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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... 14:44 - Mar 17 with 7294 viewsSTID2017

Apparently with immediate effect, men in balaclavas manhandling them off the ships as they were staging a sit in.
To be replaced with agency staff.
Apparently been making a £100 million loss for several years, yet only now they take action to reduce costs and in such a callous manner ?

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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 14:18 - Mar 26 with 1200 viewsmajorraglan

P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 09:20 - Mar 26 by Lorax

Th legal protection was there though. The P&O CEO has admitted to knowingly breaking the law and says he'd do it again.

The only question left now is what will the government do about it. They're saying the CEO should resign but he and anybody who knew about or voted for this action should be facing investigation and police action.
Mind you, as he admitted knowing it was illegal he has confessed so the police should just arrest him.

I wonder, if P&O did this as a financial necessity, did any of the board, the CEO or senior management face a drop in their wages?


There is legal protection which has been breached, but to nowhere near the safeguards they have in France. Looks like P&O are now under the microscope with regards to the pension scheme which is in deficit, they have allegedly over inflated the value of the ferries being used as security for the deficit.
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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 21:51 - Mar 26 with 1159 viewsKilkennyjack

P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 21:15 - Mar 25 by raynor94

It's not that difficult to answer, I'm a lifetime member of the GMB, so which union are you a member of?


Dont believe you have ever had a job, let alone join a union.
Pull the other one.

I could tell you TGWU, but what would it prove ?

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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 21:53 - Mar 26 with 1158 viewsKilkennyjack



God bless our fellow EU workers. 🇪🇺

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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 22:39 - Mar 26 with 1152 viewsLorax

P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 21:53 - Mar 26 by Kilkennyjack



God bless our fellow EU workers. 🇪🇺

Feck Johnson.


We're not in the EU you "div"
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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 22:43 - Mar 26 with 1150 viewsLorax

P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 14:18 - Mar 26 by majorraglan

There is legal protection which has been breached, but to nowhere near the safeguards they have in France. Looks like P&O are now under the microscope with regards to the pension scheme which is in deficit, they have allegedly over inflated the value of the ferries being used as security for the deficit.


P&O have broken the law, the only remaining question is what will the government do about it?

There has been a big backlash. The P&O CEO is a hated man and now even more dodgy info is surfacing.

We may not have as strong safeguards as they do in France but even so, this didn't happen because we left the EU and there was no protection in UK law. This happened, I'm willing to bet, because the board and CEO wanted to protect their wages and bonuses, self serving greed seems mst likely to me.
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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 09:38 - Mar 27 with 1116 viewsraynor94

P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 21:51 - Mar 26 by Kilkennyjack

Dont believe you have ever had a job, let alone join a union.
Pull the other one.

I could tell you TGWU, but what would it prove ?


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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 09:48 - Mar 27 with 1111 viewsonehunglow

P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 09:38 - Mar 27 by raynor94

42 years with British Steel, how about you?

Although I have a feeling you are ensconced on fantasy Island


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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 10:39 - Mar 27 with 1099 viewscontroversial_jack

P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 09:38 - Mar 27 by raynor94

42 years with British Steel, how about you?

Although I have a feeling you are ensconced on fantasy Island


A nice little job from school to retirement. A thing of the past that!
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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 20:33 - Mar 27 with 1071 viewsKilkennyjack

P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 09:38 - Mar 27 by raynor94

42 years with British Steel, how about you?

Although I have a feeling you are ensconced on fantasy Island


Did you ever get any extra responsibilities, or promotions ?

Given tbe impressive longevity of your employment and your obviously towering intellect, i am expecting great things.

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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 20:51 - Mar 27 with 1044 viewsKilkennyjack

P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 22:39 - Mar 26 by Lorax

We're not in the EU you "div"


Thats the whole point of the post, you divot.

🙄

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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 20:58 - Mar 27 with 1044 viewsraynor94

P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 20:33 - Mar 27 by Kilkennyjack

Did you ever get any extra responsibilities, or promotions ?

Given tbe impressive longevity of your employment and your obviously towering intellect, i am expecting great things.


Have you ever worked? I'd be mightily impressed if you said you had.

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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 16:25 - Mar 28 with 1014 viewsLorax

P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 20:51 - Mar 27 by Kilkennyjack

Thats the whole point of the post, you divot.

🙄


have you yet gotten your head around the fact that it was an EU directive that UK was adapted to (which we hadn't yet changed back) that allowed P&O to do this without telling the UK government. AND, even so they still broke UK employment law.

You and Ebo were wrong, can you admit to that.

PS, your point was to big up the EU and talk the EU down AGAIN. Yet AGAIN you were wrong.
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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 14:49 - Mar 29 with 988 viewscontroversial_jack

i'm not sure how enforcing employment law works. It's a civil matter, so i'm assuming an employee or trade union would have to take out a claim against P & O as a company. Nothing to do with the govt is my guess.
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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 15:15 - Mar 29 with 975 viewsLohengrin

P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 14:49 - Mar 29 by controversial_jack

i'm not sure how enforcing employment law works. It's a civil matter, so i'm assuming an employee or trade union would have to take out a claim against P & O as a company. Nothing to do with the govt is my guess.


I’m sure there are mechanisms available by which Government can directly intervene. I’m no expert here, it’s not my field at all, but I’d have thought the 2018 Taylor Review on Working Practices would provide a starting point forming, as it did, a key plank in this administration’s industrial strategy.

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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 16:24 - Mar 29 with 950 viewsLorax

P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 14:49 - Mar 29 by controversial_jack

i'm not sure how enforcing employment law works. It's a civil matter, so i'm assuming an employee or trade union would have to take out a claim against P & O as a company. Nothing to do with the govt is my guess.


The government has tried to do something and is saying it will change the law so this can't happen again,

https://news.sky.com/story/p-o

The reality here is, P&O s in trouble, there has been a big backlash, I think they'll find footfall is down as people look for other companies and the authorities are closing down their ferries if they don't meet the regs. They were going to send these ferries back out with crews not fit for purpose.
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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 16:39 - Mar 29 with 945 viewsfelixstowe_jack

P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 16:24 - Mar 29 by Lorax

The government has tried to do something and is saying it will change the law so this can't happen again,

https://news.sky.com/story/p-o

The reality here is, P&O s in trouble, there has been a big backlash, I think they'll find footfall is down as people look for other companies and the authorities are closing down their ferries if they don't meet the regs. They were going to send these ferries back out with crews not fit for purpose.


Seems a tremendous own goal by the inept management of P&O.

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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 19:14 - Mar 29 with 920 viewsKeithHaynes

P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 16:39 - Mar 29 by felixstowe_jack

Seems a tremendous own goal by the inept management of P&O.


Possibly if you make such a decision as a ceo etc …
As a result you get the boot and a decent financial package.
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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 19:26 - Mar 29 with 898 viewsKilkennyjack

P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 20:58 - Mar 27 by raynor94

Have you ever worked? I'd be mightily impressed if you said you had.


Thats a no from you then.

I thought as much.

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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 19:29 - Mar 29 with 897 viewsKilkennyjack

P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 16:25 - Mar 28 by Lorax

have you yet gotten your head around the fact that it was an EU directive that UK was adapted to (which we hadn't yet changed back) that allowed P&O to do this without telling the UK government. AND, even so they still broke UK employment law.

You and Ebo were wrong, can you admit to that.

PS, your point was to big up the EU and talk the EU down AGAIN. Yet AGAIN you were wrong.


Lorax - you are like a div mun.

Read your PS again.
I am not helping you.

You make zero sense.

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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 11:03 - Mar 30 with 854 viewsfelixstowe_jack

P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 19:29 - Mar 29 by Kilkennyjack

Lorax - you are like a div mun.

Read your PS again.
I am not helping you.

You make zero sense.


Says the expert on making silly Post.

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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 11:42 - Mar 30 with 848 viewscontroversial_jack

P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 16:24 - Mar 29 by Lorax

The government has tried to do something and is saying it will change the law so this can't happen again,

https://news.sky.com/story/p-o

The reality here is, P&O s in trouble, there has been a big backlash, I think they'll find footfall is down as people look for other companies and the authorities are closing down their ferries if they don't meet the regs. They were going to send these ferries back out with crews not fit for purpose.


The laws are already in force though. Someone has to take them to court would be my guess.
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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 17:03 - Mar 30 with 827 viewsLorax

P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 11:42 - Mar 30 by controversial_jack

The laws are already in force though. Someone has to take them to court would be my guess.


No, the laws already in place will remain, the government is talking about beefing them up, about making ferry companies running from the UK paying the UK minimum wage.

Someone would have to take them to court now but apparently the vast majority of the fired staff have agreed to the compensation packages. Which puzzles me, I don't see how P&O can be better off, they've paid out millions in the redundancy deals and now they face having a new aw forcing them to up their wages.

I still have to ask, this financial situation, did any of the board or the CEO have to take any pay and/or bonus cuts? I'd guess not, thy probably sacked these people so they could keep getting their obscene bonuses.
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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 18:29 - Mar 30 with 810 viewsmajorraglan

P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 17:03 - Mar 30 by Lorax

No, the laws already in place will remain, the government is talking about beefing them up, about making ferry companies running from the UK paying the UK minimum wage.

Someone would have to take them to court now but apparently the vast majority of the fired staff have agreed to the compensation packages. Which puzzles me, I don't see how P&O can be better off, they've paid out millions in the redundancy deals and now they face having a new aw forcing them to up their wages.

I still have to ask, this financial situation, did any of the board or the CEO have to take any pay and/or bonus cuts? I'd guess not, thy probably sacked these people so they could keep getting their obscene bonuses.


The attached from todays Guardian provides a little more information on what’s happened and what’s historically happened on other lines. Begs the question if politicians could have taken action to prevent this situation arising?

https://www.theguardian.com/bu
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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 10:13 - Mar 31 with 793 viewscontroversial_jack

This country is getting more like the US every day
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P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 22:47 - Mar 31 with 779 viewsKilkennyjack

P&O Ferries Make 800 Redundant... on 10:13 - Mar 31 by controversial_jack

This country is getting more like the US every day


Thats the plan.

Deregulate everything, dressed up as a ukip patriotism wet dream.
The working man gets to work like a dog, with his rights stripped away.

Meanwhile the Eton posh boys loot the Treasury, as the vip lane for covid contracts underlines.

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