| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. 07:24 - Aug 2 with 5517 views | trampie |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 10:28 - Aug 2 with 701 views | ItchySphincter |
| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 09:41 - Aug 2 by JACKMANANDBOY |
It's easy to get labelled as far right these days on here, just disagree with someone. |
Maybe that has something to do with the many posts attacking the liberal, leftie, snowflakes, and the Tory supporting Bodger fanbois, etc. Not arguing, just an observation. I don't care about his politics but being as he puts it out there I'd rather this than a raving Conservative. |  |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 10:31 - Aug 2 with 686 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 10:28 - Aug 2 by ItchySphincter |
Maybe that has something to do with the many posts attacking the liberal, leftie, snowflakes, and the Tory supporting Bodger fanbois, etc. Not arguing, just an observation. I don't care about his politics but being as he puts it out there I'd rather this than a raving Conservative. |
Criticising a ridiculous leftist point of view, such as “communism is the way forward”.
Or the ridiculous notion that racism is found in every facet of life, even a front lawn…
Doesn’t mean someone is far right. It probably just means they are sensible. |  |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 10:35 - Aug 2 with 667 views | ItchySphincter |
| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 10:31 - Aug 2 by Dr_Parnassus |
Criticising a ridiculous leftist point of view, such as “communism is the way forward”.
Or the ridiculous notion that racism is found in every facet of life, even a front lawn…
Doesn’t mean someone is far right. It probably just means they are sensible. |
Did you quote me on purpose there? I don't think you have being as they're not relevant to my post or any views I've espoused. | |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 10:38 - Aug 2 with 664 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 10:35 - Aug 2 by ItchySphincter |
Did you quote me on purpose there? I don't think you have being as they're not relevant to my post or any views I've espoused. |
Yes quite intentionally.
You said people are labelled far right because they attack “leftie” and “liberal” talking points.
I made the point that some of these talking points are ludicrous and laid a few out for you as examples.
Speaking out against those ludicrous notions doesn’t make you far right. | |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 10:40 - Aug 2 with 663 views | ItchySphincter |
| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 10:38 - Aug 2 by Dr_Parnassus |
Yes quite intentionally.
You said people are labelled far right because they attack “leftie” and “liberal” talking points.
I made the point that some of these talking points are ludicrous and laid a few out for you as examples.
Speaking out against those ludicrous notions doesn’t make you far right. |
And equally not being a Tory loving Brexidiot doesn't make me a leftie.  | |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 10:46 - Aug 2 with 657 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 10:40 - Aug 2 by ItchySphincter |
And equally not being a Tory loving Brexidiot doesn't make me a leftie. |
Being labelled “a leftie” and being “far right” isn’t a balanced trade off.
I’ve been called right wing many times. I’m not bothered what side of the political divide people view my options as. The issue is the liberal use of the “far” right label.
Being called a leftie and being a left wing extremist isn’t the same thing. | |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 10:53 - Aug 2 with 646 views | ItchySphincter |
| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 10:46 - Aug 2 by Dr_Parnassus |
Being labelled “a leftie” and being “far right” isn’t a balanced trade off.
I’ve been called right wing many times. I’m not bothered what side of the political divide people view my options as. The issue is the liberal use of the “far” right label.
Being called a leftie and being a left wing extremist isn’t the same thing. |
You need to tell that to the people who call you 'far right'. | |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 10:55 - Aug 2 with 643 views | magicdaps10 |
I don't care what he is along as he does his best for the club, himself and family.
I will judge him in time and like everyone he has a clean slate from the start.
I must add to this post that I never take someone calling themselves as a nice person as granted and in fact makes me question why an individual has to make this point about themselves..... I find that if someone is decent then they don't need to tell others about it and are decent enough to let others find out about them using their own judgement.
Peace out 🤙 |  |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:05 - Aug 2 with 620 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 10:53 - Aug 2 by ItchySphincter |
You need to tell that to the people who call you 'far right'. |
Why do I need to tell them that? I’m having the discussion with you not them.
You said people are called far right because they criticise leftist talking points and label the people that expose them as “leftie”.
I was telling you that some of those talking points are nonsensical, both logically and demonstrably. So your logic of justification is misplaced as it seems those people would be more sensible than “far right”. | |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:05 - Aug 2 with 620 views | Kilkennyjack |
“Team spirit is a form of socialism. I'm my own politics — I don't go in for politics. ... “The socialism I believe in is everybody working for the same goal and everybody having a share in the rewards. That's how I see football, that's how I see life.”
Bill Shankly.
That will do for me.
Our club is for everyone. |  |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:07 - Aug 2 with 617 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:05 - Aug 2 by Kilkennyjack |
“Team spirit is a form of socialism. I'm my own politics — I don't go in for politics. ... “The socialism I believe in is everybody working for the same goal and everybody having a share in the rewards. That's how I see football, that's how I see life.”
Bill Shankly.
That will do for me.
Our club is for everyone. |
Team spirit is not socialism.
He was right to not go into politics as he didn’t sound like he knew what he was talking about.
I can only assume he and the players all decided to take the same wage as the local steel workers or dock workers?
Course they didn’t. The majority of people that talk about socialism positively have zero clue what it means. | |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:10 - Aug 2 with 615 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:07 - Aug 2 by Dr_Parnassus |
Team spirit is not socialism.
He was right to not go into politics as he didn’t sound like he knew what he was talking about.
I can only assume he and the players all decided to take the same wage as the local steel workers or dock workers?
Course they didn’t. The majority of people that talk about socialism positively have zero clue what it means. |
Great manager though.
You ever tried it ? | |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:14 - Aug 2 with 608 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:10 - Aug 2 by Kilkennyjack |
Great manager though.
You ever tried it ? |
Ever tried what? Socialism?
No.
For the same reason I haven’t tried heroin. History and common sense tells you that it’s damaging on every single level. | |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:17 - Aug 2 with 609 views | ItchySphincter |
| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:05 - Aug 2 by Dr_Parnassus |
Why do I need to tell them that? I’m having the discussion with you not them.
You said people are called far right because they criticise leftist talking points and label the people that expose them as “leftie”.
I was telling you that some of those talking points are nonsensical, both logically and demonstrably. So your logic of justification is misplaced as it seems those people would be more sensible than “far right”. |
Well I didn't say that exactly, but the point remains - I really don't care what people call you but if you want to keep bleating on about it take it up with them not me. | |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:17 - Aug 2 with 609 views | Lohengrin |
| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:05 - Aug 2 by Kilkennyjack |
“Team spirit is a form of socialism. I'm my own politics — I don't go in for politics. ... “The socialism I believe in is everybody working for the same goal and everybody having a share in the rewards. That's how I see football, that's how I see life.”
Bill Shankly.
That will do for me.
Our club is for everyone. |
I doubt old Bill would be with you there, Killy. He famously had no time at all for foreigners. |  |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:21 - Aug 2 with 603 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:17 - Aug 2 by ItchySphincter |
Well I didn't say that exactly, but the point remains - I really don't care what people call you but if you want to keep bleating on about it take it up with them not me. |
I don’t care what people call me, I just told you that. Not sure why you keep wanting me to talk to others when I’m clearly responding to what you just typed.
My post was in response to you stating what may be the cause of people being labelled far right. Your explanation was that those people may have called others “leftie” and a whole host of other words for what would be espousing wild leftist ideology.
I am telling you that disagreeing with these wild notions doesn’t make you far right so that being a justification to be labelled that way would be odd.
If you just said it for effect as opposed to raising a point you were happy to discuss then that’s fine too. [Post edited 2 Aug 2021 11:22]
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:40 - Aug 2 with 575 views | ItchySphincter |
Well if you don't care I'm not sure why you're going on about it. My post was an observation and a possible answer to a question raised by someone else. There was nothing presented as fact in my post so you really don't need to go out of your way to convince me that you're not far right. I really don't care so just be comfortable with what you are and don't worry about what I think. For some reason a thread about Russel Martin has turned in to a thread about you.  | |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:41 - Aug 2 with 573 views | trampie |
Socialism is not Communism, under socialism citizens share economic resources allocated by a democratically elected government, socialism allows for the continued existence of capitalism, under socialism people still own property and goods. | |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:42 - Aug 2 with 567 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:40 - Aug 2 by ItchySphincter |
Well if you don't care I'm not sure why you're going on about it. My post was an observation and a possible answer to a question raised by someone else. There was nothing presented as fact in my post so you really don't need to go out of your way to convince me that you're not far right. I really don't care so just be comfortable with what you are and don't worry about what I think. For some reason a thread about Russel Martin has turned in to a thread about you. |
Not sure what you mean by “going on about it”. I was simply replying to you.
You made an observation regarding a possible reason, I responded to that reasoning by telling you that it didn’t really make sense as a reason.
This thread has become about you as much as it has about me. You brought up a view that you clearly didn’t want to be discussed, which is odd.
What an odd exchange. | |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:46 - Aug 2 with 557 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:41 - Aug 2 by trampie |
Socialism is not Communism, under socialism citizens share economic resources allocated by a democratically elected government, socialism allows for the continued existence of capitalism, under socialism people still own property and goods. |
Any examples of countries that have implemented socialism and it working long term?
There isn’t, to save you a search. | |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:50 - Aug 2 with 553 views | Lohengrin |
| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:41 - Aug 2 by trampie |
Socialism is not Communism, under socialism citizens share economic resources allocated by a democratically elected government, socialism allows for the continued existence of capitalism, under socialism people still own property and goods. |
Which of the 57 varieties of Socialism are you describing there? | |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:55 - Aug 2 with 536 views | Catullus |
| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 07:52 - Aug 2 by Ajack_Kerouac |
His job is to coach a football team, if he’s here to do politics he should stand as the Green candidate in the local elections and we’ll find a football coach. |
On this we completely agree. Unless our new boss is an extremist, a nazi, white supremacist or some other form of totally undesirable person then I don't care what his politics are.
I read what he says about football and that's good enough for me, specially when he said he wanted to enjoy it (the football) if you can't enjoy it what's the point?
He wants an entertaining team as well as a winning one. It's a good place to start. |  |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:56 - Aug 2 with 536 views | trampie |
| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:46 - Aug 2 by Dr_Parnassus |
Any examples of countries that have implemented socialism and it working long term?
There isn’t, to save you a search. |
Scandinavian countries have socialist policies. | |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:58 - Aug 2 with 526 views | trampie |
| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:50 - Aug 2 by Lohengrin |
Which of the 57 varieties of Socialism are you describing there? |
The Nordic model, comprehensive welfare state with a large public sector with a high percentage of the workforce unionised. | |
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| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:59 - Aug 2 with 517 views | onehunglow |
| The right wing on here are not going to like Swans new manager politics. on 11:55 - Aug 2 by Catullus |
On this we completely agree. Unless our new boss is an extremist, a nazi, white supremacist or some other form of totally undesirable person then I don't care what his politics are.
I read what he says about football and that's good enough for me, specially when he said he wanted to enjoy it (the football) if you can't enjoy it what's the point?
He wants an entertaining team as well as a winning one. It's a good place to start. |
That some want a Green,Labour manager is nuts.
Frankly, a fascist would do me if he was any good. | |
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