| The Vaccination Industry 11:39 - Dec 7 with 6262 views | RonaldStump |
I know a few people who have worked in the chemical and big pharma industry for almost 3 decades. The logistics of this clot shot manufacture puzzles them.If we combined all the manufacturers would they be able to manufacture the the shots at one dose per second it would take almost 32 years to make a billion doses. So where is it all coming from? some have had their fourth dose. They want to vaccinate the population of the world several times over yet we don't see any NEW manufacturing facilities, mass staffing and recruitment? It would take a minimum of 6 months to train a technician in the very basics of vessel competency yet here we are, an unlimited supply of this treatment! It's almost like it's been stockpiled years in advance.
AWAKE YET
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| Clot Shot industry on 18:31 - Dec 18 with 856 views | shingle |
| Clot Shot industry on 15:59 - Dec 18 by Professor |
When I get on an airliner, I usually like a pilot rather than a plumber in the cockpit. |
I would say in your case it is more of a matter of when you get on the eyeliner.  | | | |
| Clot Shot industry on 18:43 - Dec 18 with 838 views | Professor |
| Clot Shot industry on 18:31 - Dec 18 by shingle |
I would say in your case it is more of a matter of when you get on the eyeliner. |
No. That’s just Friday night | | | |
| Clot Shot industry on 18:45 - Dec 18 with 831 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Clot Shot industry on 18:24 - Dec 18 by Professor |
Because dimwit, if the virus is circulating it will find a reservoir of susceptibilty. The unvaccinated
Why not wake up to what people are saying-30% increase in Covid-related hospital admissions in London. Rather than looking at retrospective data and saying no problem. There clearly is and I would, if I could in this forum really let you and the other idiots know what I really think of you idiotic and dangerous propaganda. I though Chris Whitty spoke quite eloquently this week that many unvaccinated are not at all anti Vaccine, but we’re hesitant due misinformation. You are guilty of this and are to paraphrase Nye Bevan, lower than vermin. |
So, you have no clue what I am talking about do you?
You ignore the first question all together.
Did I say that COVID was killing the unvaccinated, no I didn't, because that is not what they died of, but that was the immediate conclusion that you jumped to.
As if I wouldn't know if that was the case.
And you call me a dimwit.
ps Whitty lied by ommission and you fell for it, the increase in the UK cases was mostly because of a massive increase in testing, not from extra infectiousness. [Post edited 18 Dec 2021 18:47]
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| Clot Shot industry on 19:24 - Dec 18 with 809 views | Gwyn737 |
| Clot Shot industry on 18:45 - Dec 18 by A_Fans_Dad |
So, you have no clue what I am talking about do you?
You ignore the first question all together.
Did I say that COVID was killing the unvaccinated, no I didn't, because that is not what they died of, but that was the immediate conclusion that you jumped to.
As if I wouldn't know if that was the case.
And you call me a dimwit.
ps Whitty lied by ommission and you fell for it, the increase in the UK cases was mostly because of a massive increase in testing, not from extra infectiousness. [Post edited 18 Dec 2021 18:47]
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To be fair, we’ve got to the point that nobody knows what you’re on about. | | | |
| Clot Shot industry on 19:39 - Dec 18 with 802 views | Catullus |
| Clot Shot industry on 18:45 - Dec 18 by A_Fans_Dad |
So, you have no clue what I am talking about do you?
You ignore the first question all together.
Did I say that COVID was killing the unvaccinated, no I didn't, because that is not what they died of, but that was the immediate conclusion that you jumped to.
As if I wouldn't know if that was the case.
And you call me a dimwit.
ps Whitty lied by ommission and you fell for it, the increase in the UK cases was mostly because of a massive increase in testing, not from extra infectiousness. [Post edited 18 Dec 2021 18:47]
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If you test 1000 and it's 32% positve, then you test 1000000 and it's still 32% positive, thats not a rise in rates.
When you test 1000 and get 32% but you test 1000000 and get 54%, that is a rise in rates.
Omicron cases are doubling every 1.9 days, that means in less than 8 days there will be 8 times as many cases as today. | |
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| Clot Shot industry on 19:49 - Dec 18 with 786 views | Professor |
| Clot Shot industry on 18:45 - Dec 18 by A_Fans_Dad |
So, you have no clue what I am talking about do you?
You ignore the first question all together.
Did I say that COVID was killing the unvaccinated, no I didn't, because that is not what they died of, but that was the immediate conclusion that you jumped to.
As if I wouldn't know if that was the case.
And you call me a dimwit.
ps Whitty lied by ommission and you fell for it, the increase in the UK cases was mostly because of a massive increase in testing, not from extra infectiousness. [Post edited 18 Dec 2021 18:47]
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I met Chris Whitty when he was DfID CSO. A bit of a drip but certainly and serious and honest scientist and physician. A decent man. He did not lie. You truly are pondlife | | | |
| Clot Shot industry on 20:04 - Dec 18 with 767 views | Scotia |
| Clot Shot industry on 18:45 - Dec 18 by A_Fans_Dad |
So, you have no clue what I am talking about do you?
You ignore the first question all together.
Did I say that COVID was killing the unvaccinated, no I didn't, because that is not what they died of, but that was the immediate conclusion that you jumped to.
As if I wouldn't know if that was the case.
And you call me a dimwit.
ps Whitty lied by ommission and you fell for it, the increase in the UK cases was mostly because of a massive increase in testing, not from extra infectiousness. [Post edited 18 Dec 2021 18:47]
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Cases are up by 44.4% testing by 19%.
Please, please stop trying to interpret data. | | | |
| Clot Shot industry on 20:04 - Dec 18 with 769 views | Dr_Winston |
| Clot Shot industry on 19:49 - Dec 18 by Professor |
I met Chris Whitty when he was DfID CSO. A bit of a drip but certainly and serious and honest scientist and physician. A decent man. He did not lie. You truly are pondlife |
I cannot understand, for your own sanity, why you continue to engage with these people. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Clot Shot industry on 20:38 - Dec 18 with 737 views | Professor |
| Clot Shot industry on 20:04 - Dec 18 by Dr_Winston |
I cannot understand, for your own sanity, why you continue to engage with these people. |
You are right and others have said the same to me. But unless someone has the balls to take down these lies, I have to refute them. I only hope that Omicron does not get close to some of the higher end models. Those I know who work with patients are seriously close to collapse. | | | |
| Clot Shot industry on 20:40 - Dec 18 with 736 views | onehunglow |
| Clot Shot industry on 20:38 - Dec 18 by Professor |
You are right and others have said the same to me. But unless someone has the balls to take down these lies, I have to refute them. I only hope that Omicron does not get close to some of the higher end models. Those I know who work with patients are seriously close to collapse. |
Keep at it Prof
You have a duty a a scientific professional.
We all have a duty to help these people see sense
Not sure doing nowt is the answer | |
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| Clot Shot industry on 20:52 - Dec 18 with 729 views | majorraglan |
| Clot Shot industry on 20:38 - Dec 18 by Professor |
You are right and others have said the same to me. But unless someone has the balls to take down these lies, I have to refute them. I only hope that Omicron does not get close to some of the higher end models. Those I know who work with patients are seriously close to collapse. |
Prof, you and Scotia are doing a fantastic job of explaining the scientific stuff to us non scientific types and it’s really appreciated. Thank you.
I have family and a lot of friends working in the NHS and I know what they’ve gone through, death, death and more death. Some are on their knees. [Post edited 18 Dec 2021 20:54]
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| Clot Shot industry on 20:55 - Dec 18 with 719 views | onehunglow |
| Clot Shot industry on 20:52 - Dec 18 by majorraglan |
Prof, you and Scotia are doing a fantastic job of explaining the scientific stuff to us non scientific types and it’s really appreciated. Thank you.
I have family and a lot of friends working in the NHS and I know what they’ve gone through, death, death and more death. Some are on their knees. [Post edited 18 Dec 2021 20:54]
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Amen to that.
It really is the case if NHS gets snowed under woth covid other serious procedures will suffer.
Right now,getting a dentist is a serious matter .Good luck to anyone with real toothache | |
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| Clot Shot industry on 21:10 - Dec 18 with 713 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Clot Shot industry on 19:49 - Dec 18 by Professor |
I met Chris Whitty when he was DfID CSO. A bit of a drip but certainly and serious and honest scientist and physician. A decent man. He did not lie. You truly are pondlife |
So, he tells the country that we had a massive increase in cases, but doesn't tell the country that the majority of them were due to almost the same size increase in tests.
OK
You may not think he is but Professor Dalgleish is not impressed.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/de
The latest official UK figures make very interesting reading, they have changed the numbers from the last time I looked on the 15th.
The 16th saw a 26% drop in cases to 66,094 while the tests only dropped 2%. | | | |
| Clot Shot industry on 21:14 - Dec 18 with 710 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Clot Shot industry on 19:39 - Dec 18 by Catullus |
If you test 1000 and it's 32% positve, then you test 1000000 and it's still 32% positive, thats not a rise in rates.
When you test 1000 and get 32% but you test 1000000 and get 54%, that is a rise in rates.
Omicron cases are doubling every 1.9 days, that means in less than 8 days there will be 8 times as many cases as today. |
But it hasn't happened like that.
Here are the latest official numbers (modified since the 15th)
14th 1,319,891 tests 91,956 cases (major change)
15th 1,635,922 tests 89,436 cases
16th 1,598,910 tests 66,094 cases
Check the numbers here for tests
https://coronavirus.data.gov.u
And cases here
https://coronavirus.data.gov.u | | | |
| Clot Shot industry on 21:21 - Dec 18 with 696 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Clot Shot industry on 20:04 - Dec 18 by Scotia |
Cases are up by 44.4% testing by 19%.
Please, please stop trying to interpret data. |
I am not "interpretting" their data and it doesn't agree with yours.
I am using their websites with their latest data (which is now running 2 days behind).
I will repeat it just for you, go and argue with them about their data and not me.
14th 1,319,891 tests 91,956 cases (major change)
15th 1,635,922 tests 89,436 cases
16th 1,598,910 tests 66,094 cases
Check the numbers here for tests
https://coronavirus.data.gov.u
And cases here
https://coronavirus.data.gov.u | | | |
| Clot Shot industry on 21:23 - Dec 18 with 693 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Clot Shot industry on 19:49 - Dec 18 by Professor |
I met Chris Whitty when he was DfID CSO. A bit of a drip but certainly and serious and honest scientist and physician. A decent man. He did not lie. You truly are pondlife |
So no answers on the vaccine conundrum then? | | | |
| Clot Shot industry on 21:27 - Dec 18 with 692 views | Professor |
| Clot Shot industry on 21:10 - Dec 18 by A_Fans_Dad |
So, he tells the country that we had a massive increase in cases, but doesn't tell the country that the majority of them were due to almost the same size increase in tests.
OK
You may not think he is but Professor Dalgleish is not impressed.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/de
The latest official UK figures make very interesting reading, they have changed the numbers from the last time I looked on the 15th.
The 16th saw a 26% drop in cases to 66,094 while the tests only dropped 2%. |
Perhaps Dalgliesh, should have thought before putting his name that shameful piece. He is not a public health expert. It’s also a political statement. Like Sikora, he is an extreme right winger. Former UKIP candidate. But of course you lap up that stuff.
Right wing populism. The easy answer not the difficult truth. | | | |
| Clot Shot industry on 22:02 - Dec 18 with 667 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Clot Shot industry on 21:27 - Dec 18 by Professor |
Perhaps Dalgliesh, should have thought before putting his name that shameful piece. He is not a public health expert. It’s also a political statement. Like Sikora, he is an extreme right winger. Former UKIP candidate. But of course you lap up that stuff.
Right wing populism. The easy answer not the difficult truth. |
It staggers me that we have a professional on here and people argue with him quoting the daily Mail or some right wing ‘commentator’. Listen to the professionals. |  | | |
| Clot Shot industry on 22:22 - Dec 18 with 649 views | Gwyn737 |
| Clot Shot industry on 22:02 - Dec 18 by Sirjohnalot |
It staggers me that we have a professional on here and people argue with him quoting the daily Mail or some right wing ‘commentator’. Listen to the professionals. |
Conspiracy theory:
A belief that a consensus of the world's scientific experts in a particular field have missed something they’ve spent their lives researching, but a bloke with broadband has been able to uncover in half an hour with superior Googling skills. | | | |
| Clot Shot industry on 22:36 - Dec 18 with 630 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Clot Shot industry on 22:02 - Dec 18 by Sirjohnalot |
It staggers me that we have a professional on here and people argue with him quoting the daily Mail or some right wing ‘commentator’. Listen to the professionals. |
That "right wing ‘commentator’. happens to be a professor of oncology at a London teaching hospital.
In other words a "professional". | | | |
| Clot Shot industry on 23:20 - Dec 18 with 607 views | Professor |
| Clot Shot industry on 22:36 - Dec 18 by A_Fans_Dad |
That "right wing ‘commentator’. happens to be a professor of oncology at a London teaching hospital.
In other words a "professional". |
Who happened to write an extremely unprofessional, nay, downright nasty piece of right wing populism for Daily Mail click bait. Now, let’s give Dalgliesh his due, he is a much better scientist than Sikora and did some very good work on HIV and Karposi’s sarcoma in the 1980s, but about as qualified as a GP to give expert opinion on public health to a national newspaper. You do know what oncology means? I am not so sure anymore | | | |
| Clot Shot industry on 23:21 - Dec 18 with 608 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Clot Shot industry on 23:20 - Dec 18 by Professor |
Who happened to write an extremely unprofessional, nay, downright nasty piece of right wing populism for Daily Mail click bait. Now, let’s give Dalgliesh his due, he is a much better scientist than Sikora and did some very good work on HIV and Karposi’s sarcoma in the 1980s, but about as qualified as a GP to give expert opinion on public health to a national newspaper. You do know what oncology means? I am not so sure anymore |
Quite, it’s like me giving advice on contact law. Last time I did is was 97-98 in Uni. | | | |
| Clot Shot industry on 23:43 - Dec 18 with 589 views | Professor |
| Clot Shot industry on 23:21 - Dec 18 by Sirjohnalot |
Quite, it’s like me giving advice on contact law. Last time I did is was 97-98 in Uni. |
And this is the whole point. So take a clinical colleague like Tom Solomon (virology and brain infection) or Calum Semple (infectious disease and public health), these guys have 20-30 years specialising in their area of practice and research. For a bench scientist like me, I submitted my PhD in 1998, six years post doctoral research and 10 years as an academic/principal investigator before getting a personal chair. The amount of specialism,
Experience and knowledge is huge. It’s like asking a local mechanic to take over as Lewis Hamilton’s mechanic. The gap is huge. I hear ‘experts’ on the radio most mornings. I know some of them, some are even mates. They are not even the real experts who are frankly, too busy for the media at present. Now these people are good virologists and microbiologists and what they say is usually correct. This would be more analogous with a Red Bull mechanic working on a Mercedes.
I’ve had a long career in mainly immunity to bacterial infection. The difference is I know what I don’t know as opposed to having the hubris to think I know it all.
I have a couple of contract lawyer friends. They are a lot wealthier than the friend who is a Professor of criminal law. | | | |
| Clot Shot industry on 07:20 - Dec 19 with 543 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Clot Shot industry on 23:43 - Dec 18 by Professor |
And this is the whole point. So take a clinical colleague like Tom Solomon (virology and brain infection) or Calum Semple (infectious disease and public health), these guys have 20-30 years specialising in their area of practice and research. For a bench scientist like me, I submitted my PhD in 1998, six years post doctoral research and 10 years as an academic/principal investigator before getting a personal chair. The amount of specialism,
Experience and knowledge is huge. It’s like asking a local mechanic to take over as Lewis Hamilton’s mechanic. The gap is huge. I hear ‘experts’ on the radio most mornings. I know some of them, some are even mates. They are not even the real experts who are frankly, too busy for the media at present. Now these people are good virologists and microbiologists and what they say is usually correct. This would be more analogous with a Red Bull mechanic working on a Mercedes.
I’ve had a long career in mainly immunity to bacterial infection. The difference is I know what I don’t know as opposed to having the hubris to think I know it all.
I have a couple of contract lawyer friends. They are a lot wealthier than the friend who is a Professor of criminal law. |
Oh absolutely, commercial law etc is where the real money is, but I’d be so bored. Can’t see many people wanting to get into a debate on here on whether something is an implied or express term of a contract !
Criminal law is bonkers, everyday is different.
I get people all the time asking me for advice on employment law or family etc. Won’t do it, I pass them onto my colleague, I can give, what I think is correct, but make it clear it’s not my area. [Post edited 19 Dec 2021 7:24]
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| Clot Shot industry on 09:40 - Dec 19 with 503 views | RonaldStump |
| Clot Shot industry on 22:36 - Dec 18 by A_Fans_Dad |
That "right wing ‘commentator’. happens to be a professor of oncology at a London teaching hospital.
In other words a "professional". |
And this fella claims to be a lawyer. gawd help his clients | |
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