| The kids are seeing sense 07:24 - Sep 7 with 7543 views | builthjack |
75% of 16 /17 year olds have now been vaccinated in Powys.
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| The kids are seeing sense on 10:23 - Sep 9 with 850 views | Scotia |
| The kids are seeing sense on 09:35 - Sep 9 by RonaldStump |
Again utter made up dribble to suit your narrative.
I won't explain again you are too far gone to even comprehend what's going on.
Good luck, you're going to need it |
I think you mean drivel? Happy to help, you clearly need it. |  | | |
| The kids are seeing sense on 10:25 - Sep 9 with 830 views | RonaldStump |
| The kids are seeing sense on 10:23 - Sep 9 by Scotia |
I think you mean drivel? Happy to help, you clearly need it. |
Nope I meant dribble. As typed. | |
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| The kids are seeing sense on 12:19 - Sep 9 with 800 views | Catullus |
| The kids are seeing sense on 09:32 - Sep 9 by RonaldStump |
As i said there is far more to it than vax v unvax. I'd have thought even a simpleton like you could work that out |
Yes, the vaxed are generally older and many have pre existing health conditions so more likely to fall victim to covid, yet more unvaxed people are being hospitalised, including teenagers now.
The basic numbers though show unvaxed are far more likely to get hospitalised before any other factors are considered.
Calling somebody else a simpleton, irony much? | |
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| The kids are seeing sense on 13:00 - Sep 9 with 788 views | Scotia |
| The kids are seeing sense on 10:25 - Sep 9 by RonaldStump |
Nope I meant dribble. As typed. |
Fair enough. Just something else you got wrong then.
https://grammarist.com/usage/d
There's no hope for you. [Post edited 9 Sep 2021 13:35]
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| The kids are seeing sense on 15:57 - Sep 9 with 749 views | Catullus |
Bojo said todat that 75% of the covid patients in hospital are the unvaccinated.
What is that ratio? Massive. Hows that Stumpy? What other drivel have you got to foist on us? | |
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| The kids are seeing sense on 16:35 - Sep 9 with 744 views | controversial_jack |
| The kids are seeing sense on 15:57 - Sep 9 by Catullus |
Bojo said todat that 75% of the covid patients in hospital are the unvaccinated.
What is that ratio? Massive. Hows that Stumpy? What other drivel have you got to foist on us? |
So, 25% have been vaccinated? Not exactly comforting! | | | |
| The kids are seeing sense on 16:43 - Sep 9 with 734 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The kids are seeing sense on 16:35 - Sep 9 by controversial_jack |
So, 25% have been vaccinated? Not exactly comforting! |
Of course it is as they make up 90% of the adult population but only 25% of hospital admissions, while unvaccinated only make up 10% of population but 75% of admissions.
If you are unvaccinated you are 27 times more likely to end up I hospitals as the vaccinated | |
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| The kids are seeing sense on 16:46 - Sep 9 with 722 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The kids are seeing sense on 16:35 - Sep 9 by controversial_jack |
So, 25% have been vaccinated? Not exactly comforting! |
Please stop this nonsense. It’s been explained a few times now and you just don’t seem to get it.
It means that 25% of the hospitalisations are coming from 90% of the population. A 90% that are older, have more vulnerabilities and so on. And 75% are coming from 10% that are generally younger, have fewer other issues that could have an effect, etc etc.
That’s not only comforting - it’s absolutely bloody miraculous. No one ever said the vaccine stopped 100% of hospitalisations. To be stopping as many as it is is incredible. | | | |
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| The kids are seeing sense on 16:49 - Sep 9 with 733 views | howenjack |
If the vaccines are safe how come the drug companies have indemnity against prosecution if anything goes wrong ? If they were safe they wouldn't need an indemnity. | | | |
| The kids are seeing sense on 17:19 - Sep 9 with 711 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The kids are seeing sense on 16:49 - Sep 9 by howenjack |
If the vaccines are safe how come the drug companies have indemnity against prosecution if anything goes wrong ? If they were safe they wouldn't need an indemnity. |
Because it’s cheaper for the government to self insure than to be charged by the companies due to every adult (possibly many children) being vaccinated in short order.
It’s all about money. You are indemnified by the government (as you are for many other vaccines). | | | |
| The kids are seeing sense on 17:25 - Sep 9 with 712 views | Boundy |
| The kids are seeing sense on 16:49 - Sep 9 by howenjack |
If the vaccines are safe how come the drug companies have indemnity against prosecution if anything goes wrong ? If they were safe they wouldn't need an indemnity. |
Read any prescribed medicine , that should help you understand that to certain degrees taking chemicals has its risks | |
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| The kids are seeing sense on 17:29 - Sep 9 with 711 views | howenjack |
| The kids are seeing sense on 17:25 - Sep 9 by Boundy |
Read any prescribed medicine , that should help you understand that to certain degrees taking chemicals has its risks |
In that case I prefer not to take it. | | | |
| The kids are seeing sense on 17:33 - Sep 9 with 699 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The kids are seeing sense on 17:29 - Sep 9 by howenjack |
In that case I prefer not to take it. |
If you think the vaccines or medicines have risks wait til you hear about this virus called Covid. | | | |
| The kids are seeing sense on 18:13 - Sep 9 with 687 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| The kids are seeing sense on 16:49 - Sep 9 by howenjack |
If the vaccines are safe how come the drug companies have indemnity against prosecution if anything goes wrong ? If they were safe they wouldn't need an indemnity. |
I think the indemnity arises as the new vaccines have not completed Phase Three trials. |  |
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| The kids are seeing sense on 18:26 - Sep 9 with 681 views | Catullus |
| The kids are seeing sense on 17:29 - Sep 9 by howenjack |
In that case I prefer not to take it. |
Every medicine has a leaflet in with it laying out the potential side effects. If you won't take any that means no paracetamol or aspirin either. Do you not take any medicines at all, not even the buy over the counter meds?
Side effects of paracetamol
Side effects from paracetamol are rare but can include:
an allergic reaction, which can cause a rash and swelling
flushing, low blood pressure and a fast heartbeat — this can sometimes happen when paracetamol is given in hospital into a vein in your arm
blood disorders, such as thrombocytopenia (low number of platelet cells) and leukopenia (low number of white blood cells)
liver and kidney damage, if you take too much (overdose) — this can be fatal in severe cases | |
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| The kids are seeing sense on 19:16 - Sep 9 with 671 views | Scotia |
| The kids are seeing sense on 16:35 - Sep 9 by controversial_jack |
So, 25% have been vaccinated? Not exactly comforting! |
I know that you are desperate for the vaccines to fail but you're just making a fool of yourself.
Look at it a different way. 75% of the people in hospital are from a group of 6 million predominantly young and healthy people. The remaining 25% come from 54 million predominantly old and sick people.
The vaccines are probably the greatest achievement in medical history. | | | |
| The kids are seeing sense on 22:51 - Sep 9 with 638 views | howenjack |
| The kids are seeing sense on 18:26 - Sep 9 by Catullus |
Every medicine has a leaflet in with it laying out the potential side effects. If you won't take any that means no paracetamol or aspirin either. Do you not take any medicines at all, not even the buy over the counter meds?
Side effects of paracetamol
Side effects from paracetamol are rare but can include:
an allergic reaction, which can cause a rash and swelling
flushing, low blood pressure and a fast heartbeat — this can sometimes happen when paracetamol is given in hospital into a vein in your arm
blood disorders, such as thrombocytopenia (low number of platelet cells) and leukopenia (low number of white blood cells)
liver and kidney damage, if you take too much (overdose) — this can be fatal in severe cases |
No I never take medicines . | | | |
| The kids are seeing sense on 23:36 - Sep 9 with 618 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The kids are seeing sense on 22:51 - Sep 9 by howenjack |
No I never take medicines . |
Apologies if I’ve misremembered, but I’m sure that it was you that said that they had a close friend or family member who was badly stabbed? In an incident in London? Or Manchester? I’m sure remember your name from that time (I think unless someone has or had a similar username).
Anyway, when that happened, if it was you, surely copious amounts of medicine was given and a large amount of medical treatment from doctors, surgeons, nurses etc etc. I think you said your friend was saved by the medics?
Do you think that the same people doing that sort of good are now wilfully doing harm to people by begging them to be vaccinated? Genuinely. Again, sorry if it wasn’t you. | | | |
| The kids are seeing sense on 00:16 - Sep 10 with 614 views | controversial_jack |
| The kids are seeing sense on 19:16 - Sep 9 by Scotia |
I know that you are desperate for the vaccines to fail but you're just making a fool of yourself.
Look at it a different way. 75% of the people in hospital are from a group of 6 million predominantly young and healthy people. The remaining 25% come from 54 million predominantly old and sick people.
The vaccines are probably the greatest achievement in medical history. |
The old and sick are the ones that need it most.
I have had both jabs, and so have all my family and friends.I want the vaccine to work, but I have my doubts that they are as effective as they are being made out to be.
95% protection, and a few months later it's well down.Those who had the vaccine at the beginning can now consider themselves to be unvaccinated. | | | |
| The kids are seeing sense on 00:22 - Sep 10 with 606 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The kids are seeing sense on 00:16 - Sep 10 by controversial_jack |
The old and sick are the ones that need it most.
I have had both jabs, and so have all my family and friends.I want the vaccine to work, but I have my doubts that they are as effective as they are being made out to be.
95% protection, and a few months later it's well down.Those who had the vaccine at the beginning can now consider themselves to be unvaccinated. |
There is no evidence that older people fully vaccinated 6 months ago now are effectively unvaccinated though. Given they’re not all now being hospitalised again. I know the antibody tests show a drop in immunity but the real world isn’t as simple as that otherwise hospitalisations would have been rising sharply again in the over 70s. | | | |
| The kids are seeing sense on 00:27 - Sep 10 with 605 views | RonaldStump |
| The kids are seeing sense on 00:22 - Sep 10 by londonlisa2001 |
There is no evidence that older people fully vaccinated 6 months ago now are effectively unvaccinated though. Given they’re not all now being hospitalised again. I know the antibody tests show a drop in immunity but the real world isn’t as simple as that otherwise hospitalisations would have been rising sharply again in the over 70s. |
What about when the talked about Booster is available for all double jabbed. Does your status then go from fully vax to unvax unti, you've had the booster? Apparently what is happening in israel? | |
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| The kids are seeing sense on 00:32 - Sep 10 with 601 views | controversial_jack |
| The kids are seeing sense on 00:22 - Sep 10 by londonlisa2001 |
There is no evidence that older people fully vaccinated 6 months ago now are effectively unvaccinated though. Given they’re not all now being hospitalised again. I know the antibody tests show a drop in immunity but the real world isn’t as simple as that otherwise hospitalisations would have been rising sharply again in the over 70s. |
Maybe the over 70s are being cautious and not getting the virus. I doubt many are frequenting nightclubs or packed pubs.Most older ppl are wearing masks too, at least that's what i see when i go to the supermarkets etc. | | | |
| The kids are seeing sense on 01:41 - Sep 10 with 590 views | Jack123 |
| The kids are seeing sense on 00:22 - Sep 10 by londonlisa2001 |
There is no evidence that older people fully vaccinated 6 months ago now are effectively unvaccinated though. Given they’re not all now being hospitalised again. I know the antibody tests show a drop in immunity but the real world isn’t as simple as that otherwise hospitalisations would have been rising sharply again in the over 70s. |
Ok then, show me there is no evidence that the vaccine efficacy is not dropping off? Perhaps you need to email the public health of Israel because it has there, and they are getting another jab. |  |
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| The kids are seeing sense on 07:45 - Sep 10 with 543 views | Scotia |
| The kids are seeing sense on 01:41 - Sep 10 by Jack123 |
Ok then, show me there is no evidence that the vaccine efficacy is not dropping off? Perhaps you need to email the public health of Israel because it has there, and they are getting another jab. |
The Israel study refers to viral load. After a while you can get infected and carry a high viral load, you won't get seriously ill though.
The efficacy drops against mild illness but nowhere near as much against severe illness. | | | |
| The kids are seeing sense on 07:48 - Sep 10 with 541 views | Scotia |
| The kids are seeing sense on 00:32 - Sep 10 by controversial_jack |
Maybe the over 70s are being cautious and not getting the virus. I doubt many are frequenting nightclubs or packed pubs.Most older ppl are wearing masks too, at least that's what i see when i go to the supermarkets etc. |
But they are in contact with those who are going to pubs and nightclubs, at least indirectly. We are basically living without restriction.
There is a world of difference between getting infected and getting severely ill. The efficacy drops against infection but apparently not against serious illness. That is a world away from "not being vaccinated" | | | |
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