| Rishi v Liz 21:19 - Jul 25 with 5328 views | raynor94 |
She's taking a battering, cringe worthy |  |
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| Rishi v Liz on 17:21 - Jul 26 with 991 views | onehunglow |
| Rishi v Liz on 14:51 - Jul 26 by Catullus |
Truss has apparently got around 54% of members support. I don't remember where I saw it, I was reading an online news feed which brings up stories from many different sources.
Again apparently, tax cuts won't affect a lot of the memberships (so much) who are already well off and possbly older and retired. These are people who are already OK despite everything. They don't mind the Hoi Polloi being taxed to the hilt. |
I have the same feeling of British politics as I do of my improper Football club .
Utter bemusement and feel totally burned out by them both.
I want inspiration and neither Surakarta or Liz would inspire me ,at least not in politics . [Post edited 26 Jul 2022 17:21]
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| Rishi v Liz on 18:47 - Jul 26 with 937 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Rishi v Liz on 12:12 - Jul 26 by 73__73 |
Who will old black men vote for ? |
If they can find any in the Tory Membership, they will ask them. They are hugely older, white, based in the SE |  | | |
| Rishi v Liz on 19:05 - Jul 26 with 922 views | 73__73 |
| Rishi v Liz on 18:47 - Jul 26 by Sirjohnalot |
If they can find any in the Tory Membership, they will ask them. They are hugely older, white, based in the SE |
Yes but why do you need to mention the colour ? Or do you think older white men shouldn’t have a voice ?
You wouldn’t be brave enough substitute the word white for black or gay etc and use it in the same context in another scenario. | |
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| Rishi v Liz on 19:22 - Jul 26 with 902 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Rishi v Liz on 19:05 - Jul 26 by 73__73 |
Yes but why do you need to mention the colour ? Or do you think older white men shouldn’t have a voice ?
You wouldn’t be brave enough substitute the word white for black or gay etc and use it in the same context in another scenario. |
Fair enough question but being white and knowing older white Tory voters, and seeing them on programmes like QT and reading various stats and voting intentions. Older white, Tories are more inclined to vote for Brexit, and prefer candidates who are white.
There have been surveys done to ask people how they vote and their views on topics. The Tory party is dominated by older, white, men who live in the SE of England. That is a fact. Whilst the Tory MPs are ethnically diverse, I would suggest the party is not.
You do make a very fair point re the black or gay vote, but I again, I would suggest people from ethnic minorities or groups who have been marginalised would be more likely (of course not as a rule) to be attracted to parties like labour.
One of the reasons being s28 was introduced by the Tory Party and only repealed in 2003, I think. Certainly out of my black and gay friends and people I know in work, I don't think any of them are Tory supporters. | | | |
| Rishi v Liz on 19:25 - Jul 26 with 899 views | CountyJim |
In the blue corner, Rishi Sunak — the former chancellor, warning of an economic national emergency, as though he’s forgotten that just weeks ago, he was running the economy.
And in the bluer corner, Liz Truss — recent graduate of the esteemed school of fantasy economics and leading Thatcher tribute act, promising billions in unfunded tax cuts.
Says it all really |  | | |
| Rishi v Liz on 19:52 - Jul 26 with 874 views | onehunglow |
| Rishi v Liz on 19:25 - Jul 26 by CountyJim |
In the blue corner, Rishi Sunak — the former chancellor, warning of an economic national emergency, as though he’s forgotten that just weeks ago, he was running the economy.
And in the bluer corner, Liz Truss — recent graduate of the esteemed school of fantasy economics and leading Thatcher tribute act, promising billions in unfunded tax cuts.
Says it all really |
How’s campaigning going Jim.
You ve not posting any Police stuff of late
You are slipping ,butt. | |
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| Rishi v Liz on 19:53 - Jul 26 with 871 views | Sirjohnalot |
It’s easy to forget these politicians are human. Look of concern on Truss face was clearly genuine | | | |
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| Rishi v Liz on 20:44 - Jul 26 with 846 views | Catullus |
| Rishi v Liz on 19:53 - Jul 26 by Sirjohnalot |
It’s easy to forget these politicians are human. Look of concern on Truss face was clearly genuine |
That is the first look of emotion I remember seeing on her. otherwise she comes across as hard, cold and calculating. Probably good qualities for a PM. Certainly better qualities for it than being desperate to be liked! | |
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| Rishi v Liz on 20:51 - Jul 26 with 838 views | onehunglow |
| Rishi v Liz on 20:44 - Jul 26 by Catullus |
That is the first look of emotion I remember seeing on her. otherwise she comes across as hard, cold and calculating. Probably good qualities for a PM. Certainly better qualities for it than being desperate to be liked! |
Last person we want Jon is a soft ,sentimental ,wan person.
Ideally a bastardbut an efficient and fair one.
Boris wanted to be liked ,which is exactly what we doing want
That posh nicaughty but loveable veneer masks a total sheet | |
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| Rishi v Liz on 20:56 - Jul 26 with 831 views | 73__73 |
| Rishi v Liz on 19:22 - Jul 26 by Sirjohnalot |
Fair enough question but being white and knowing older white Tory voters, and seeing them on programmes like QT and reading various stats and voting intentions. Older white, Tories are more inclined to vote for Brexit, and prefer candidates who are white.
There have been surveys done to ask people how they vote and their views on topics. The Tory party is dominated by older, white, men who live in the SE of England. That is a fact. Whilst the Tory MPs are ethnically diverse, I would suggest the party is not.
You do make a very fair point re the black or gay vote, but I again, I would suggest people from ethnic minorities or groups who have been marginalised would be more likely (of course not as a rule) to be attracted to parties like labour.
One of the reasons being s28 was introduced by the Tory Party and only repealed in 2003, I think. Certainly out of my black and gay friends and people I know in work, I don't think any of them are Tory supporters. |
I’d rather listen to a 70 year old who has lived his/her life than some 18 year old who’s knows nothing and is still on the bottle.
As for Brexit millions of labour voters voted to leave, so don’t know where you get your facts from.
Also talking of over representation, how many gay mps are there. | |
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| Rishi v Liz on 21:00 - Jul 26 with 827 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Rishi v Liz on 20:51 - Jul 26 by onehunglow |
Last person we want Jon is a soft ,sentimental ,wan person.
Ideally a bastardbut an efficient and fair one.
Boris wanted to be liked ,which is exactly what we doing want
That posh nicaughty but loveable veneer masks a total sheet |
Don’t need someone who is horrible.
We need someone who is decent, honourable, trustworthy and compassionate. Johnson was a charlatan. Never understood on programmes like the apprentice when they say “I’ll destroy everyone to get my way’ Why would you want to get into business with someone like that ? I’d never harm someone to get what I’d wanted.
A PM needs to be trusted by countries we want to trade with. I wouldn’t trust a bstrd. | | | |
| Rishi v Liz on 21:02 - Jul 26 with 825 views | onehunglow |
| Rishi v Liz on 21:00 - Jul 26 by Sirjohnalot |
Don’t need someone who is horrible.
We need someone who is decent, honourable, trustworthy and compassionate. Johnson was a charlatan. Never understood on programmes like the apprentice when they say “I’ll destroy everyone to get my way’ Why would you want to get into business with someone like that ? I’d never harm someone to get what I’d wanted.
A PM needs to be trusted by countries we want to trade with. I wouldn’t trust a bstrd. |
Jon. It helps.
Someone who s a good leader and doesn’t care who he upsets .
Boris was a liar and wanted to be popular .
Evidence of what I mean. | |
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| Rishi v Liz on 21:19 - Jul 26 with 820 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Rishi v Liz on 21:02 - Jul 26 by onehunglow |
Jon. It helps.
Someone who s a good leader and doesn’t care who he upsets .
Boris was a liar and wanted to be popular .
Evidence of what I mean. |
Different visions of leadership I guess. Massive character flaw if you don’t care who you upset. It’s being respectful. Again other countries would have to trade with us. Following years of our country’s reputation falling down the plug hole we need to rebuild it | | | |
| Rishi v Liz on 21:22 - Jul 26 with 818 views | onehunglow |
| Rishi v Liz on 21:19 - Jul 26 by Sirjohnalot |
Different visions of leadership I guess. Massive character flaw if you don’t care who you upset. It’s being respectful. Again other countries would have to trade with us. Following years of our country’s reputation falling down the plug hole we need to rebuild it |
Different perspectives Jon.
I’m quite happy to upset the right people or is it the wrong people.
When in Plod,I upset on a daily basis . | |
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| Rishi v Liz on 21:27 - Jul 26 with 802 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Rishi v Liz on 21:22 - Jul 26 by onehunglow |
Different perspectives Jon.
I’m quite happy to upset the right people or is it the wrong people.
When in Plod,I upset on a daily basis . |
Oh yes, in that context, completely agree. I’m
Talking about a PM dealing with other world leaders re trade etc | | | |
| Rishi v Liz on 21:30 - Jul 26 with 799 views | onehunglow |
| Rishi v Liz on 21:27 - Jul 26 by Sirjohnalot |
Oh yes, in that context, completely agree. I’m
Talking about a PM dealing with other world leaders re trade etc |
Fair comment ,counsel | |
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| Rishi v Liz on 21:38 - Jul 26 with 789 views | Flashberryjack |
| Rishi v Liz on 19:22 - Jul 26 by Sirjohnalot |
Fair enough question but being white and knowing older white Tory voters, and seeing them on programmes like QT and reading various stats and voting intentions. Older white, Tories are more inclined to vote for Brexit, and prefer candidates who are white.
There have been surveys done to ask people how they vote and their views on topics. The Tory party is dominated by older, white, men who live in the SE of England. That is a fact. Whilst the Tory MPs are ethnically diverse, I would suggest the party is not.
You do make a very fair point re the black or gay vote, but I again, I would suggest people from ethnic minorities or groups who have been marginalised would be more likely (of course not as a rule) to be attracted to parties like labour.
One of the reasons being s28 was introduced by the Tory Party and only repealed in 2003, I think. Certainly out of my black and gay friends and people I know in work, I don't think any of them are Tory supporters. |
Colour and gender stereotyping, nice one. |  |
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| Rishi v Liz on 21:50 - Jul 26 with 761 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Rishi v Liz on 21:38 - Jul 26 by Flashberryjack |
Colour and gender stereotyping, nice one. |
Which is why I was careful in the way I phrased my assumptions. | | | |
| Rishi v Liz on 21:56 - Jul 26 with 744 views | Flashberryjack |
| Rishi v Liz on 21:50 - Jul 26 by Sirjohnalot |
Which is why I was careful in the way I phrased my assumptions. |
Yeah | |
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| Rishi v Liz on 22:09 - Jul 26 with 722 views | 73__73 |
| Rishi v Liz on 21:50 - Jul 26 by Sirjohnalot |
Which is why I was careful in the way I phrased my assumptions. |
You weren’t careful at all. You were just spewing anti white racist nonsense. | |
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| Rishi v Liz on 22:14 - Jul 26 with 712 views | Flashberryjack |
| Rishi v Liz on 22:09 - Jul 26 by 73__73 |
You weren’t careful at all. You were just spewing anti white racist nonsense. |
Yeah | |
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| Rishi v Liz on 07:14 - Jul 27 with 626 views | waynekerr55 |
| Rishi v Liz on 22:09 - Jul 26 by 73__73 |
You weren’t careful at all. You were just spewing anti white racist nonsense. |
How is that anti-white racist nonsense? He's just made assumptions based on lived experience. |  |
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| Rishi v Liz on 07:32 - Jul 27 with 621 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Rishi v Liz on 22:09 - Jul 26 by 73__73 |
You weren’t careful at all. You were just spewing anti white racist nonsense. |
That’s your take, you’re entitled to it, not sure how I can be racist towards white people but fully appreciate your point of view | | | |
| Rishi v Liz on 09:03 - Jul 27 with 602 views | CountyJim |
| Rishi v Liz on 19:52 - Jul 26 by onehunglow |
How’s campaigning going Jim.
You ve not posting any Police stuff of late
You are slipping ,butt. |
You can't stick to topic can you
I've never said I hate the police just bent ones now I'm starting to think that's not sinking in
Alright butt easy enough for you | | | |
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