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The possession fallacy 22:10 - Feb 19 with 2612 viewsDr_Parnassus

I have said a few times that our possession stats aren't through ability and dominance (rarely anyway) but as a product of both our tactics and the oppositions.

Allowing us to have possession and play the way we do is sometimes as good for the opposition as them having it. The high press is deployed and instead of creating excellent chances themselves, they allow us to create them for them.

Sheffield United certainly used this understanding to do just that as confirmed by the manager.

Heckingbottom said: “(There are) different way to create chances.

“If you compare it with Hull when all our chances came from us and our good play.

“You can sometimes get the best opportunities winning the ball high when a team’s split. Swansea give you that.”

So when we come away with 70% possession and a defeat and Martin claims we dominated as a result, we probably haven't. My concern is he doesn't seem to recognise this.

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The possession fallacy on 17:05 - Feb 21 with 624 viewsonehunglow

The possession fallacy on 16:34 - Feb 21 by STID2017

That is the biggest worry.
Two of the things that need fixing I feel everyone can see yet he cannot or will not change
If he does not see it then he needs assistants with him to point it out
If he can see it and is ignoring it then that is arrogance beyond belief and will be his undoing


You do know I agree with you 100%.

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The possession fallacy on 17:27 - Feb 21 with 613 viewsunion_jack

The possession fallacy on 17:05 - Feb 21 by onehunglow

You do know I agree with you 100%.


It’s reminiscent of Toshack and Dai Davies. To this day I’ve not understood it.

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The possession fallacy on 18:29 - Feb 21 with 579 viewsCatullus

The possession fallacy on 17:27 - Feb 21 by union_jack

It’s reminiscent of Toshack and Dai Davies. To this day I’ve not understood it.


Nor me, I still feel Dai Stewart deserved a chance and that he was the better keeper.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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The possession fallacy on 18:38 - Feb 21 with 576 viewsvetchonian

The possession fallacy on 18:29 - Feb 21 by Catullus

Nor me, I still feel Dai Stewart deserved a chance and that he was the better keeper.


I'd agree too and dont even go down the Glan let em in Letharan road

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The possession fallacy on 19:00 - Feb 21 with 564 viewsunion_jack

The possession fallacy on 18:29 - Feb 21 by Catullus

Nor me, I still feel Dai Stewart deserved a chance and that he was the better keeper.


I was lucky enough to bump into Dave Stewart 3 to 4 years back whilst waiting for my haircut. I wasn’t going to say anything just in case it wasn’t him (the longer I sat next to him the more certain I became) but decided to as I had the chance. I said to him that he was harshly dealt with and very fondly regarded by the Swans faithful. I sort of expected a comme ci comme ca response but he totally agreed with me and you could see it hurt to that day.

Can’t believe he’s no longer with us, though he didn’t look too well when I saw him.

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The possession fallacy on 20:52 - Feb 21 with 531 viewsonehunglow

The possession fallacy on 17:27 - Feb 21 by union_jack

It’s reminiscent of Toshack and Dai Davies. To this day I’ve not understood it.


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The possession fallacy on 01:25 - Feb 23 with 487 viewsSwaneeRiver

Agree and he needs to learn and fast !
He needs a Plan B and to change his formation and tactics in order to ensure we are not beaten in that manner again.
Better sides may win, but Sheffield United didn't need to get out of 2nd gear to beat us
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The possession fallacy on 18:11 - Feb 23 with 458 viewsSTID2017

The possession fallacy on 01:25 - Feb 23 by SwaneeRiver

Agree and he needs to learn and fast !
He needs a Plan B and to change his formation and tactics in order to ensure we are not beaten in that manner again.
Better sides may win, but Sheffield United didn't need to get out of 2nd gear to beat us


Sadly no, doubt they Sheff Utd have many easier victories
Let's hope we see a change next Monday as you say in format and tactics

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The possession fallacy on 19:22 - Feb 23 with 445 viewsCatullus

The possession fallacy on 19:00 - Feb 21 by union_jack

I was lucky enough to bump into Dave Stewart 3 to 4 years back whilst waiting for my haircut. I wasn’t going to say anything just in case it wasn’t him (the longer I sat next to him the more certain I became) but decided to as I had the chance. I said to him that he was harshly dealt with and very fondly regarded by the Swans faithful. I sort of expected a comme ci comme ca response but he totally agreed with me and you could see it hurt to that day.

Can’t believe he’s no longer with us, though he didn’t look too well when I saw him.


I'd have done the same thing. Maybe it did still hurt but then, maybe a fan telling him (all those years later) that he deserved better and the fans loved him made him feel better.

I was only a bog standard local league player but I still remember some injustices that pee'd me off!

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The possession fallacy on 19:30 - Feb 23 with 438 viewsSTID2017

The possession fallacy on 19:22 - Feb 23 by Catullus

I'd have done the same thing. Maybe it did still hurt but then, maybe a fan telling him (all those years later) that he deserved better and the fans loved him made him feel better.

I was only a bog standard local league player but I still remember some injustices that pee'd me off!


I still play every week ( nothing formal just friendlies) but as you say things happen even in these games that pee me off

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