| Yanks good owners discuss 20:40 - Mar 16 with 6814 views | Swans9 |
We needed n9 cooper asked they said no. Before you hammer me I am a swans fan hang your head in shame yank lovers. |  | | |  |
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| Yanks good owners discuss on 06:12 - Mar 18 by jack247 |
Honestly think that if Morris hadn’t been injured, we wouldn’t have needed a striker. He was being phased into the team.
I doubt he’s have started against Watford if we went into that one level on points with them, but I’m certain he’d have been rotated with Lowe and maybe occasionally Ayew. With the three of them fresh we’d have had a great chance.
Appreciate that teams have stopped our wingbacks bombing on as much, which is a big part of our game, but bar the odd cameo from Cullen or Gyokores, playing without strikers has worked very well from the start of the season until quite recently.
Even now, until Tuesday, the performances had gone off a cliff, but we were still winning games. |
Cooper disagrees there then, he made it clear he still wanted a 9.
I disagree completely about you being certain he would have rotated with Lowe, especially not Ayew. I just don't think Cooper would have in my opinion. |  | | |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 10:36 - Mar 18 with 835 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 10:04 - Mar 18 by 34dfgdf54 |
It was 100% yourself when your username was E20. It was regarding the Siggy fee and Mesa. You used Transfermarkt then, and now you use Paul Daniels off Twitter who has three followers.
It was Brentford at home with 10 men. Are you using the Man City game as a stick to beat him with? He even looked sharp in that game in terms of his running with and without the ball, against the best side in the UK. What other games did he play over a half of football in? We are now seeing the effects of Cooper's lack of substitutions and lack of game management with our tired performances now. Andre Ayew even said there was tired legs everywhere.
Who brought Palmer in then? Cooper? Who brought Vik in? Cooper? or is the blame game for his lack of game management falling at Scott & Winter's door? |
I disagree, it wasn't me. Are you saying Keith is wrong then? Transfermarket tends to give total fees, including add-ons which may never be paid. If you think we paid 700k up front for Whittaker then you really are scraping the barrel in your quest to slag off our manager.
I am not using any stick to beat anyone with, I have no issue with Morris - he seemed ok. I am simply making the point that when we started him we lost. When he came on at half time we conceded 3 goals in the proceeding 10 mins. All other games he was here we won - apart from the Bretford game. So to say he should have started isn't justified.
I have no idea who brought Palmer or Cooper in. Neither do you. [Post edited 18 Mar 2021 10:39]
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| Yanks good owners discuss on 10:51 - Mar 18 with 822 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 10:36 - Mar 18 by Dr_Parnassus |
I disagree, it wasn't me. Are you saying Keith is wrong then? Transfermarket tends to give total fees, including add-ons which may never be paid. If you think we paid 700k up front for Whittaker then you really are scraping the barrel in your quest to slag off our manager.
I am not using any stick to beat anyone with, I have no issue with Morris - he seemed ok. I am simply making the point that when we started him we lost. When he came on at half time we conceded 3 goals in the proceeding 10 mins. All other games he was here we won - apart from the Bretford game. So to say he should have started isn't justified.
I have no idea who brought Palmer or Cooper in. Neither do you. [Post edited 18 Mar 2021 10:39]
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I'm saying the figures are there, from the source you once said was watertight. Fact.
The performances of Ayew and Lowe now are evidence enough to know he should have started. Ayew said himself there is tired legs everywhere in the dressing room. There is more than enough evidence to suggest players who would have made the side no weaker, in this case Morris, should have played more minutes and the performances now show that.
No we don't. Who do you blame for bringing in Palmer, who you say is a poor player, who brought in Vik, who was a 9 who Cooper said we haven't had "all season". [Post edited 18 Mar 2021 10:52]
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| Yanks good owners discuss on 11:51 - Mar 18 with 809 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 10:51 - Mar 18 by 34dfgdf54 |
I'm saying the figures are there, from the source you once said was watertight. Fact.
The performances of Ayew and Lowe now are evidence enough to know he should have started. Ayew said himself there is tired legs everywhere in the dressing room. There is more than enough evidence to suggest players who would have made the side no weaker, in this case Morris, should have played more minutes and the performances now show that.
No we don't. Who do you blame for bringing in Palmer, who you say is a poor player, who brought in Vik, who was a 9 who Cooper said we haven't had "all season". [Post edited 18 Mar 2021 10:52]
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I never said anything of the sort. I don't mind transfermarket, but as I said they don't tend to have a lot of info in terms of fees, they often go with a total package. Do you accept that it now seems likely it is 200k up front?
The performances of Lowe and Ayew say nothing about tiredness, certainly not at the time Morris was here. You are inventing things and comparing two different time periods. In your opinion Morris should have played more, the reality suggests otherwise. Again, the results during his stay show Cooper was entirely justified and the times he played a half or more we lost heavily.
Neither of us know who brought Vik or Palmer in, so how can we blame anyone? It seems you are on an insatiable quest to blame our manager with very little info at hand.
You have no idea how much we spent on Whittaker, you have no realistic alternatives, you didn't realise our results were exceptional with Morris on the bench, have no idea who brought these other players in.... but you slag him off anyway and blame him for all the above.
Madness. [Post edited 18 Mar 2021 11:53]
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| Yanks good owners discuss on 11:57 - Mar 18 with 803 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 11:51 - Mar 18 by Dr_Parnassus |
I never said anything of the sort. I don't mind transfermarket, but as I said they don't tend to have a lot of info in terms of fees, they often go with a total package. Do you accept that it now seems likely it is 200k up front?
The performances of Lowe and Ayew say nothing about tiredness, certainly not at the time Morris was here. You are inventing things and comparing two different time periods. In your opinion Morris should have played more, the reality suggests otherwise. Again, the results during his stay show Cooper was entirely justified and the times he played a half or more we lost heavily.
Neither of us know who brought Vik or Palmer in, so how can we blame anyone? It seems you are on an insatiable quest to blame our manager with very little info at hand.
You have no idea how much we spent on Whittaker, you have no realistic alternatives, you didn't realise our results were exceptional with Morris on the bench, have no idea who brought these other players in.... but you slag him off anyway and blame him for all the above.
Madness. [Post edited 18 Mar 2021 11:53]
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You "don't mind" Transfermkt, you had a bit more to say about it when there was a debate regarding Mesa and Siggy's fee at the time. The fee we paid for Whittaker would have been similar to, or more than what we could have got the players I quoted to you for.
If you don't think the performances of Lowe and Ayew indicate tiredness then you can't be helped unfortunately. The bloke literally said in an an after match interview the players are tired. Cooper then responded by saying they should suck it up. When did he play a half or more? Man City? If you are using that as a yard stick then as I said previously, you can't be helped. | | | |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 12:03 - Mar 18 with 796 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 11:57 - Mar 18 by 34dfgdf54 |
You "don't mind" Transfermkt, you had a bit more to say about it when there was a debate regarding Mesa and Siggy's fee at the time. The fee we paid for Whittaker would have been similar to, or more than what we could have got the players I quoted to you for.
If you don't think the performances of Lowe and Ayew indicate tiredness then you can't be helped unfortunately. The bloke literally said in an an after match interview the players are tired. Cooper then responded by saying they should suck it up. When did he play a half or more? Man City? If you are using that as a yard stick then as I said previously, you can't be helped. |
So you keep saying, I disagree I said that however, so that's something you are going to have to get over.
How do you know the fee we paid for Whittaker would be similar or more than the players you quoted. Give me some examples with some figures attached.
You said their performances showed that Morris should have started. That was inaccurate. You are comparing performances now to performances then. IF Morris was still here and you were making this point then I would agree. However there was absolutely nothing suggesting Morris deserved a starting spot when he was here and the results reflect that.
We lost the Cup game he started. He then came on at half time against Huddersfield when it was 1-1, we conceded 3 goals in the following 10 mins. If you think that shows results would have been similar on the incredible run we were on while he was here if he started, then maybe it is yourself that cant be helped? | |
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| Yanks good owners discuss on 12:27 - Mar 18 with 778 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 12:03 - Mar 18 by Dr_Parnassus |
So you keep saying, I disagree I said that however, so that's something you are going to have to get over.
How do you know the fee we paid for Whittaker would be similar or more than the players you quoted. Give me some examples with some figures attached.
You said their performances showed that Morris should have started. That was inaccurate. You are comparing performances now to performances then. IF Morris was still here and you were making this point then I would agree. However there was absolutely nothing suggesting Morris deserved a starting spot when he was here and the results reflect that.
We lost the Cup game he started. He then came on at half time against Huddersfield when it was 1-1, we conceded 3 goals in the following 10 mins. If you think that shows results would have been similar on the incredible run we were on while he was here if he started, then maybe it is yourself that cant be helped? |
I don't have to get over anything, I know that's what was said. End of story.
There were players there, which you asked for examples, which I gave, that would have been ready for the here and now, where the manager can't use a cop out excuse of "here for the future".
Lowe and Ayew's performances now show that they have played too many minutes. As I keep saying, which you continually choose to ignore, Ayew said himself there are tired bodies everywhere. We all know that.
You also continually forget to mention who we lost to in the cup game he started. Man City, best side in England. We could have swapped and had Aguero up tops and we were still going to lost that one. | | | |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 12:32 - Mar 18 with 774 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 12:27 - Mar 18 by 34dfgdf54 |
I don't have to get over anything, I know that's what was said. End of story.
There were players there, which you asked for examples, which I gave, that would have been ready for the here and now, where the manager can't use a cop out excuse of "here for the future".
Lowe and Ayew's performances now show that they have played too many minutes. As I keep saying, which you continually choose to ignore, Ayew said himself there are tired bodies everywhere. We all know that.
You also continually forget to mention who we lost to in the cup game he started. Man City, best side in England. We could have swapped and had Aguero up tops and we were still going to lost that one. |
Well you do have to get over it if I disagree. Its not relevant to anything. Keith and others have said he was signed for 200k, now you either accept that or you don't. One would have to assume by not accepting that based on nothing however suggests that maybe your agenda as opposed to common sense talking.
Which players are you talking about? How much would they have cost? You seem to be avoiding the question even though making the bold point they would have been cheaper than 200k plus the tiny salary Whittaker is undoubtedly on.
But resting Ayew and Lowe at a time when we were on an incredible run may well have altered that. Instead of poor performances now we could be looking at poor performances then. You are assuming that no matter which players played in the past, our results would have been the same.
Of course players are tired, that's football. I would imagine every team is tired in March. If they aren't then they either have not been working hard enough or have a massively deep squad.
I don't forget to mention anything. You said that we would have had the same results if Morris started, I pointed out that when he started we lost and when he came on at half time we shipped 3 goals in no time. Meaning your assumption doesn't seem to be based on anything at all. [Post edited 18 Mar 2021 12:33]
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| Yanks good owners discuss on 12:42 - Mar 18 with 772 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 12:32 - Mar 18 by Dr_Parnassus |
Well you do have to get over it if I disagree. Its not relevant to anything. Keith and others have said he was signed for 200k, now you either accept that or you don't. One would have to assume by not accepting that based on nothing however suggests that maybe your agenda as opposed to common sense talking.
Which players are you talking about? How much would they have cost? You seem to be avoiding the question even though making the bold point they would have been cheaper than 200k plus the tiny salary Whittaker is undoubtedly on.
But resting Ayew and Lowe at a time when we were on an incredible run may well have altered that. Instead of poor performances now we could be looking at poor performances then. You are assuming that no matter which players played in the past, our results would have been the same.
Of course players are tired, that's football. I would imagine every team is tired in March. If they aren't then they either have not been working hard enough or have a massively deep squad.
I don't forget to mention anything. You said that we would have had the same results if Morris started, I pointed out that when he started we lost and when he came on at half time we shipped 3 goals in no time. Meaning your assumption doesn't seem to be based on anything at all. [Post edited 18 Mar 2021 12:33]
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Or on the contrary, you're using different sources to suit your agenda as the previous watertight one claims differently to what you are trying to argue.
<<Elijah Adebayo made a deadline day move to Championship side Luton Town. The 23-year-old joined the Hatters for an undisclosed fee, reported to be around £250,000 and is set to face Huddersfield, who were also keen on the striker, this weekend. >>
Just one player there, good scoring record in league 1, give us a bit of the run around in their game with his pace and physicality. Just one "number 9" we could have got. Wonder how much of the £250k they spent up front? That's just one example. | | | |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 12:47 - Mar 18 with 770 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 12:42 - Mar 18 by 34dfgdf54 |
Or on the contrary, you're using different sources to suit your agenda as the previous watertight one claims differently to what you are trying to argue.
<<Elijah Adebayo made a deadline day move to Championship side Luton Town. The 23-year-old joined the Hatters for an undisclosed fee, reported to be around £250,000 and is set to face Huddersfield, who were also keen on the striker, this weekend. >>
Just one player there, good scoring record in league 1, give us a bit of the run around in their game with his pace and physicality. Just one "number 9" we could have got. Wonder how much of the £250k they spent up front? That's just one example. |
I have told you, Transfermarkt is okay, but it tends to show the total package and not the payment up front. Keith has said its 200k, another poster with contacts said 200k and a journalist who was one of the first to break the news of the bid said it was 200k.
I am totally willing to accept the total package may at some point get to 700k based on factors. So I'm not 100% sure what point you are making other than twisting something to try and make out we spent ''nearly a million'' on a player for the future.
That's unlikely to be the case, isn't it?
Elijah Adebayo scored 10 in 25 games in League 2, he has never played in league 1 as you claim. In fact he has never scored more than 10 in any season. 8 goals in a League 2 season was his best effort before that.
Can you show me the post of you championing his signature at the time? This smells an awful lot like Michu hindsight. He's scored 3 goals since signing and certainly doesn't scream out to be anyone we ''should'' have signed.
Any more? [Post edited 18 Mar 2021 12:55]
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| Yanks good owners discuss on 13:46 - Mar 18 with 752 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 14:05 - Mar 17 by Dr_Parnassus |
But you aren’t a football manager either, to know who is playing well, fit, played well together, plays well with another player, plays well in a certain position etc etc etc
To give views on one aspect of football management and then not on another claiming it isn’t your profession seems a bit of a cop out.
You keep using hindsight to say “we could have got so and so years ago for x amount”. That’s not the dilemma. The dilemma is we had 700k this year to sign a striker. Nobody can think of a single suitable player for us.
There is a reason for that. [Post edited 17 Mar 2021 14:07]
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Don't be such a child all your life, boy.
What's the matter with you? You want fans on a message board to come up with names to prove "your" point?
And when you've scraped this little barrel what will there be next? Fans to decide next season's budget? Who we should get in as catering? Maybe what colour to paint the new manager's office when this shithouse walks through the door? |  | | |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 13:49 - Mar 18 with 749 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 13:46 - Mar 18 by 9MilesHigh |
Don't be such a child all your life, boy.
What's the matter with you? You want fans on a message board to come up with names to prove "your" point?
And when you've scraped this little barrel what will there be next? Fans to decide next season's budget? Who we should get in as catering? Maybe what colour to paint the new manager's office when this shithouse walks through the door? |
Ha the cavalry have arrived, still irrationally angry about nothing at all? Interesting way to spend your life.
Yes I absolutely want someone to give potential signings when complaining that we should have made some. Just like I want people to give potential new managers when advocating to sack one, common sense.
I have absolutely no idea what your last paragraph is ranting about. | |
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| Yanks good owners discuss on 13:54 - Mar 18 with 741 views | onehunglow |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 20:47 - Mar 16 by Catullus |
Which would be good if we'd had one or two we could rely on. All we had though was Cullen, one for the future.
I think the Yanks are good owners, the club is financially stable. No point in playing like Barcelona if you end up close to bankruptcy! |
Well ,if we are looking to progress the club,I disagree.
They have not moved us anywhere near forward.
That said,money ha been squandered and I dont see them as doing that | |
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| Yanks good owners discuss on 13:57 - Mar 18 with 738 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 14:13 - Mar 17 by Dr_Parnassus |
No it isn’t though, is it.
Managers get given a choice of a few players and they pick which they prefer, that’s the usual way football clubs work.
If Cooper has the tools to bring in the resources and didn’t do it, then that’s a different story. But if you think Cooper was given bags of money and a free reign to bring in who he likes, as per your job description then you are on a different planet. |
Cooper has had, what, 4 windows? Blew a lot of money on loan players.
Players he knew.
Brewster and Gallager would have been costly. But anyway, that was last season.
We started afresh and what did he do? Decided to keep on an £80k a week player (never mind the paltry £21kpw for Toney) and wanted to play Jamal Lowe alongside him. A number 9, if you like.
In addition to that he went out and got ANOTHER no. 9 - Gyokeres.
So for someone moaning like a spoilt little rat that he's not had one all season then a) who's fault is that and b) wtf were Lowe and Gyokeres.
So, he then had a chance to sort this out in January and what did he do? He blew the vast majority of his budget on a player with no legs or energy and one that has cost us 13 goals in the last 8 games - not all his own fault in particular, but since Hourihane has come in and completely messed up the balance and mo-jo of the team, we've looked clueless.
In addition to this he then brings in someone he's talking about that should be playing with Jordi Govea and not really even training with the first team....
And that was AFTER the boy did more in 45 mins than Jamal Lowe has done for 8 weeks.
But what have we got the last 8 weeks? The same shithouse manager picking the same team and we've all watched us really deteriorate in that period.
Results haven't been too bad before that old chestnut gets churned back out.
But without performances, results will suffer. We won't get the refereeing decisions and luck we've had consistently for the rest of the season.
5 shots on target in 5 games, 1 a pen.
Cooper has strangled the life out of our players and we're getting found out.
He needs to change his thinking - if he can! | | | |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 14:07 - Mar 18 with 734 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 13:57 - Mar 18 by 9MilesHigh |
Cooper has had, what, 4 windows? Blew a lot of money on loan players.
Players he knew.
Brewster and Gallager would have been costly. But anyway, that was last season.
We started afresh and what did he do? Decided to keep on an £80k a week player (never mind the paltry £21kpw for Toney) and wanted to play Jamal Lowe alongside him. A number 9, if you like.
In addition to that he went out and got ANOTHER no. 9 - Gyokeres.
So for someone moaning like a spoilt little rat that he's not had one all season then a) who's fault is that and b) wtf were Lowe and Gyokeres.
So, he then had a chance to sort this out in January and what did he do? He blew the vast majority of his budget on a player with no legs or energy and one that has cost us 13 goals in the last 8 games - not all his own fault in particular, but since Hourihane has come in and completely messed up the balance and mo-jo of the team, we've looked clueless.
In addition to this he then brings in someone he's talking about that should be playing with Jordi Govea and not really even training with the first team....
And that was AFTER the boy did more in 45 mins than Jamal Lowe has done for 8 weeks.
But what have we got the last 8 weeks? The same shithouse manager picking the same team and we've all watched us really deteriorate in that period.
Results haven't been too bad before that old chestnut gets churned back out.
But without performances, results will suffer. We won't get the refereeing decisions and luck we've had consistently for the rest of the season.
5 shots on target in 5 games, 1 a pen.
Cooper has strangled the life out of our players and we're getting found out.
He needs to change his thinking - if he can! |
4 windows, sadly restricted in the main to concentrating on the season coming and relying on the loan market. Last season Brewster and Gallagher were some of the main reasons we made the play-offs.
He didn’t “decide” to keep Ayew, why would it be his choice? Did he decide to sell Rodon? Doubtful. Player sales are out of the managers hands, and so would a signing like Ivan Toney. There is zero chance the club would have sanctioned £5m to sign him, plus whatever signing on fees that came with him.
Did he go out and get Gyorkeres? Or did the club go out and get Gyorkeres? Did he sign Lowe or did the club sign Lowe? There seems to be a lot of assumptions made about who is bringing in players and then attaching blame to that. Unless we know who is bringing these players in then how can we attribute blame? I can say with confidence he wouldn’t have brought in Morris or Arriola, so what makes us think the domestic signings are any different?
We are in a period of poor form, nobody is denying that. It happens to most clubs throughout the season at some point. As you know, I don’t buy the “luck” argument, it’s lazy. | |
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| Yanks good owners discuss on 14:07 - Mar 18 with 733 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 13:49 - Mar 18 by Dr_Parnassus |
Ha the cavalry have arrived, still irrationally angry about nothing at all? Interesting way to spend your life.
Yes I absolutely want someone to give potential signings when complaining that we should have made some. Just like I want people to give potential new managers when advocating to sack one, common sense.
I have absolutely no idea what your last paragraph is ranting about. |
Just pointing out that it's not the fans job to do the scouting or tout player's names.
That's just a bit pathetic to even go there, but that's you all over.
There are literally hundreds, ,maybe thousands of players available during transfer windows.
To chuck names out there so some plank can say "he's on £35k a week and he's scored 2 goals" is laughable.
Cooper has only got one source for players. We all know that and it seems the well is now empty, so he then turns to the Agents who are touting their players around,
Unfortunately we got the zombie and paid heavily for him, monetary and on the pitch. | | | |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 14:08 - Mar 18 with 731 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 10:36 - Mar 18 by Dr_Parnassus |
I disagree, it wasn't me. Are you saying Keith is wrong then? Transfermarket tends to give total fees, including add-ons which may never be paid. If you think we paid 700k up front for Whittaker then you really are scraping the barrel in your quest to slag off our manager.
I am not using any stick to beat anyone with, I have no issue with Morris - he seemed ok. I am simply making the point that when we started him we lost. When he came on at half time we conceded 3 goals in the proceeding 10 mins. All other games he was here we won - apart from the Bretford game. So to say he should have started isn't justified.
I have no idea who brought Palmer or Cooper in. Neither do you. [Post edited 18 Mar 2021 10:39]
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100% it was you.
You always, ALWAYS quoted Transfermarkt for players values. Don't lie. | | | |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 14:09 - Mar 18 with 728 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 12:47 - Mar 18 by Dr_Parnassus |
I have told you, Transfermarkt is okay, but it tends to show the total package and not the payment up front. Keith has said its 200k, another poster with contacts said 200k and a journalist who was one of the first to break the news of the bid said it was 200k.
I am totally willing to accept the total package may at some point get to 700k based on factors. So I'm not 100% sure what point you are making other than twisting something to try and make out we spent ''nearly a million'' on a player for the future.
That's unlikely to be the case, isn't it?
Elijah Adebayo scored 10 in 25 games in League 2, he has never played in league 1 as you claim. In fact he has never scored more than 10 in any season. 8 goals in a League 2 season was his best effort before that.
Can you show me the post of you championing his signature at the time? This smells an awful lot like Michu hindsight. He's scored 3 goals since signing and certainly doesn't scream out to be anyone we ''should'' have signed.
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We needed a player NOW.
I like Whittaker, this isn't a slight on him. But the cop out of "one for the future" doesn't wash, not one bit, especially when the "we are skint" excuses come out.
There were players there. Ready. | | | |
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| Yanks good owners discuss on 14:08 - Mar 18 by 9MilesHigh |
100% it was you.
You always, ALWAYS quoted Transfermarkt for players values. Don't lie. |
Nope, wrong.
You are confusing me with your other mate Shaky, in fact I used to laugh at him for using transfermarket.
Although as it happens it actually seems pretty good. Maybe he wasn’t as mad as I thought he was.
However Whittaker clearly didn’t get bought for 700k, did he? [Post edited 18 Mar 2021 14:14]
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| Yanks good owners discuss on 14:13 - Mar 18 with 721 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 14:09 - Mar 18 by 34dfgdf54 |
We needed a player NOW.
I like Whittaker, this isn't a slight on him. But the cop out of "one for the future" doesn't wash, not one bit, especially when the "we are skint" excuses come out.
There were players there. Ready. |
And Cooper knows this. Which is why he is probably as disappointed as you are that we weren’t able to get a striker in.
You are laying blame in the wrong place, blame our owners if you dislike the Whittaker signing. Although we would have needed a crystal ball to know we would be without Morris for the rest of the season.
What players were there ready? I’m yet to see any feasible or affordable player that made obvious sense to sign. The best name you have come up with is a league 2 punt with a patchy scoring record. Certainly not someone that stands out as someone we should have brought in. | |
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| Yanks good owners discuss on 14:17 - Mar 18 with 717 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 14:07 - Mar 18 by Dr_Parnassus |
4 windows, sadly restricted in the main to concentrating on the season coming and relying on the loan market. Last season Brewster and Gallagher were some of the main reasons we made the play-offs.
He didn’t “decide” to keep Ayew, why would it be his choice? Did he decide to sell Rodon? Doubtful. Player sales are out of the managers hands, and so would a signing like Ivan Toney. There is zero chance the club would have sanctioned £5m to sign him, plus whatever signing on fees that came with him.
Did he go out and get Gyorkeres? Or did the club go out and get Gyorkeres? Did he sign Lowe or did the club sign Lowe? There seems to be a lot of assumptions made about who is bringing in players and then attaching blame to that. Unless we know who is bringing these players in then how can we attribute blame? I can say with confidence he wouldn’t have brought in Morris or Arriola, so what makes us think the domestic signings are any different?
We are in a period of poor form, nobody is denying that. It happens to most clubs throughout the season at some point. As you know, I don’t buy the “luck” argument, it’s lazy. |
It is very clear with the petulant Cooper who's signings are who's.
He's as transparent as the Brisbane water.
And this is what managers do you see mate... You know, if Ayew is in the plans, then he stays, if he's not, then he's told to find another club.
Cooper wanted him and has tried to build a side around him. What other clubs have the luxury of an £80pw player?
Roberts, Matty, Bidwell, Manning, Jay, Lowe, Cabango, Rodon for 18 months, Naughton in addition.
These aren't mugs in this league. They would walk into most other Championship clubs. That's where our budget is going.
And it's a team that Cooper wanted to keep hold of. No arguments for that.
This squad of players are very capable, they can play football, proper attacking football. But Cooper strangles them and flogs the shite out of them.
To not even try mixing it up after Jan is proving to be criminal. | | | |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 14:18 - Mar 18 with 715 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 14:13 - Mar 18 by Dr_Parnassus |
And Cooper knows this. Which is why he is probably as disappointed as you are that we weren’t able to get a striker in.
You are laying blame in the wrong place, blame our owners if you dislike the Whittaker signing. Although we would have needed a crystal ball to know we would be without Morris for the rest of the season.
What players were there ready? I’m yet to see any feasible or affordable player that made obvious sense to sign. The best name you have come up with is a league 2 punt with a patchy scoring record. Certainly not someone that stands out as someone we should have brought in. |
I've given you names. He's an out and out 9. Charlie Austin, out and out 9.
I don't mind Whittaker, I like it that we signed him, then play him because the excuses coming over and over from Cooper saying we have never had a 9 is becoming excruciating. We have a very good squad of players, pleading poverty isn't fooling no one apart from yourself and Keith Cooper aka AndyCole | | | |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 14:19 - Mar 18 with 714 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 14:10 - Mar 18 by Dr_Parnassus |
Nope, wrong.
You are confusing me with your other mate Shaky, in fact I used to laugh at him for using transfermarket.
Although as it happens it actually seems pretty good. Maybe he wasn’t as mad as I thought he was.
However Whittaker clearly didn’t get bought for 700k, did he? [Post edited 18 Mar 2021 14:14]
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100% you but not surprised you try and lie about it. | | | |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 14:21 - Mar 18 with 709 views | 9MilesHigh |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 14:13 - Mar 18 by Dr_Parnassus |
And Cooper knows this. Which is why he is probably as disappointed as you are that we weren’t able to get a striker in.
You are laying blame in the wrong place, blame our owners if you dislike the Whittaker signing. Although we would have needed a crystal ball to know we would be without Morris for the rest of the season.
What players were there ready? I’m yet to see any feasible or affordable player that made obvious sense to sign. The best name you have come up with is a league 2 punt with a patchy scoring record. Certainly not someone that stands out as someone we should have brought in. |
Give me a list of every EPL U23 striker.
Eredivisie
Scotland
Italy
Spain....
you get the drift...
And then every striker who's not getting the games that he wants somewhere...
then you'll have you list.
Grow up. | | | |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 14:24 - Mar 18 with 703 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Yanks good owners discuss on 14:17 - Mar 18 by 9MilesHigh |
It is very clear with the petulant Cooper who's signings are who's.
He's as transparent as the Brisbane water.
And this is what managers do you see mate... You know, if Ayew is in the plans, then he stays, if he's not, then he's told to find another club.
Cooper wanted him and has tried to build a side around him. What other clubs have the luxury of an £80pw player?
Roberts, Matty, Bidwell, Manning, Jay, Lowe, Cabango, Rodon for 18 months, Naughton in addition.
These aren't mugs in this league. They would walk into most other Championship clubs. That's where our budget is going.
And it's a team that Cooper wanted to keep hold of. No arguments for that.
This squad of players are very capable, they can play football, proper attacking football. But Cooper strangles them and flogs the shite out of them.
To not even try mixing it up after Jan is proving to be criminal. |
It’s not clear, that’s the point. If they are his signings then it’s likely he will play them.
Is Brisbane water any less transparent than any other water? I hadn’t noticed.
You think Cooper has the power of whether Ayew stayed or left? Really? I don’t believe for a second you think that. Of course Cooper wanted him to stay, he is one of the best players in the Championship, however wanting him to stay and having any say in the matter are very different animals.
We are no mugs at all, I agree. But we also aren’t the best side in the league or even close to. We are performing well above our talent levels. This is a play off squad, not an automatic place squad. If we go up in the autos it would be quite unbelievable, the fact we are still in the mix with so few games left is stunning.
But I don’t for a second believe we will achieve it, nor have I at any point in the season. Other teams are simply better than us and that tends to play out over the course of a season. | |
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