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Angela Rayner 18:32 - Feb 19 with 6778 viewsCatullus

Well then, it seems as if sections of Labour are turning toryesque on us.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Angela Rayner on 18:46 - Feb 20 with 1351 viewstrampie

Angela Rayner on 18:31 - Feb 20 by jack_lord

They are not red tories. That is almost certainly not a thing unlike jews for jesus. They are just far more social democratic than you would like. I'm going to hark back to the late 19th and early 20th century. The foundations of the party were not all socialist but a mixture of social democratic voters which eventually saw the decline of the Liberal party.


Keir Hardie often said to be the founder of the Labour party is often described as a dedicated socialist, I think even the Encyclopedia Britannica describes him as such.

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Angela Rayner on 19:02 - Feb 20 with 1333 viewsjack_lord

Angela Rayner on 18:46 - Feb 20 by trampie

Keir Hardie often said to be the founder of the Labour party is often described as a dedicated socialist, I think even the Encyclopedia Britannica describes him as such.


A good man who believed in a system that fought against another political dogma in a period of huge inequality. He was dedicated to a marxist society though and was just one facet in what became the Labour party.

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Angela Rayner on 19:16 - Feb 20 with 1325 viewstrampie

Angela Rayner on 19:02 - Feb 20 by jack_lord

A good man who believed in a system that fought against another political dogma in a period of huge inequality. He was dedicated to a marxist society though and was just one facet in what became the Labour party.


He was the main man.

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Angela Rayner on 19:36 - Feb 20 with 1308 viewsjack_lord

Angela Rayner on 19:16 - Feb 20 by trampie

He was the main man.


He was one man part of a much bigger movement. He did win the "election" become leader of the new party by one vote.

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Angela Rayner on 21:12 - Feb 20 with 1274 viewsFlashberryjack

Angela Rayner on 11:46 - Feb 20 by Flynnidine_Zidownes

Ha! She’s a strange one alright. For the past few years she’s been on her knees railing against vicious police brutality and systemic and institutional racism, misogyny and homophobia. Now suddenly she’s endorsing extrajudicial summary executions on the roadside. Make your mind up mate.

She really is an idiot. How she’s been parachuted into such a position when she left school with more kids than GCSEs is beyond me.


Probably been on the pop again.

I wouldn't.

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Angela Rayner on 12:56 - Feb 21 with 1207 viewsraynor94

Angela Rayner on 11:46 - Feb 20 by Flynnidine_Zidownes

Ha! She’s a strange one alright. For the past few years she’s been on her knees railing against vicious police brutality and systemic and institutional racism, misogyny and homophobia. Now suddenly she’s endorsing extrajudicial summary executions on the roadside. Make your mind up mate.

She really is an idiot. How she’s been parachuted into such a position when she left school with more kids than GCSEs is beyond me.


That last paragraph creased me

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Angela Rayner on 15:08 - Feb 21 with 1166 viewsonehunglow

Angela Rayner on 12:56 - Feb 21 by raynor94

That last paragraph creased me


There again, she got herself off the ground and made a good career for herself

The poorest people need the most protection.

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Angela Rayner on 15:43 - Feb 21 with 1161 viewsCatullus

Angela Rayner on 12:56 - Feb 21 by raynor94

That last paragraph creased me


Well she may only have a similar education to myself but, there are plenty of degree educated politicians who are just as bad, gobshites, liars, cheats, incompetents and pretty much criminal too.

Is a poorly educated idiot worse than a well educated idiot, for comparison, Bojo has a degree, Classics i think. Then there's Rees-Mogg......Hancock...

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Angela Rayner on 16:04 - Feb 21 with 1151 viewsonehunglow

Angela Rayner on 15:43 - Feb 21 by Catullus

Well she may only have a similar education to myself but, there are plenty of degree educated politicians who are just as bad, gobshites, liars, cheats, incompetents and pretty much criminal too.

Is a poorly educated idiot worse than a well educated idiot, for comparison, Bojo has a degree, Classics i think. Then there's Rees-Mogg......Hancock...


Bojo IS a classic

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Angela Rayner on 16:43 - Feb 21 with 1140 viewspencoedjack

A very sexy lady.

Id love the opportunity to change her political views more to the right.
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Angela Rayner on 17:01 - Feb 21 with 1129 viewsonehunglow

Angela Rayner on 16:43 - Feb 21 by pencoedjack

A very sexy lady.

Id love the opportunity to change her political views more to the right.


We ve both had worse ,pen.
No offence

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Angela Rayner on 17:38 - Feb 21 with 1116 viewstrampie

Angela Rayner has overcome many of life's obstacles that others are fortunate not to have had to face, she wasn't born with a silver spoon in her mouth and did not seem to have any advantages growing up and starting out, she has achieved more in her life (from a very low starting base) than 99.99% of the population, it's someone like her the country needs, I look up to her achievements against the odds, I think the sneering middle classes will try and look down on her and if she was leader expect the Tory press to try and diss her which would be awful but expected judging by their behaviour.

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Angela Rayner on 18:20 - Feb 21 with 1095 viewsCatullus

Angela Rayner on 17:38 - Feb 21 by trampie

Angela Rayner has overcome many of life's obstacles that others are fortunate not to have had to face, she wasn't born with a silver spoon in her mouth and did not seem to have any advantages growing up and starting out, she has achieved more in her life (from a very low starting base) than 99.99% of the population, it's someone like her the country needs, I look up to her achievements against the odds, I think the sneering middle classes will try and look down on her and if she was leader expect the Tory press to try and diss her which would be awful but expected judging by their behaviour.


There's people in her own party, including Starmer, who don't really want her there. it's just Starmer is too wet to get rid of her.

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Angela Rayner on 18:23 - Feb 21 with 1092 viewspencoedjack

Angela Rayner on 17:38 - Feb 21 by trampie

Angela Rayner has overcome many of life's obstacles that others are fortunate not to have had to face, she wasn't born with a silver spoon in her mouth and did not seem to have any advantages growing up and starting out, she has achieved more in her life (from a very low starting base) than 99.99% of the population, it's someone like her the country needs, I look up to her achievements against the odds, I think the sneering middle classes will try and look down on her and if she was leader expect the Tory press to try and diss her which would be awful but expected judging by their behaviour.


I think many people have had upbringings similar to Ms Rayners

Nan brought them up as her mum was Ill (or working)

Sunday baths due to lack of hot water

Being fed something obscure due to your parents lack of cooking skills.

I disagree that she has done better than 99.9 of the population as well.

I come from a working class background & would never vote for her as her belief’s would take away most of the security I have worked my balls off to achieve & give it to scroungers who think they can have something for nothing, those who need it I am more than happy to pay my taxes too.
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Angela Rayner on 18:41 - Feb 21 with 1071 viewstrampie

Angela Rayner on 18:23 - Feb 21 by pencoedjack

I think many people have had upbringings similar to Ms Rayners

Nan brought them up as her mum was Ill (or working)

Sunday baths due to lack of hot water

Being fed something obscure due to your parents lack of cooking skills.

I disagree that she has done better than 99.9 of the population as well.

I come from a working class background & would never vote for her as her belief’s would take away most of the security I have worked my balls off to achieve & give it to scroungers who think they can have something for nothing, those who need it I am more than happy to pay my taxes too.




"She grew up on a council estate in Stockport; had a mother who couldn’t read or write; left school without any qualifications; got pregnant at 16 and left home to bring the child up alone (“If you’re old enough to get pregnant, you’re old enough to look after it,” her father told her). She is now the mother of three boys, one of whom was born at 23 weeks and is registered blind. "
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Angela Rayner on 18:46 - Feb 21 with 1057 viewstrampie

Here is the Daily Male take on her upbringing or is it Daily Fail :-


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne

"Angela Rayner, 41, claims her mother fed her dog food and shaving foam because she could not read labels and in 'modern times' she 'definitely' would have been taken away by social services as she opens up about growing up in poverty"

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Angela Rayner on 18:52 - Feb 21 with 1051 viewspencoedjack

Angela Rayner on 18:41 - Feb 21 by trampie



"She grew up on a council estate in Stockport; had a mother who couldn’t read or write; left school without any qualifications; got pregnant at 16 and left home to bring the child up alone (“If you’re old enough to get pregnant, you’re old enough to look after it,” her father told her). She is now the mother of three boys, one of whom was born at 23 weeks and is registered blind. "
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& you think others haven’t had life as tough?

Hats off to Rayner for showing what you can do with your life no matter what obstacles are thrown in front of you, I can see similarities with my own life.
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Angela Rayner on 18:56 - Feb 21 with 1047 viewstrampie

Angela Rayner on 18:52 - Feb 21 by pencoedjack

& you think others haven’t had life as tough?

Hats off to Rayner for showing what you can do with your life no matter what obstacles are thrown in front of you, I can see similarities with my own life.
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Plenty of others have had it tough but to reach the top of society in her circumstances is a success that others don't achieve, she started as a home help, became a full time trade union convenor representing 200,000 workers, MP, shadow sec for education and deputy leader.

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Angela Rayner on 19:07 - Feb 21 with 1031 viewstrampie


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Angela Rayner on 08:16 - Feb 22 with 952 viewsCatullus

Angela Rayner on 18:56 - Feb 21 by trampie

Plenty of others have had it tough but to reach the top of society in her circumstances is a success that others don't achieve, she started as a home help, became a full time trade union convenor representing 200,000 workers, MP, shadow sec for education and deputy leader.


She's done well yes but "top of society"? Our current politicans are the Peter principle in full flow, look at Bojo, he's top of the tree but the lowest of the low.

The top of society, in my opinion, are those who selflessly do things for others and ask for no reward. There are millions in this country who are far better than the vast majority of the ass warmers in Westminster, whichever house you look at.

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Angela Rayner on 09:11 - Feb 22 with 942 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

Angela Rayner on 15:43 - Feb 21 by Catullus

Well she may only have a similar education to myself but, there are plenty of degree educated politicians who are just as bad, gobshites, liars, cheats, incompetents and pretty much criminal too.

Is a poorly educated idiot worse than a well educated idiot, for comparison, Bojo has a degree, Classics i think. Then there's Rees-Mogg......Hancock...


That’s the point. We complain (rightly) when people get promoted above their competency because they’re rich and have connections, but when someone is promoted above their competency because they’re poor and underprivileged it’s seen as a positive thing, when in fact it’s the same result. Posh idiot or poor idiot? Can we just not have idiots?
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Angela Rayner on 09:54 - Feb 22 with 916 viewstrampie

Angela Rayner on 09:11 - Feb 22 by Flynnidine_Zidownes

That’s the point. We complain (rightly) when people get promoted above their competency because they’re rich and have connections, but when someone is promoted above their competency because they’re poor and underprivileged it’s seen as a positive thing, when in fact it’s the same result. Posh idiot or poor idiot? Can we just not have idiots?


She has proved herself in many facets, showing an ability to learn quickly, adapt, problem solve, that is far more intelligent than remembering something from a book that might be outdated or even wrong as a lot of academic people can't think for themselves.

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Angela Rayner on 11:18 - Feb 22 with 893 viewspencoedjack

Angela Rayner on 09:54 - Feb 22 by trampie

She has proved herself in many facets, showing an ability to learn quickly, adapt, problem solve, that is far more intelligent than remembering something from a book that might be outdated or even wrong as a lot of academic people can't think for themselves.


I presume you have similar thoughts on a green grocers daughter from the North of England.
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Angela Rayner on 11:38 - Feb 22 with 881 viewscontroversial_jack

Angela Rayner on 11:18 - Feb 22 by pencoedjack

I presume you have similar thoughts on a green grocers daughter from the North of England.


But she turn out to be a right c*nt
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Angela Rayner on 11:50 - Feb 22 with 867 viewstrampie

Angela Rayner on 11:18 - Feb 22 by pencoedjack

I presume you have similar thoughts on a green grocers daughter from the North of England.


No Mrs Thatcher came from a privileged background her father was a business owner and mayor, Angela Rayner's background was the complete opposite.

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