, wishing their government acted with such haste.

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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 06:41 - Feb 2 with 1309 viewsNeath_Jack

Cymru, Pride of Europe.

Yma O Hyd.

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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 07:13 - Feb 2 with 1306 viewsScotia

Our current situation is down to relatively lower levels of the Kent variant. Drakeford called the lockdown at the right time time, but that doesn't have a huge amount to do with our current situation.
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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 07:57 - Feb 2 with 1294 viewsKilkennyjack

Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 23:43 - Feb 1 by raynor94

Lucky? We had been placing orders 3 months before anyone else, I call that forward thinking.

I bet their are a lot of people throughout the world, wishing their government acted with such haste.


No not the ordering aspect.

Simply the fact that we have a vaccine at all at this point in time.
Experts are useful after all then Mr Gove....

Without the science, we would be royally screwed.

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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 08:00 - Feb 2 with 1294 viewsScotia

Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 07:57 - Feb 2 by Kilkennyjack

No not the ordering aspect.

Simply the fact that we have a vaccine at all at this point in time.
Experts are useful after all then Mr Gove....

Without the science, we would be royally screwed.


Yes but that applies to the entire world.

What the UK government has done brilliantly, the best in the world in fact, is procure supplies and distribute it.
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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 08:26 - Feb 2 with 1278 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Rates per 100,000 since start of pandemic
Wales 6118
England 5966
NI 5506
Scotland 3304

Death rates per 100,000
Wales 186
England 156
Scotland 136
NI 112

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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 08:59 - Feb 2 with 1266 viewsDr_Winston

Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 08:26 - Feb 2 by felixstowe_jack

Rates per 100,000 since start of pandemic
Wales 6118
England 5966
NI 5506
Scotland 3304

Death rates per 100,000
Wales 186
England 156
Scotland 136
NI 112


Innit.

A confused, arbitrary and poorly directed lockdown "policy" against a far less dangerous variant than much of England has dealt with and we're still at the top of the deaths/cases table. How many more will eventually be on there due to us sitting on 200,000 vaccines for a month?

Congratulations Professor Drakeford. Bangup job. He must be grateful that Sturgeon is doing her level best to steal his limelight by f*cking up the vaccine rollout to even greater levels.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 09:10 - Feb 2 with 1263 viewsCatullus

Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 20:56 - Feb 1 by exhmrc1

It was Drakeford who introduced a lockdown on 20 December. Johnson didnt until just before the New Year. Drakeford made a decision on Christmas before Johnson. Johnson as usual wanted to keep things open and that is why the Welsh rate is so much lower.


That's not true, I saw Bojo on the news before Christmas saying the Bubble was cancelled.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opin

Johnson announced the new variant and all 4 governments cancelled the bubble idea. Wasn't thatwhat happened?
Until the new variant Drakeford was quite happy to follow Bojo's bubble and many people thought it was a bad idea.
All politicans got the Christmas plan wrong, the bubble was clearly bad and if this new variant hadn't been discovered for another week it would have been a disaster. We got lucky.
I can't credit any politician for that but I can credit the scientists who worked so hard doing the checks and bringing the information forward.

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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 10:05 - Feb 2 with 1231 viewsWhiterockin

Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 08:59 - Feb 2 by Dr_Winston

Innit.

A confused, arbitrary and poorly directed lockdown "policy" against a far less dangerous variant than much of England has dealt with and we're still at the top of the deaths/cases table. How many more will eventually be on there due to us sitting on 200,000 vaccines for a month?

Congratulations Professor Drakeford. Bangup job. He must be grateful that Sturgeon is doing her level best to steal his limelight by f*cking up the vaccine rollout to even greater levels.


Have to give Gething some credit here for his honesty.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-
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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 10:05 - Feb 2 with 1228 viewsexhmrc1

Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 09:10 - Feb 2 by Catullus

That's not true, I saw Bojo on the news before Christmas saying the Bubble was cancelled.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opin

Johnson announced the new variant and all 4 governments cancelled the bubble idea. Wasn't thatwhat happened?
Until the new variant Drakeford was quite happy to follow Bojo's bubble and many people thought it was a bad idea.
All politicans got the Christmas plan wrong, the bubble was clearly bad and if this new variant hadn't been discovered for another week it would have been a disaster. We got lucky.
I can't credit any politician for that but I can credit the scientists who worked so hard doing the checks and bringing the information forward.


No that isnt what happened. Drakeford brought in a lockdown here. At the time Johnson was bringing England out of lockdown and putting places in lower tiers than when they went into the firebreak. At the time the Welsh rate had been soaring and was the highest in the World and Drakeford acted. Johnson didnt because they had just come out of a months firebreak and at the time he acted the English rates had rocketed because they had found the new variant.
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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 10:09 - Feb 2 with 1227 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 08:26 - Feb 2 by felixstowe_jack

Rates per 100,000 since start of pandemic
Wales 6118
England 5966
NI 5506
Scotland 3304

Death rates per 100,000
Wales 186
England 156
Scotland 136
NI 112


I for one am tired of the idea that this is some sort of competition.

If you look at countries via geographies, latitudes, economies, population densities, age and health profiles etc. etc. they are broadly similar in outcomes.

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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 10:38 - Feb 2 with 1204 viewsVincent_Vega

Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 10:09 - Feb 2 by JACKMANANDBOY

I for one am tired of the idea that this is some sort of competition.

If you look at countries via geographies, latitudes, economies, population densities, age and health profiles etc. etc. they are broadly similar in outcomes.


This is it and one thing I've noticed about this whole saga is that the figures have a nasty way of biting you on the a$$ further on down the road. How many times have comments been made when Westminster is in a better place or wales or Scotland etc. etc. only for the opposite to be the case a month later.

Latest is the Vaccination process. Couple of weeks ago Wales were horizontal in the vaccine role out now they're catching up. At the minute the EU look miles behind but they will catch the UK and wouldn't be surprised if there's a role reversal in a month.

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Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 10:47 - Feb 2 with 1198 viewsCatullus

Wales lowest rate of coroavirus in uk on 10:05 - Feb 2 by Whiterockin

Have to give Gething some credit here for his honesty.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-


I was just going topost that. Thing is he says about hindsight but how many people on here were saying lokdown earlier and for longer? How many were saying the Christmas bubble was a bad idea? We didn't even have all the info.

In which case the Senedd cost more Welsh lives than needs be and Gething is using hindsight as an excuse.

Bojo, of course, was even worse. He waited 6 weeks after he was advised and still (later on) got the devolved govs to agree to Christmas.

It makes you wonder who was persuading him to wait, it wasn't the medical experts. Was Bojo, were any of the politicians swayed by corporate pressure?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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