| Two facts for today 16:41 - Jan 8 with 3541 views | Catullus |
The UK has passed 150,000 covid deaths.
Th situation the NHS is in isn't new and is directly because of political incompetence, ineptitude and negligence over the last 30 years,
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/hea
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| Two facts for today on 18:24 - Jan 9 with 1129 views | Kilkennyjack |
Johnson Out.
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| Two facts for today on 18:29 - Jan 9 with 1118 views | onehunglow |
| Two facts for today on 18:24 - Jan 9 by Kilkennyjack |
Johnson Out.
Annibyniaeth ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿ |
I seriously think we should do a masterclass for this site to show how to exchange views that are different.
Are people really this shallow Killy.
Are we now looking at banning people because some are offended not by the content but by the poster.
I have to admit your posts have made me think and I am grateful for that. Better that than simply being dogmatic being afraid to be seen as wrong on here.
Its a lack of guts really. | |
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| Two facts for today on 20:30 - Jan 9 with 1072 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Two facts for today on 18:06 - Jan 9 by Brynmill_Jack |
I didn’t hear about this. So potentially half a million dead in China??? |
That is the problem no one has any idea, it was things posted from China on the internet.
As we know it is very hard to know what to believe, except the Chinese Communists, they lied about the virus from day one and allowed it to be spread all over the world. | | | |
| Two facts for today on 20:51 - Jan 9 with 1068 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Two facts for today on 18:29 - Jan 9 by onehunglow |
I seriously think we should do a masterclass for this site to show how to exchange views that are different.
Are people really this shallow Killy.
Are we now looking at banning people because some are offended not by the content but by the poster.
I have to admit your posts have made me think and I am grateful for that. Better that than simply being dogmatic being afraid to be seen as wrong on here.
Its a lack of guts really. |
Agreed OHL.
Lots of interesting posts and posters that make you think.
The truth is out there somewhere mate… ðŸ‘
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| Two facts for today on 21:10 - Jan 9 with 1057 views | Dr_Winston |
You'd have to be staggeringly naive to believe that the official Chinese death figures are anything but total horsesh*t. [Post edited 9 Jan 2022 21:11]
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| Two facts for today on 21:41 - Jan 9 with 1040 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Two facts for today on 21:10 - Jan 9 by Dr_Winston |
You'd have to be staggeringly naive to believe that the official Chinese death figures are anything but total horsesh*t. [Post edited 9 Jan 2022 21:11]
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Johnson is no better.
Untruth after untruth.
Wallpaper, lockdown parties, Brexit lies, covid corruption, and Russian involvement. | |
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| Two facts for today on 23:07 - Jan 9 with 1027 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Two facts for today on 21:41 - Jan 9 by Kilkennyjack |
Johnson is no better.
Untruth after untruth.
Wallpaper, lockdown parties, Brexit lies, covid corruption, and Russian involvement. |
Deaths and cases in Drakeford's Wales are higher than England's. | |
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| Two facts for today on 23:25 - Jan 9 with 1020 views | controversial_jack |
| Two facts for today on 23:07 - Jan 9 by felixstowe_jack |
Deaths and cases in Drakeford's Wales are higher than England's. |
The aren't! Mortality rates in England are higher of covid patients , in England is 1.0468%, in Wales it's 0.937%. Per population in England it's 0.22% and wales it's 0.207%. | | | |
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| Two facts for today on 07:07 - Jan 10 with 995 views | Dr_Winston |
| Two facts for today on 21:41 - Jan 9 by Kilkennyjack |
Johnson is no better.
Untruth after untruth.
Wallpaper, lockdown parties, Brexit lies, covid corruption, and Russian involvement. |
"Yeah but Johnson. Yeah but Johnson"
Change the f*cking record. This one skips. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Two facts for today on 08:50 - Jan 10 with 983 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Two facts for today on 23:25 - Jan 9 by controversial_jack |
The aren't! Mortality rates in England are higher of covid patients , in England is 1.0468%, in Wales it's 0.937%. Per population in England it's 0.22% and wales it's 0.207%. |
Depends which mortality figures you use
According to ONS deaths certificates which mention covoid in Wales are 40% higher than the deaths within 28 days figures.
Perhaps an enquiry in Wales with get to the bottom of this disparity. According to PHW deaths within 28days include hospitals, SOME care homes, do not include hospices or Some Home deaths.
In England the disparity is only 11% | |
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| Two facts for today on 10:18 - Jan 10 with 970 views | jack_lord |
| Two facts for today on 08:50 - Jan 10 by felixstowe_jack |
Depends which mortality figures you use
According to ONS deaths certificates which mention covoid in Wales are 40% higher than the deaths within 28 days figures.
Perhaps an enquiry in Wales with get to the bottom of this disparity. According to PHW deaths within 28days include hospitals, SOME care homes, do not include hospices or Some Home deaths.
In England the disparity is only 11% |
Very latest release in the ons
The number of deaths involving COVID-19 in England increased to 797in Week 51, compared with 702 in Week 50; for Wales, deaths involving COVID-19 decreased to 49 in Week 51, compared with 51 in Week 50.
OK, that shows a decrease week on week in Wales and an increase in England but England has a population 17.5 times that of Wales so the comparative figure would have Wales with a higher rate. This may be why Drakeford is sticking with his decision. |  |
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| Two facts for today on 11:30 - Jan 10 with 948 views | Catullus |
| Two facts for today on 17:51 - Jan 9 by A_Fans_Dad |
No, it is not the west's anti China narrative, it came out of China itself.
The number of Crematorium Incinerators running 24/7 for weeks at a time.
The sudden drop out of half a million Mobile phones in use.
If you have no reason the think they are less honest than other countries then you weren't paying attention to the start of the pandemic. |
And we have common ground.
PS Brynnie, look up the Uighur Muslims, and you contro,
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/chi | |
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| Two facts for today on 13:41 - Jan 10 with 922 views | Boundy |
| Two facts for today on 11:46 - Jan 9 by Brynmill_Jack |
Another fact for you - China 5,000 deaths. Work that one out |
To be clear , is that one day ? | |
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| Two facts for today on 14:13 - Jan 10 with 907 views | onehunglow |
| Two facts for today on 13:41 - Jan 10 by Boundy |
To be clear , is that one day ? |
Facts eh
5000 Chinese deaths .
That could be per hour | |
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| Two facts for today on 14:43 - Jan 10 with 901 views | Professor |
| Two facts for today on 21:10 - Jan 9 by Dr_Winston |
You'd have to be staggeringly naive to believe that the official Chinese death figures are anything but total horsesh*t. [Post edited 9 Jan 2022 21:11]
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Enid Blyton- same as Russia and India. All in reality much higher. India's real death toll is likely 3-4 million. | | | |
| Two facts for today on 14:55 - Jan 10 with 884 views | 1462jack |
| Two facts for today on 13:41 - Jan 10 by Boundy |
To be clear , is that one day ? |
103,776 cases and 4638 deaths in total , according to world info meter , something not right there |  | | |
| Two facts for today on 15:03 - Jan 10 with 879 views | majorraglan |
| Two facts for today on 14:55 - Jan 10 by 1462jack |
103,776 cases and 4638 deaths in total , according to world info meter , something not right there |
Currently have 2 cities in lockdown one of which has been subject to restrictions since 23.12.21, there is no way the Chinese would shut down 2 cities containing over 14m inhabitants for an illness that’s taken the lives of 5,000 people. Half a million sounds far more like it. [Post edited 10 Jan 2022 21:31]
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| Two facts for today on 16:40 - Jan 10 with 853 views | controversial_jack |
Today China with a population of 1.5 billion had 157 cases. NPT with 140k had 3 times that amount. The Chinese don't mess about | | | |
| Two facts for today on 17:02 - Jan 10 with 847 views | jack_lord |
| Two facts for today on 16:40 - Jan 10 by controversial_jack |
Today China with a population of 1.5 billion had 157 cases. NPT with 140k had 3 times that amount. The Chinese don't mess about |
Today China with a population of 1.5 billion had 157 cases. NPT with 140k had 3 times that amount. The Chinese don't mess about when it comes to fabrication
*finished off the sentence for you. | |
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| Two facts for today on 17:08 - Jan 10 with 845 views | controversial_jack |
| Two facts for today on 17:02 - Jan 10 by jack_lord |
Today China with a population of 1.5 billion had 157 cases. NPT with 140k had 3 times that amount. The Chinese don't mess about when it comes to fabrication
*finished off the sentence for you. |
Can you prove that they did or is that just your own personal bias or agenda? We are lucky that we don't have a govt that lies | | | |
| Two facts for today on 19:45 - Jan 10 with 830 views | Catullus |
| Two facts for today on 17:08 - Jan 10 by controversial_jack |
Can you prove that they did or is that just your own personal bias or agenda? We are lucky that we don't have a govt that lies |
Our government lies, politicians lie. There is a massive difference though, the Uk wouldn't pen up 100's of thousands of a minority group in "re-education" camps which are, in reality, work/concentration camps. I wonder what the Chinese is for "Arbeit macht Frei"?
https://www.saveuighur.org/cam
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/wor
https://www.vox.com/2020/7/28/
But hey, don't let torture and oppression cloud your judgement. Of course, everybody outside China that says bad things about them could be lying, same with Russia, it's the rest of us nasty people ganging up on them, obviously. | |
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| Two facts for today on 20:55 - Jan 10 with 818 views | controversial_jack |
| Two facts for today on 19:45 - Jan 10 by Catullus |
Our government lies, politicians lie. There is a massive difference though, the Uk wouldn't pen up 100's of thousands of a minority group in "re-education" camps which are, in reality, work/concentration camps. I wonder what the Chinese is for "Arbeit macht Frei"?
https://www.saveuighur.org/cam
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/wor
https://www.vox.com/2020/7/28/
But hey, don't let torture and oppression cloud your judgement. Of course, everybody outside China that says bad things about them could be lying, same with Russia, it's the rest of us nasty people ganging up on them, obviously. |
It is probably part of the Wests anti China agenda | | | |
| Two facts for today on 21:54 - Jan 10 with 793 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Two facts for today on 19:45 - Jan 10 by Catullus |
Our government lies, politicians lie. There is a massive difference though, the Uk wouldn't pen up 100's of thousands of a minority group in "re-education" camps which are, in reality, work/concentration camps. I wonder what the Chinese is for "Arbeit macht Frei"?
https://www.saveuighur.org/cam
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/wor
https://www.vox.com/2020/7/28/
But hey, don't let torture and oppression cloud your judgement. Of course, everybody outside China that says bad things about them could be lying, same with Russia, it's the rest of us nasty people ganging up on them, obviously. |
Everybody lies. Don’t limit it just to the Chinese. |  |
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| Two facts for today on 08:50 - Jan 11 with 760 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Two facts for today on 21:54 - Jan 10 by Brynmill_Jack |
Everybody lies. Don’t limit it just to the Chinese. |
But most countries don't suppress democracy like China. Deliberately kill their own citizens like China, lock up millions of their own citizens in re-education camps like China. Stop people practicing their religion like China. Suppress free speech like China. Block outside Internet access like China.
You could always move to China if you like it so much. | |
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| Two facts for today on 08:57 - Jan 11 with 756 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Two facts for today on 10:18 - Jan 10 by jack_lord |
Very latest release in the ons
The number of deaths involving COVID-19 in England increased to 797in Week 51, compared with 702 in Week 50; for Wales, deaths involving COVID-19 decreased to 49 in Week 51, compared with 51 in Week 50.
OK, that shows a decrease week on week in Wales and an increase in England but England has a population 17.5 times that of Wales so the comparative figure would have Wales with a higher rate. This may be why Drakeford is sticking with his decision. |
I agree a higher death rate in Wales despite tougher restrictions.
Make you wonder if stopping vaccinated people attending sports events outdoors is having any effect. Perhaps stopping the unvaccinated from going to supermarkets would have better results. | |
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