| Lockdown Ending 23:06 - Feb 17 with 4125 views | Jack123 |
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
I wonder, I have seen some reports, as in grant yourself lucky too go to the beach in the Summer.
Personally, I say open everything up, at the latest end of March. |  |
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| Lockdown Ending on 23:11 - Feb 17 with 1887 views | raynor94 |
I bet this will be deleted by the morning  |  |
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| Lockdown Ending on 23:26 - Feb 17 with 1877 views | Jack123 |
| Lockdown Ending on 23:11 - Feb 17 by raynor94 |
I bet this will be deleted by the morning |
Oh, ok.. I guess you didn't understand what I was talking about. That is ok.
There is nothing to have a go at me, from what I have said, I'm just commenting on the mainstream media take on things.
And also the way, I perceive!!
If you want to add some gibberish, that is ok, I understand.
Hmm, that's a few times you have done that, without grasping the subject, never mind, I hope it makes you feel good. | |
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| Lockdown Ending on 23:36 - Feb 17 with 1864 views | Professor |
Remarkably what is set out in the Mail is a sensible and steady approach. It very conceivably would be enough to get by without another lockdown and the gradual removal of restrictions through into 2022. End all restrictions in March and they will be back by June. Boris has learned from his previous errors it would seem. And credit to him for doing so. |  | | |
| Lockdown Ending on 23:50 - Feb 17 with 1855 views | Jack123 |
| Lockdown Ending on 23:36 - Feb 17 by Professor |
Remarkably what is set out in the Mail is a sensible and steady approach. It very conceivably would be enough to get by without another lockdown and the gradual removal of restrictions through into 2022. End all restrictions in March and they will be back by June. Boris has learned from his previous errors it would seem. And credit to him for doing so. |
I'm sorry Prof, but we weren't ******(the * mean no swear words, just my anger) told this before Christmas.
Stay inside, do this, do that.
Just as a normal human being I can see the cases are dropping in the Uk, and van tam said before Christmas when he questioned on cases, he said something like 'unfortunately lots of cases, leads to hospital admissions, and thereafter deaths'
So why the hell do we find ourselves in a contradiction to what the scientists have said, after Chrimbo, cases are falling, so that follows less hospital admissions , less deaths..
But we are talking the summertime, rule of six to go to the bloody beach. [Post edited 17 Feb 2021 23:55]
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| Lockdown Ending on 23:56 - Feb 17 with 1845 views | majorraglan |
| Lockdown Ending on 23:36 - Feb 17 by Professor |
Remarkably what is set out in the Mail is a sensible and steady approach. It very conceivably would be enough to get by without another lockdown and the gradual removal of restrictions through into 2022. End all restrictions in March and they will be back by June. Boris has learned from his previous errors it would seem. And credit to him for doing so. |
Agreed, Boris and the leaders of the other 3 governments need to take a calm and measured approach to lifting the lockdown. We’ve come out hard and fast before and ended up in a worse position. Boris is carrying the can, if the deaths go back up the likes of the Covid Recovery Group will just fade back in to the darkness, loads of prominent Conservative politicians were having a pop at Boris well before he took England back in to lockdown in December. Boris needs to tell Baker et al to do one, hopefully by easing the restrictions in a sensible well managed way we can end lockdown once and for all.
I sincerely hope the days of 1,000 plus deaths are long behind us. | | | |
| Lockdown Ending on 00:03 - Feb 18 with 1840 views | max936 |
If Boris bows to pressure like he did last year, it'll again prove how weak he is. Last year he felt compelled to open thing's up to take pressure off the decision not to sack that piece of work that is Dominic Cumming's and ultimately off Cumming's himself. |  |
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| Lockdown Ending on 00:07 - Feb 18 with 1835 views | max936 |
| Lockdown Ending on 23:36 - Feb 17 by Professor |
Remarkably what is set out in the Mail is a sensible and steady approach. It very conceivably would be enough to get by without another lockdown and the gradual removal of restrictions through into 2022. End all restrictions in March and they will be back by June. Boris has learned from his previous errors it would seem. And credit to him for doing so. |
Well, we would hope he has learnt, otherwise we'll be in a right old mess again and many more could possibly die because of it. | |
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| Lockdown Ending on 00:18 - Feb 18 with 1829 views | Jack123 |
| Lockdown Ending on 00:07 - Feb 18 by max936 |
Well, we would hope he has learnt, otherwise we'll be in a right old mess again and many more could possibly die because of it. |
When you think about it though, it's a bit of a win win as far as some people concerned!
Lockdown for the next year, or open up, you just cannot tell.
My concern is the way we have been manipulated..
The majority have done everything right, to say pubs outside in the late April or be thankful to go to the beach in the summer, with rule of six or bubble or whatever is a fuc*ng disgrace.
They have proved their science is fraudulent, just by leading us down this path. [Post edited 18 Feb 2021 0:20]
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| Lockdown Ending on 00:20 - Feb 18 with 1827 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Time for a media frenzy on opening up. |  |
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| Lockdown Ending on 01:03 - Feb 18 with 1807 views | Jack123 |
| Lockdown Ending on 23:11 - Feb 17 by raynor94 |
I bet this will be deleted by the morning |
Anymore too add?
Anything at all to the subject?
I bet he won't reply.. | |
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| Lockdown Ending on 06:59 - Feb 18 with 1749 views | Dr_Winston |
One thing that has to open up is outdoor activity, as soon as possible.
Think it's been fairly well established by now that the risk of transmission outdoors is negligible and has been throughout the pandemic, even more so as the weather warms up. Dump the stupid "exercise from home" rule. Let people use the outdoors again. Open the golf courses and tennis courts.
Self-contained holiday accommodation, campsites, and outdoor activities can all open in March. Be a bit more cautious with pubs, gyms, restaurants and retail, although a lot of the "non essential" retail can probably start opening up now as well, with appropriate procedures. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Lockdown Ending on 08:23 - Feb 18 with 1712 views | Scotia |
The Mail road-map seems pretty sensible to me too.
As long as we get some decent spring weather life will seem much better within 6 weeks.
The key thing is enforcement of the rules from early April though. | | | |
| Lockdown Ending on 11:00 - Feb 18 with 1650 views | exhmrc1 |
| Lockdown Ending on 06:59 - Feb 18 by Dr_Winston |
One thing that has to open up is outdoor activity, as soon as possible.
Think it's been fairly well established by now that the risk of transmission outdoors is negligible and has been throughout the pandemic, even more so as the weather warms up. Dump the stupid "exercise from home" rule. Let people use the outdoors again. Open the golf courses and tennis courts.
Self-contained holiday accommodation, campsites, and outdoor activities can all open in March. Be a bit more cautious with pubs, gyms, restaurants and retail, although a lot of the "non essential" retail can probably start opening up now as well, with appropriate procedures. |
The problem with opening non essential retail is last time after the firebreak we opened up before England and loads came across the border to shop and Cardiff and parts on North Wales became flooded and was part of the reason the virus exploded.
In truth we could probably open up open non contact sports and things like parks without too much risk but it would help keeping the stay local rule.
As you say there will need to be more caution with pubs and gyms. Pubs in particular will need to be carefully looked at as people tend to congregate together on same tables. The 2 metre rule should be universal and foreign travel shouldnt be allowed. People coming back infected from elsewhere was the catalyst for the rise in September and since. | | | |
| Lockdown Ending on 11:07 - Feb 18 with 1647 views | controversial_jack |
| Lockdown Ending on 23:36 - Feb 17 by Professor |
Remarkably what is set out in the Mail is a sensible and steady approach. It very conceivably would be enough to get by without another lockdown and the gradual removal of restrictions through into 2022. End all restrictions in March and they will be back by June. Boris has learned from his previous errors it would seem. And credit to him for doing so. |
Does this mean that his previous mistakes that cost tens of thousands of lives have been forgiven? I hope you are not suggesting that? | | | |
| Lockdown Ending on 11:40 - Feb 18 with 1628 views | max936 |
| Lockdown Ending on 11:07 - Feb 18 by controversial_jack |
Does this mean that his previous mistakes that cost tens of thousands of lives have been forgiven? I hope you are not suggesting that? |
I'm expecting a massive inquiry over what has gone on when if, this ever settles down, which will cost many, many millions and last for yrs with no significant conclusion, like most inquires with paper work missing and inquiry going around in circles and plenty of sweaty arses covered , only winners are the legal teams and their businesses. | |
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| Lockdown Ending on 11:58 - Feb 18 with 1620 views | Scotia |
Surely the first thing that should happen, and could happen today, is allowing non-essential purchases from supermarkets.
I don't see the point in not allowing them whatsoever. | | | |
| Lockdown Ending on 12:11 - Feb 18 with 1608 views | pikeypaul |
shame,just when it was becoming the norm. |  |
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| Lockdown Ending on 12:48 - Feb 18 with 1588 views | raynor94 |
| Lockdown Ending on 23:26 - Feb 17 by Jack123 |
Oh, ok.. I guess you didn't understand what I was talking about. That is ok.
There is nothing to have a go at me, from what I have said, I'm just commenting on the mainstream media take on things.
And also the way, I perceive!!
If you want to add some gibberish, that is ok, I understand.
Hmm, that's a few times you have done that, without grasping the subject, never mind, I hope it makes you feel good. |
Give it a rest mun! It was meant light heartedly, hence the whistle.
Personally I think the lockdown should start to be eased from March | |
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| Lockdown Ending on 15:13 - Feb 18 with 1546 views | exhmrc1 |
| Lockdown Ending on 11:58 - Feb 18 by Scotia |
Surely the first thing that should happen, and could happen today, is allowing non-essential purchases from supermarkets.
I don't see the point in not allowing them whatsoever. |
That isnt fair on smaller traders though. It is a case of favouring large supermarkets over the little outlets. If supermarkets are allowed to sell things than so should other shops. Having non retail open hasnt caused a spike previously. The really massive problem is if shops are opened here and not in England then English shoppers will come here flooding our shops and increasing the risk here. This is what happened after the firebreak. It would be better to open in all UK countries at the same time which will probably be announced in 3 weeks time. Northern Ireland and Scotland are keeping their lockdowns on besides smaller children in schools. | | | |
| Lockdown Ending on 15:44 - Feb 18 with 1531 views | Scotia |
| Lockdown Ending on 15:13 - Feb 18 by exhmrc1 |
That isnt fair on smaller traders though. It is a case of favouring large supermarkets over the little outlets. If supermarkets are allowed to sell things than so should other shops. Having non retail open hasnt caused a spike previously. The really massive problem is if shops are opened here and not in England then English shoppers will come here flooding our shops and increasing the risk here. This is what happened after the firebreak. It would be better to open in all UK countries at the same time which will probably be announced in 3 weeks time. Northern Ireland and Scotland are keeping their lockdowns on besides smaller children in schools. |
I don't wish to argue but I think that is a myth, perpetuated by Drakeford's socialist agenda.
My Daughter, 3.5, has had a growth spurt. She's in need of basic clothes to play in. We usually buy them in a supermarket but can't, my wife actually got stopped in Asda today and told she could only buy clothes up to age 2. I would never buy those in a small retailer, in fact we're going to click and collect from Asda which will just be a needless extra trip.
In fact I can't think of anything I buy in a small retailer anymore, there are hardly any. There maybe in Cowbridge, Monmouth and Llandeilo but not Swansea. surely the small boutiques are for the wealthy?
A quarter of Asda is closed, the middle part of Morrisons and a third of Tesco - surely it's just squeezing people in to a smaller area?
I agree - I think the plan to open which was printed in the mail seemed sensible. I think it should be the same throughout mainland UK. | | | |
| Lockdown Ending on 16:49 - Feb 18 with 1511 views | exhmrc1 |
| Lockdown Ending on 15:44 - Feb 18 by Scotia |
I don't wish to argue but I think that is a myth, perpetuated by Drakeford's socialist agenda.
My Daughter, 3.5, has had a growth spurt. She's in need of basic clothes to play in. We usually buy them in a supermarket but can't, my wife actually got stopped in Asda today and told she could only buy clothes up to age 2. I would never buy those in a small retailer, in fact we're going to click and collect from Asda which will just be a needless extra trip.
In fact I can't think of anything I buy in a small retailer anymore, there are hardly any. There maybe in Cowbridge, Monmouth and Llandeilo but not Swansea. surely the small boutiques are for the wealthy?
A quarter of Asda is closed, the middle part of Morrisons and a third of Tesco - surely it's just squeezing people in to a smaller area?
I agree - I think the plan to open which was printed in the mail seemed sensible. I think it should be the same throughout mainland UK. |
A relative of mine runs a knitting shop so you think it is right for Tesco to sell wool why she cant. You have claimed in the past to be backing local businesses but now you seem to want to support large supermarkets. There are many other businesses having to close. It isnt fair to any of them to allow supermarket to sell the products they normally do. If you allow Tesco to sell clothes what about the likes of Primark or Sports Direct they sell cheap clothes. It isnt a level playing field to allow supermarkets to sell non essential items and expect others to be closed. It is either everywhere is allowed to sell them or nowhere. | | | |
| Lockdown Ending on 18:42 - Feb 18 with 1466 views | shingle |
| Lockdown Ending on 11:40 - Feb 18 by max936 |
I'm expecting a massive inquiry over what has gone on when if, this ever settles down, which will cost many, many millions and last for yrs with no significant conclusion, like most inquires with paper work missing and inquiry going around in circles and plenty of sweaty arses covered , only winners are the legal teams and their businesses. |
Now that is a valid point, but you also need a determined people who will not forget and make sure every avenue is explored to stop the elitist scum getting away with what they have done, sadly the British people are not of that mindset, they will moan, complain and pretend to care but at the end of the day they have an as long as i am alright Jack mindset. | | | |
| Lockdown Ending on 18:53 - Feb 18 with 1451 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Lockdown Ending on 11:58 - Feb 18 by Scotia |
Surely the first thing that should happen, and could happen today, is allowing non-essential purchases from supermarkets.
I don't see the point in not allowing them whatsoever. |
We can buy anything in our supermarkets.
Our local big Sainsbury is still selling all clothes, home wares, etc etc plus you can pick up anything you want in the in-store Argos. I bought some wine glasses and pans in there last week.
If they’re open they’re open. All that happens otherwise is Amazon are quids in. | | | |
| Lockdown Ending on 18:56 - Feb 18 with 1448 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Lockdown Ending on 15:13 - Feb 18 by exhmrc1 |
That isnt fair on smaller traders though. It is a case of favouring large supermarkets over the little outlets. If supermarkets are allowed to sell things than so should other shops. Having non retail open hasnt caused a spike previously. The really massive problem is if shops are opened here and not in England then English shoppers will come here flooding our shops and increasing the risk here. This is what happened after the firebreak. It would be better to open in all UK countries at the same time which will probably be announced in 3 weeks time. Northern Ireland and Scotland are keeping their lockdowns on besides smaller children in schools. |
We can buy everything in supermarkets. Clothes etc are all fine to get.
If you don’t allow it it simply favours Amazon.
I agree that the opening up needs to be UK wide though. | | | |
| Lockdown Ending on 19:26 - Feb 18 with 1433 views | Scotia |
| Lockdown Ending on 16:49 - Feb 18 by exhmrc1 |
A relative of mine runs a knitting shop so you think it is right for Tesco to sell wool why she cant. You have claimed in the past to be backing local businesses but now you seem to want to support large supermarkets. There are many other businesses having to close. It isnt fair to any of them to allow supermarket to sell the products they normally do. If you allow Tesco to sell clothes what about the likes of Primark or Sports Direct they sell cheap clothes. It isnt a level playing field to allow supermarkets to sell non essential items and expect others to be closed. It is either everywhere is allowed to sell them or nowhere. |
People could buy wool and knitting needles on Amazon or ebay. Very few people are actually waiting for small shops to open they're buying on line.
Do you really think clothes aren't an essential purchase? Shops have been closed for two months already.
If anything this policy is contributing to the death of the High Street its forced everyone to shop online.
If a shop is allowed to be open it should be allowed to sell whatever it usually stocks. Closing off parts of it is stupid and dangerous. I really don't think its doing anyone any good. | | | |
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