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Pato and a new wing back 23:22 - Aug 16 with 4912 viewsmagicdaps10

Looks like Pato was a silly boy on the bench tonight and I would be rightfully unhappy also for what he done.....we need to be streetwise and then he does what he does.

Upping the need for a new wing back as Joel L looks to be out for a while. How that isn't given as a free kick on Joel L is beyond understanding.

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Pato and a new wing back on 23:30 - Aug 16 with 2995 viewsCatullus

What did he do?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Pato and a new wing back on 23:46 - Aug 16 with 2936 viewsDr_Parnassus

And to think you were throwing your toys out of the pram when people were telling you, quite factually, that he doesn’t get on with Martin.

Same with Piroe, look at him now - not interested. He wanted out and away from the manager at the end of the season.

These are facts.

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Pato and a new wing back on 00:06 - Aug 17 with 2874 viewsjasper_T

Pato and a new wing back on 23:30 - Aug 16 by Catullus

What did he do?


Martin is upset that Paterson didn't hide the ball and waste time.
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Pato and a new wing back on 00:10 - Aug 17 with 2859 viewsKeithHaynes

Pato and a new wing back on 00:06 - Aug 17 by jasper_T

Martin is upset that Paterson didn't hide the ball and waste time.


Like children.

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Pato and a new wing back on 00:22 - Aug 17 with 2827 viewsReslovenSwan1

Pato and a new wing back on 00:10 - Aug 17 by KeithHaynes

Like children.


Fans do not fully appreciate the importance of these matters. The intervention of Charlie Morgan in 2013 was DECISIVE. No Morgan no no league cup win.

Chelsea were on the charge and Swansea holding out. Hazard lost his rag and Chelsea were out needing 2 goals with 10 mins to spare. These things count.

I back Martin after last week. He is honest. He was let down last week by weak players who did not do their job properly. Benda and the 19 year old who wimped out of wall duties.

Swansea can only succeed by building on upsets like tonight with young developing players. It takes time. Champagne Charles thinking about themselves can go.

Sensational goal by Whittaker by the way. He looked a pure thoroughbred.

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Pato and a new wing back on 02:56 - Aug 17 with 2750 viewsDr_Parnassus

Pato and a new wing back on 00:22 - Aug 17 by ReslovenSwan1

Fans do not fully appreciate the importance of these matters. The intervention of Charlie Morgan in 2013 was DECISIVE. No Morgan no no league cup win.

Chelsea were on the charge and Swansea holding out. Hazard lost his rag and Chelsea were out needing 2 goals with 10 mins to spare. These things count.

I back Martin after last week. He is honest. He was let down last week by weak players who did not do their job properly. Benda and the 19 year old who wimped out of wall duties.

Swansea can only succeed by building on upsets like tonight with young developing players. It takes time. Champagne Charles thinking about themselves can go.

Sensational goal by Whittaker by the way. He looked a pure thoroughbred.


“No Charlie Morgan no league cup win.”

Your claims of fact are getting wilder and wilder by the week, as you try and justify your ever moving and contradicting “opinions”.

So without Charlie Morgan’s nonsense in the 80th minute of the 2nd leg, we don’t win the tie?

Despite beating them 2-0 in the previous leg and being 0-0 up to that point, with 10 mins to go, you mean?

Pass the pipe.

I don’t know if you are trying to be deceptive or you really are very poor at reading situations. Could be either.
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Pato and a new wing back on 09:16 - Aug 17 with 2530 viewsmagicdaps10

Calm down guys-DrP and AC!

Both up at silly trs posting and editing so many minutes after posting and within a minute of each other!

Was Pato right what he did last night?
Shouldn't have signed anew contract if he wasn't happy.
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Dai isn't from PT, can tell you he had a top job at United in the summer mind.....not talking a friend of a friend with Dai mind 😏

All in all though, honoured that you are posting at silly o'clock and even needing to synchronise your editing within minutes of each other.......Dont up the rent guys, I enjoy living in that big space in your heads 👍

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Pato and a new wing back on 09:21 - Aug 17 with 2519 viewsonehunglow

Pato and a new wing back on 09:16 - Aug 17 by magicdaps10

Calm down guys-DrP and AC!

Both up at silly trs posting and editing so many minutes after posting and within a minute of each other!

Was Pato right what he did last night?
Shouldn't have signed anew contract if he wasn't happy.
RWB 🤫

Dai isn't from PT, can tell you he had a top job at United in the summer mind.....not talking a friend of a friend with Dai mind 😏

All in all though, honoured that you are posting at silly o'clock and even needing to synchronise your editing within minutes of each other.......Dont up the rent guys, I enjoy living in that big space in your heads 👍


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Pato and a new wing back on 09:24 - Aug 17 with 2516 viewsBadlands

Pato and a new wing back on 09:16 - Aug 17 by magicdaps10

Calm down guys-DrP and AC!

Both up at silly trs posting and editing so many minutes after posting and within a minute of each other!

Was Pato right what he did last night?
Shouldn't have signed anew contract if he wasn't happy.
RWB 🤫

Dai isn't from PT, can tell you he had a top job at United in the summer mind.....not talking a friend of a friend with Dai mind 😏

All in all though, honoured that you are posting at silly o'clock and even needing to synchronise your editing within minutes of each other.......Dont up the rent guys, I enjoy living in that big space in your heads 👍


TBF he was an idiot for assisting the return of the ball. Under 11s are taught not to interfere if the ball goes out and you are winning.
Paterson and martin not getting on? Martin went out of his way … a long way out of his way to placate Paterson last January and excuse his hissy fit. Extending his contract was a mistake IMO.

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Pato and a new wing back on 09:26 - Aug 17 with 2505 viewsonehunglow

Pato and a new wing back on 09:24 - Aug 17 by Badlands

TBF he was an idiot for assisting the return of the ball. Under 11s are taught not to interfere if the ball goes out and you are winning.
Paterson and martin not getting on? Martin went out of his way … a long way out of his way to placate Paterson last January and excuse his hissy fit. Extending his contract was a mistake IMO.


Pato would have been kicked into the Tawe had he been on the field.

An utter nonentity who had a few good games.

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Pato and a new wing back on 09:58 - Aug 17 with 2465 viewsDr_Parnassus

Pato and a new wing back on 09:16 - Aug 17 by magicdaps10

Calm down guys-DrP and AC!

Both up at silly trs posting and editing so many minutes after posting and within a minute of each other!

Was Pato right what he did last night?
Shouldn't have signed anew contract if he wasn't happy.
RWB 🤫

Dai isn't from PT, can tell you he had a top job at United in the summer mind.....not talking a friend of a friend with Dai mind 😏

All in all though, honoured that you are posting at silly o'clock and even needing to synchronise your editing within minutes of each other.......Dont up the rent guys, I enjoy living in that big space in your heads 👍


Don’t you post within minutes of STID? What’s your point champ?

Not being happy with a manager doesn’t mean he’s unhappy to play for Swansea. Russell Martin won’t be manager in all likelihood within the next 2 years, Pato could play for another 4-5.

When you say “silly o’clock” - I believe it was about 9am.

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Pato and a new wing back on 10:05 - Aug 17 with 2457 viewsBadlands

Pato and a new wing back on 09:58 - Aug 17 by Dr_Parnassus

Don’t you post within minutes of STID? What’s your point champ?

Not being happy with a manager doesn’t mean he’s unhappy to play for Swansea. Russell Martin won’t be manager in all likelihood within the next 2 years, Pato could play for another 4-5.

When you say “silly o’clock” - I believe it was about 9am.


If he's playing in four to five years I hope it isn’t for us.
I'll correct that, If he's playing in the four to five weeks I hope it's not for us.
First half of last season 8 goals
Hissy fit
Second half. (minus his refusal to play era) 1 goal.

As for wing back.
Martin wants to go into the transfer market … how about using Ogbeta?
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Pato and a new wing back on 10:10 - Aug 17 with 2436 viewsDr_Parnassus

Pato and a new wing back on 10:05 - Aug 17 by Badlands

If he's playing in four to five years I hope it isn’t for us.
I'll correct that, If he's playing in the four to five weeks I hope it's not for us.
First half of last season 8 goals
Hissy fit
Second half. (minus his refusal to play era) 1 goal.

As for wing back.
Martin wants to go into the transfer market … how about using Ogbeta?
[Post edited 17 Aug 2022 10:06]


Indeed, as I said, he can’t stand Martin and his ways. Expect more hissy fits to come.

Piroe is the same but less outspoken.

Obafemi is another than can’t stand him. Also wouldn’t be too shocked to see something there this season too.

The list is growing, put it that way.

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Pato and a new wing back on 10:12 - Aug 17 with 2436 viewsonehunglow

Pato and a new wing back on 10:05 - Aug 17 by Badlands

If he's playing in four to five years I hope it isn’t for us.
I'll correct that, If he's playing in the four to five weeks I hope it's not for us.
First half of last season 8 goals
Hissy fit
Second half. (minus his refusal to play era) 1 goal.

As for wing back.
Martin wants to go into the transfer market … how about using Ogbeta?
[Post edited 17 Aug 2022 10:06]


Doesn't fit the model,I believe the term is.

I see Martin as a destroyer of careers. That bad.

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Pato and a new wing back on 10:36 - Aug 17 with 2402 viewswhiterock

Pato and a new wing back on 10:10 - Aug 17 by Dr_Parnassus

Indeed, as I said, he can’t stand Martin and his ways. Expect more hissy fits to come.

Piroe is the same but less outspoken.

Obafemi is another than can’t stand him. Also wouldn’t be too shocked to see something there this season too.

The list is growing, put it that way.


All your opinion, certainly not FACT as previously stated
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Pato and a new wing back on 10:39 - Aug 17 with 2390 viewsguthrieintherain

Pato and a new wing back on 23:46 - Aug 16 by Dr_Parnassus

And to think you were throwing your toys out of the pram when people were telling you, quite factually, that he doesn’t get on with Martin.

Same with Piroe, look at him now - not interested. He wanted out and away from the manager at the end of the season.

These are facts.


I think the reason Piroe is not interested is more to do with PL interest and a huge increase in his salary.

Can't blame Russ for that one.
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Pato and a new wing back on 10:56 - Aug 17 with 2353 viewsjojaca

Pato and a new wing back on 10:39 - Aug 17 by guthrieintherain

I think the reason Piroe is not interested is more to do with PL interest and a huge increase in his salary.

Can't blame Russ for that one.
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Judging by his first four games this season, he is doing a lot of damage for his next career move.. His value has probably dropped £5 million.

Even when you know, you never know?

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Pato and a new wing back on 11:06 - Aug 17 with 2313 viewsguthrieintherain

Pato and a new wing back on 10:56 - Aug 17 by jojaca

Judging by his first four games this season, he is doing a lot of damage for his next career move.. His value has probably dropped £5 million.


Clubs are not daft though they will be aware of his ability from last season.

But yes be nice if he could put a tiny bit of effort in he earns more than most of us can dream of.

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Pato and a new wing back on 11:15 - Aug 17 with 2290 viewsDr_Parnassus

Pato and a new wing back on 10:36 - Aug 17 by whiterock

All your opinion, certainly not FACT as previously stated


Nope, none of it is opinion.

This is all fact.

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Pato and a new wing back on 11:17 - Aug 17 with 2284 viewsDr_Parnassus

Pato and a new wing back on 10:39 - Aug 17 by guthrieintherain

I think the reason Piroe is not interested is more to do with PL interest and a huge increase in his salary.

Can't blame Russ for that one.
[Post edited 17 Aug 2022 10:39]


Well yeah, he wants out and that is due to Martin.

But due to his form last year the Premier League is very much where he wants to be now. His handling of Piroe at the start hasn’t been forgotten by him or his dad who is a massive influence on him.

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Pato and a new wing back on 11:25 - Aug 17 with 2274 viewswhiterock

Pato and a new wing back on 11:17 - Aug 17 by Dr_Parnassus

Well yeah, he wants out and that is due to Martin.

But due to his form last year the Premier League is very much where he wants to be now. His handling of Piroe at the start hasn’t been forgotten by him or his dad who is a massive influence on him.


All players want a bit of the PL, won't be the first or last, that doesn't mean there's a rift and surely, even if there was, Piroe would be better getting his head down and making a move happen.
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Pato and a new wing back on 11:37 - Aug 17 with 2245 viewsDr_Parnassus

Pato and a new wing back on 11:25 - Aug 17 by whiterock

All players want a bit of the PL, won't be the first or last, that doesn't mean there's a rift and surely, even if there was, Piroe would be better getting his head down and making a move happen.


I didn’t say him wanting to go to the Premier League was anything to do with it. You made that connection, not me.

I said, quite factually, Piroe and his family don’t like Martin - it’s as simple as that and it was an issue from the get go. Piroe wants to leave, of course the Prem is the preferred destination.

But the two things are separate.

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Pato and a new wing back on 11:37 - Aug 17 with 2246 viewsswan65split

Pato and a new wing back on 11:17 - Aug 17 by Dr_Parnassus

Well yeah, he wants out and that is due to Martin.

But due to his form last year the Premier League is very much where he wants to be now. His handling of Piroe at the start hasn’t been forgotten by him or his dad who is a massive influence on him.


If he is an influence on him, then it may end up being a bad influence.
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Pato and a new wing back on 11:39 - Aug 17 with 2241 viewsDr_Parnassus

Pato and a new wing back on 11:37 - Aug 17 by swan65split

If he is an influence on him, then it may end up being a bad influence.


It’s served him well so far. He’s now a £10m striker with Premier League interest.

The Piroes are proud people, they don’t take disrespect lightly.

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Pato and a new wing back on 11:57 - Aug 17 with 2192 viewsnantywatcher

Pato and a new wing back on 23:46 - Aug 16 by Dr_Parnassus

And to think you were throwing your toys out of the pram when people were telling you, quite factually, that he doesn’t get on with Martin.

Same with Piroe, look at him now - not interested. He wanted out and away from the manager at the end of the season.

These are facts.


"Same with Piroe, look at him now - not interested. He wanted out and away from the manager at the end of the season."
Nonsense! He could not possibly have tried any harder last night. He covered every blade of grass on the pitch searching and finding space to receive the ball. There' a bit of anxiety in his play that all strikers get when they are going through a barren spell.
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