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Russia invade Ukraine 14:17 - Dec 23 with 152322 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

Discuss.

Also why is Putin always described in the media as this rugged strongman? He’s barely five foot tall with his high heels on.

But that’s another debate.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 00:32 - Apr 27 with 827 viewsRobbie

Russia invade Ukraine on 00:02 - Apr 27 by controversial_jack

It's all about the money.

Stop the Russian gas and the US can and are sending more expensive LNG to Europe.It was always part of their plan to sell more to Europe and China too.Japan get's a lot from them as well,but that market is contracting This is why the US has been stirring the brown stuff in the Ukraine for years.

US gas cannot compete on price with the Russians, so demand for Russian gas will prevail over any altruistic feelings towards the Ukraine. It's called real politik


Just stating my feelings about a country , India , whom I once had a had a lot of respect for .

Unfortunately , they have gone down in my estimation over their involvement ,
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Russia invade Ukraine on 07:03 - Apr 27 with 785 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 00:02 - Apr 27 by controversial_jack

It's all about the money.

Stop the Russian gas and the US can and are sending more expensive LNG to Europe.It was always part of their plan to sell more to Europe and China too.Japan get's a lot from them as well,but that market is contracting This is why the US has been stirring the brown stuff in the Ukraine for years.

US gas cannot compete on price with the Russians, so demand for Russian gas will prevail over any altruistic feelings towards the Ukraine. It's called real politik


It was Russia that invaded Ukraine not the USA. Do to blame the crisis on the USA is perverse.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 09:05 - Apr 27 with 759 viewsBoundy

Russia invade Ukraine on 23:27 - Apr 26 by majorraglan

Looks like they are turning the gas off, meanwhile India is buying more cheap Russian oil.
We should remember who are friends are and who continues to trade with Putin while all this is going on.
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But we still send aid to India ( 50 odd million ) , its a funny old world , if it was funny

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Russia invade Ukraine on 11:20 - Apr 27 with 743 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 07:03 - Apr 27 by felixstowe_jack

It was Russia that invaded Ukraine not the USA. Do to blame the crisis on the USA is perverse.


i'm not blaming it fully on the US, but their foreign policy is helping to stir it up. Follow the money with the Yanks every time
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Russia invade Ukraine on 13:02 - Apr 27 with 721 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 11:20 - Apr 27 by controversial_jack

i'm not blaming it fully on the US, but their foreign policy is helping to stir it up. Follow the money with the Yanks every time


It was Russians foriegn policy to invade a sovereign country,
Ukraine. The only people to blame are Putin and the Russians.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 13:25 - Apr 27 with 711 viewsonehunglow

Putin says he has the capacity to blow away UK.

And so do we Russia. Why are we so craven with this bully.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 16:50 - Apr 27 with 703 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 13:02 - Apr 27 by felixstowe_jack

It was Russians foriegn policy to invade a sovereign country,
Ukraine. The only people to blame are Putin and the Russians.


Therefore it would have been our decision to invade sovereign Iraq and Afghanistan, regardless of any threat of WMD , harboring terrorists or Bin Laden? We just did it because we felt like it?
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Russia invade Ukraine on 17:08 - Apr 27 with 700 viewsLorax

Russia invade Ukraine on 16:50 - Apr 27 by controversial_jack

Therefore it would have been our decision to invade sovereign Iraq and Afghanistan, regardless of any threat of WMD , harboring terrorists or Bin Laden? We just did it because we felt like it?


That's just more whataboutery, especially considering the vast majority of us (having finally learned the truth about "sexed up" dossiers) consider Iraq an illegal war and Tony Blair a war criminal.

This is all about Putin and his illegal acts and war crimes.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 17:31 - Apr 27 with 692 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

Russia invade Ukraine on 16:50 - Apr 27 by controversial_jack

Therefore it would have been our decision to invade sovereign Iraq and Afghanistan, regardless of any threat of WMD , harboring terrorists or Bin Laden? We just did it because we felt like it?


Iraq wasn’t “our decision” it was that maniac Tony Blair’s decision in his official capacity of George Bush’s chief arse licker. And he had to lie to parliament to achieve it.

As for Afghanistan at least that was approved by the UN Security Council.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 18:16 - Apr 27 with 681 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 17:08 - Apr 27 by Lorax

That's just more whataboutery, especially considering the vast majority of us (having finally learned the truth about "sexed up" dossiers) consider Iraq an illegal war and Tony Blair a war criminal.

This is all about Putin and his illegal acts and war crimes.


That may well be, but the point being made is, there are causes to these conflicts.Putin didn't just get up one day and say let's have a go at the Ukraine, there are many causes to most conflicts
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Russia invade Ukraine on 19:25 - Apr 27 with 669 viewsScotia

Russia invade Ukraine on 18:16 - Apr 27 by controversial_jack

That may well be, but the point being made is, there are causes to these conflicts.Putin didn't just get up one day and say let's have a go at the Ukraine, there are many causes to most conflicts


And the root cause of this conflict is that Putin is a maniac who genuinely doesn't care how many people he kills to serve his one-upmanship.

That doesn't stop you excusing him though.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 21:48 - Apr 27 with 649 viewsLorax

Russia invade Ukraine on 18:16 - Apr 27 by controversial_jack

That may well be, but the point being made is, there are causes to these conflicts.Putin didn't just get up one day and say let's have a go at the Ukraine, there are many causes to most conflicts


Obviously there are causes and you're right, he didn't just decide one day, he had been planning it for months if ot years. He even said Ukraine has no right to exist as a country. He considers t to be part of Russia, so it's not just about what the nasty USA and Western Europe did, it's deeper than that.

Putin covets Ukraine and her rich resources. Wake up mun and stop excusing the megalomaniacs behaviour.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 09:54 - Apr 28 with 625 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 21:48 - Apr 27 by Lorax

Obviously there are causes and you're right, he didn't just decide one day, he had been planning it for months if ot years. He even said Ukraine has no right to exist as a country. He considers t to be part of Russia, so it's not just about what the nasty USA and Western Europe did, it's deeper than that.

Putin covets Ukraine and her rich resources. Wake up mun and stop excusing the megalomaniacs behaviour.


Russia is one of the most resource rich countries on earth. Russia doesn't need anymore. It's not about resources.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 10:31 - Apr 28 with 614 viewsLorax

Russia invade Ukraine on 09:54 - Apr 28 by controversial_jack

Russia is one of the most resource rich countries on earth. Russia doesn't need anymore. It's not about resources.


Rich people/countries never need anymore but they keep on trying to take more.

Of course Russia wants,

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-major-natural-resources-of-ukra
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Russia invade Ukraine on 10:39 - Apr 28 with 608 viewsBoundy

Russia invade Ukraine on 09:54 - Apr 28 by controversial_jack

Russia is one of the most resource rich countries on earth. Russia doesn't need anymore. It's not about resources.


Won't be much use to the fool if he can't sell his gas and oil for example .Oil exports to Europe account for 2/3rds of their output . Becoming isolated from the rest of the civilised world is not going to help Russia in fact if there any good going to come out of this war is the fact that its forced countries to find alterative suppliers which will & have stepped in to replace Russian output. Maybe Russian won't be immediately affected by its actions but the longer this charade continues then the more painful it will become for the Russian economy . The Russian invasion of Ukraine cost $7 billion in just the first five days, according to Centre for Economic Recovery analysis. This includes an estimated $2.7 billion loss in GDP from the estimated 20,000 Russian casualties. Excluding the toll in human capital, that’s $4.2 billion in less than a week. Over three months at the same rate of expenditure, the cost to the Russian military in materiel alone would amount to roughly $50 billion. If the West can keep up the same supply rate of weapons and maintain sanctions then there will only be one outcome , a bankrupt Russia
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"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Russia invade Ukraine on 11:31 - Apr 28 with 602 viewsmajorraglan

Russia invade Ukraine on 09:54 - Apr 28 by controversial_jack

Russia is one of the most resource rich countries on earth. Russia doesn't need anymore. It's not about resources.


They may have more resources but the general standard of living in Russia is much lower than in the West. I wouldn’t be so sure it’s not about resources, there appears to huge levels of greed and corruption in Russia - snouts in the trough!
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Russia invade Ukraine on 14:47 - Apr 28 with 581 viewsBoundy


"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Russia invade Ukraine on 16:33 - Apr 28 with 560 viewsonehunglow

I rest my case
Yet,many of our people support Russians.
They are and always have been our enemy in every way.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 17:48 - Apr 28 with 547 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Biden goes for 33 Billion Dollar package, in 2021 he put the brakes on support to Ukraine.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/12/16/us-ukraine-russia-military-support-congress

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Russia invade Ukraine on 18:02 - Apr 28 with 544 viewsBoundy

Russia invade Ukraine on 17:48 - Apr 28 by JACKMANANDBOY

Biden goes for 33 Billion Dollar package, in 2021 he put the brakes on support to Ukraine.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/12/16/us-ukraine-russia-military-support-congress


Times change as do policies .

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Russia invade Ukraine on 18:34 - Apr 28 with 528 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Russia invade Ukraine on 18:02 - Apr 28 by Boundy

Times change as do policies .


Thus was a few months ago when UK and EU countries were stepping up their support.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 18:41 - Apr 28 with 524 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 17:48 - Apr 28 by JACKMANANDBOY

Biden goes for 33 Billion Dollar package, in 2021 he put the brakes on support to Ukraine.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/12/16/us-ukraine-russia-military-support-congress


The Yanks are pulling the strings in the Ukraine

Kiev had no intention of negotiating a ceasefire because of orders given to them from Washington: “Fight Russia to the last Ukrainian!” Also, the Neo-Nazi goons around Zelensky threatened him if he negotiated and surrendered because they are terrified of the Russians.

So Zelensky launched a massive PR and propaganda campaign, primarily to motivate AFU forces to fight to the death. Myths were created (Ghost of Kiev), false flags were carried out (Bucha, Kramatorsk) and relentless media stories were flogged relentlessly.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 19:37 - Apr 28 with 508 viewsScotia

Russia invade Ukraine on 18:41 - Apr 28 by controversial_jack

The Yanks are pulling the strings in the Ukraine

Kiev had no intention of negotiating a ceasefire because of orders given to them from Washington: “Fight Russia to the last Ukrainian!” Also, the Neo-Nazi goons around Zelensky threatened him if he negotiated and surrendered because they are terrified of the Russians.

So Zelensky launched a massive PR and propaganda campaign, primarily to motivate AFU forces to fight to the death. Myths were created (Ghost of Kiev), false flags were carried out (Bucha, Kramatorsk) and relentless media stories were flogged relentlessly.


So was Putin following Bidens orders when he invaded Ukraine or are you just swallowing Kremlin propaganda?
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Russia invade Ukraine on 20:15 - Apr 28 with 497 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Russia invade Ukraine on 19:37 - Apr 28 by Scotia

So was Putin following Bidens orders when he invaded Ukraine or are you just swallowing Kremlin propaganda?


There was a US General on the Radio 4 PM programme today. He stated that Biden stopped support for Ukraine when he took over from Trump just as Russia was starting to build up its presence on the Ukraine border.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 23:08 - Apr 28 with 478 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 19:37 - Apr 28 by Scotia

So was Putin following Bidens orders when he invaded Ukraine or are you just swallowing Kremlin propaganda?


It's by an independent, Chilean, American journalist living in the Ukraine.
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