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Andy Cole 00:57 - Sep 27 with 5129 viewsWalterBoyd

Why come onto this site and post nonsense.

Then when asked your opinion you run away for a few days, ignore any questions asked and then post more nonsense on a different subject.?

Just curious. Have belief in your original thoughts and back them up.

Unless you are a .

Then fair enough. It makes sense.
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Andy Cole on 10:02 - Sep 29 with 672 viewsNotLoyal

Andy Cole on 09:59 - Sep 29 by onehunglow

The only group (let's not say gang) clearly does not involve AC .
The group seem to be organised and virtually follow like sheep in their approbation.

When I have ,for example, given Russy some stick,I can almost guarantee who will be popping out of their cage to throw the barbs. Then ,they accuse others of a gang .


Anyway,where the hell is AC.?


On cool, switching shortly to winter mode.

OK I've changed it.
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Andy Cole on 10:10 - Sep 29 with 646 viewsonehunglow

Andy Cole on 10:02 - Sep 29 by NotLoyal

On cool, switching shortly to winter mode.


It's rather cool here in west Wirral this morning.
We were looking at the Millionaire homes getting built nearby, yesterday afternoon ,with their balconies facing NORTH.
Bladdy nuts but these are the houses that are selling and fast.

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Andy Cole on 10:15 - Sep 29 with 654 viewsmagicdaps10

Andy Cole on 09:59 - Sep 29 by onehunglow

The only group (let's not say gang) clearly does not involve AC .
The group seem to be organised and virtually follow like sheep in their approbation.

When I have ,for example, given Russy some stick,I can almost guarantee who will be popping out of their cage to throw the barbs. Then ,they accuse others of a gang .


Anyway,where the hell is AC.?


So that would indicate there are 2 gangs, pending if a person is in one of those gangs them they will be totally unaware that they are running in one of those packs as some reply posts suggests.

All opinions I suppose unless you are not capable of taking an opinion on board.

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Andy Cole on 10:23 - Sep 29 with 638 viewsonehunglow

Andy Cole on 10:15 - Sep 29 by magicdaps10

So that would indicate there are 2 gangs, pending if a person is in one of those gangs them they will be totally unaware that they are running in one of those packs as some reply posts suggests.

All opinions I suppose unless you are not capable of taking an opinion on board.


No.
If we're talking gangs ,I d say just two. It goes back to this site's genesis.Some posters are known to each other personally and obviously gossip in the flesh about other posters,making wrong assumptions in the process.

Some like a manager and defend him at all costs,which is what AC is doing. Crazy to me as Cooper killed us stone dead passion wise anyway. A gurning ugly disinterested figure in a Primark anorak who screwed up 2 promotions with good players.

Some simply see a poster and ,if they can,insult him/her and if they avoid overt "hate" speech,they get away with it,so they perpetuate old spats. It is nowhere near what it was but it still lingers.

It's best to "hate" everyone equally

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Andy Cole on 10:32 - Sep 29 with 628 viewsDr_Parnassus

Andy Cole on 10:15 - Sep 29 by magicdaps10

So that would indicate there are 2 gangs, pending if a person is in one of those gangs them they will be totally unaware that they are running in one of those packs as some reply posts suggests.

All opinions I suppose unless you are not capable of taking an opinion on board.


What is it exactly, that this supposed “gang” have said about Martin then? Any examples?

Are you talking about the ones backing him to change the silly passing around the back and losing it? when under pressure.

Or the ones incorrectly saying he wasn’t adaptable and couldn’t change and that people had to just lump it?

Which one constitutes the attack you were describing?

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Andy Cole on 10:36 - Sep 29 with 611 viewsonehunglow

Andy Cole on 10:32 - Sep 29 by Dr_Parnassus

What is it exactly, that this supposed “gang” have said about Martin then? Any examples?

Are you talking about the ones backing him to change the silly passing around the back and losing it? when under pressure.

Or the ones incorrectly saying he wasn’t adaptable and couldn’t change and that people had to just lump it?

Which one constitutes the attack you were describing?


Let me answer that
When those see the ball being given away needlessly right in front or our own goalmouth,done because of the way he wats to always play out from the back.
Also,doubts about handing over the club's hopes for a brighter future to an ingenue manager who has no history of success to justify such unfettered love

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Andy Cole on 10:40 - Sep 29 with 611 viewsDr_Parnassus

Andy Cole on 10:36 - Sep 29 by onehunglow

Let me answer that
When those see the ball being given away needlessly right in front or our own goalmouth,done because of the way he wats to always play out from the back.
Also,doubts about handing over the club's hopes for a brighter future to an ingenue manager who has no history of success to justify such unfettered love


Absolutely, they are constructive observations. A bit like certain people saying Whittaker should start over Cullen.

That’s not an attack on Martin, and it’s not an attack on Cullen.

Daps has accused some sort of mythical gang on here of attacking Martin, so I’m fascinated to what that attack consisted of.

I must have missed them.

The sensible part of my brain is telling me that he’s made it up again and to ignore him, the other more mischievous part of my brain is telling me I should give him a chance to try and dig himself out for the entertainment value…

So I have decided on the latter.
[Post edited 29 Sep 2021 10:47]

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Andy Cole on 10:49 - Sep 29 with 598 viewsonehunglow

Andy Cole on 10:40 - Sep 29 by Dr_Parnassus

Absolutely, they are constructive observations. A bit like certain people saying Whittaker should start over Cullen.

That’s not an attack on Martin, and it’s not an attack on Cullen.

Daps has accused some sort of mythical gang on here of attacking Martin, so I’m fascinated to what that attack consisted of.

I must have missed them.

The sensible part of my brain is telling me that he’s made it up again and to ignore him, the other more mischievous part of my brain is telling me I should give him a chance to try and dig himself out for the entertainment value…

So I have decided on the latter.
[Post edited 29 Sep 2021 10:47]


We are independent minded posters,the type this site needs,or it would be nauseatingly cosy and bland.It need posters who swim against the tide and the tide here says support Martin no matter what;well Im not having it.

Whittaker is seen as persona non grata which is appalling. Grimes is still undropable and captain whilst Downes is head and shoulders better . Nowt wrong with asking questions and doubting Russ.If he is proven correct EVENTUALLY,then great-a win win but folk HAVE to realise Hate it is not.

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Andy Cole on 10:53 - Sep 29 with 605 viewsNotLoyal

I’m not in a gang.

OK I've changed it.
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Andy Cole on 10:57 - Sep 29 with 588 viewsonehunglow

Andy Cole on 10:53 - Sep 29 by NotLoyal

I’m not in a gang.


Like me then.
Nobody will ave us

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Andy Cole on 11:04 - Sep 29 with 586 viewsDr_Parnassus

Andy Cole on 10:53 - Sep 29 by NotLoyal

I’m not in a gang.


Same.

I think I’m the most anti-gang poster on here. Couldn’t give a damn who agrees with me and who doesn’t.

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Andy Cole on 11:05 - Sep 29 with 594 viewsmagicdaps10

So we got other people giving answers to other posters opinions....WOW!

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Andy Cole on 11:05 - Sep 29 with 581 viewsonehunglow

Andy Cole on 11:05 - Sep 29 by magicdaps10

So we got other people giving answers to other posters opinions....WOW!


Indeed.
Have a look around daps.
We'll be as we are.

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Andy Cole on 11:08 - Sep 29 with 578 viewsDr_Parnassus

Andy Cole on 11:05 - Sep 29 by magicdaps10

So we got other people giving answers to other posters opinions....WOW!


Saying that Martin was attacked by a gang is not an opinion, that’s a statement of fact.

I’m just trying to get the details behind that claimed fact.

Who said what?

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Andy Cole on 11:19 - Sep 29 with 568 viewsItchySphincter

Stop ganging up on Daps.

‘……. like a moth to Itchy’s flame ……’
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Andy Cole on 11:21 - Sep 29 with 557 viewsDr_Parnassus

Andy Cole on 11:19 - Sep 29 by ItchySphincter

Stop ganging up on Daps.



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Andy Cole on 11:27 - Sep 29 with 563 viewsItchySphincter

Andy Cole on 11:21 - Sep 29 by Dr_Parnassus



That’s rude mind.

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Andy Cole on 11:35 - Sep 29 with 550 viewsDr_Parnassus

Andy Cole on 11:27 - Sep 29 by ItchySphincter

That’s rude mind.


Don’t gang up on me.

It’s not nice.

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Andy Cole on 11:39 - Sep 29 with 543 viewsonehunglow

I see gangs and I think of Gary Glitter.traumatised me .

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Andy Cole on 11:51 - Sep 29 with 541 viewsmagicdaps10

Andy Cole on 11:05 - Sep 29 by onehunglow

Indeed.
Have a look around daps.
We'll be as we are.


Glad you can see it.

Some clearly can't or are not willing to see.

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Andy Cole on 11:52 - Sep 29 with 530 viewsDr_Parnassus

Andy Cole on 11:51 - Sep 29 by magicdaps10

Glad you can see it.

Some clearly can't or are not willing to see.


So what did the gang that you can see say to attack Martin?

All good if you aren’t sure.

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Andy Cole on 12:11 - Sep 29 with 528 viewsYrAlarch

Andy Cole on 19:45 - Sep 28 by onehunglow

Well me ol mucker I see it rather differently and its nowt to do with Cooper,Martin or any of our emplyees ;it is aimed personally at posters picked out and selected for abuse.This site has ameliorated it somewhat but it has not been stopped. Sadly.

Anyone ,for example who criticised Swansea/Wales,the Langauge gets pelters.Hell,we have some who see it their duty to hammer those who do such things as point out the serious socio-economic issues facing the country. BUT,nope ,it is seen as slagging off.

Same with AC.

Gang my bottom hole". He aint a chum of mine and I hated Cooper with a passion but we seem to respect differences. All posters on this site need to understand the basics of toleration. I don't most of the time and admit so,but others need to do so also.


I seem to remember that, some time ago, you stated that you didn't use the word 'hate', rather the word 'detest'.
I asked you why you detested Cooper, but you did not respond.
So, as someone who did not detest/hate Cooper, perhaps you could show some 'respect' for our difference of opinion and respond to my query.
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Andy Cole on 12:33 - Sep 29 with 496 viewsNotLoyal

Andy Cole on 12:11 - Sep 29 by YrAlarch

I seem to remember that, some time ago, you stated that you didn't use the word 'hate', rather the word 'detest'.
I asked you why you detested Cooper, but you did not respond.
So, as someone who did not detest/hate Cooper, perhaps you could show some 'respect' for our difference of opinion and respond to my query.


I detest the word hate.

OK I've changed it.
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Andy Cole on 13:31 - Sep 29 with 464 viewsReslovenSwan1

I am a gang of one with few silent supporters who keep the heads below the parapet.

My position is as follows.

a) I support the US owners and thank them for their recent loan.
b) I encourage them to convert the loan and dilute passive investors. (fairly)
c) I believe the SCST and the US owners have identical objectives (Making big money).
d) I encourage the SCST to come to an accommodation with other shareholders.
e) I applaud Jenkins Morgan and Dineen. Their work was exceptional.
f) Cooper did not seem to be a good team player and had to go. SCFC now has a tight team. Manager/Chairman/ Recruitment/ Owners. Cooper did a good job overall.
g) I believe Swansea are back on a upward and sustainable trajectory having a strong management team and solved the long term 'defect' of poor recruitment.
h) Huw Jenkins should have a stand named after him.

So why is there hostility to the US owners? Poor PR is one reason. I believe Swansea city fans, (being largely Anglophones) copy the logic of big 'working class' urban English team's while forgetting they are very different. Swansea city fans are OWNERS. Not like Liverpool or Arsenal at all. Gripes of Arsenal or Liverpool fans are not relevant to Swansea who have a man in the boardroom. Some fans would rather protest march than speak to their man on the board.

The man on the board needs to speak the same language as Levien, Kaplan, Silverstein the language of progress development growth and profit. (big profit). There is no need to share it with 3rd parties unless it is with some one like Ty Hafod or similar. This may reduce tax obligations.

Of course anyone who supports the current ownership will run into the south Wales prevailing political consensus which supports state ownership and decisions made by democratically elected "not for profit" committees. This is similar to the WRU which really did not work very well. Welsh rugby went into serious decline until reformed and made business friendly.

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Andy Cole on 13:36 - Sep 29 with 460 viewsmagicdaps10

Andy Cole on 11:52 - Sep 29 by Dr_Parnassus

So what did the gang that you can see say to attack Martin?

All good if you aren’t sure.


Wasn't talking to you.


If you don't answer questions then don't have the audacity to request an answer if they have not replied to you.

Play fair.

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