| New PM 07:21 - Sep 4 with 12700 views | Sirjohnalot |
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Good grief, my prediction about there being a GE within 18 months and getting rid of Truss for Johnson to return may be right.
Committees standards should be very interesting.
Be fascinated to see what Lord Pannick QC’s brief asked him to advise on and how they can justify a £150,000 brief fee |  | | |  |
| New PM on 14:32 - Sep 6 with 1520 views | Kilkennyjack |
| New PM on 13:33 - Sep 6 by onehunglow |
It is staggering matey.
Good knows it wasn’t perfect before but for May to politicise the Policing system was her worst legacy and she has plenty of others .
The most contemptible cow had her comeupance . We are suffering for her time as Home Sec,to this day.
To say to Police officers at annual conference …You re crying Wolf,Police always do.,just about sums her up |
Should be devolved like Scotland.
Here in Wales he value our Heddlu. |  |
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| New PM on 15:12 - Sep 6 with 1490 views | Flashberryjack |
| New PM on 11:12 - Sep 6 by Whiterockin |
How long for the vote of no confidence and another leadership election with boris back in, 6 months? |
Nonsense, not unless the Tory party want to be the opposition party. |  |
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| New PM on 16:41 - Sep 6 with 1431 views | onehunglow |
| New PM on 14:32 - Sep 6 by Kilkennyjack |
Should be devolved like Scotland.
Here in Wales he value our Heddlu. |
North Wales police are heavily reliant on outside support from Cheshire and Merseyside . Cross border assistance very effective |  |
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| New PM on 17:21 - Sep 6 with 1416 views | Dr_Winston |
Can't imagine why anyone would want to be Prime Minister now. It's like volunteering to be the last person to use the Portaloo after "Veggie Friday" at Glastonbury. |  |
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| New PM on 17:39 - Sep 6 with 1395 views | Flashberryjack |
| New PM on 17:21 - Sep 6 by Dr_Winston |
Can't imagine why anyone would want to be Prime Minister now. It's like volunteering to be the last person to use the Portaloo after "Veggie Friday" at Glastonbury. |
Exactly, and she's going to have sh*t of every kind thrown at her, no matter what she does.
And it's already started by some on this thread, minutes after her becoming PM. | |
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| New PM on 18:05 - Sep 6 with 1368 views | Sirjohnalot |
| New PM on 17:39 - Sep 6 by Flashberryjack |
Exactly, and she's going to have sh*t of every kind thrown at her, no matter what she does.
And it's already started by some on this thread, minutes after her becoming PM. |
Truss has been in cabinet since around 2012, she is not a new comer. Her performance whenever under scrutiny has been woeful, she dodged any real interviews during the leadership campaign (can you imagine, Cameron, Major or Thatcher doing that ?)
She keeps changing her position to suit the majority, Lib Dim, anti Brexit, pro Brexit, hard Brexit. She told Rory Stewart that she could not imagine anything worse than being Foreign Secretary before of course, becoming FS.
Many people are basing their opinions on her history not an unknown person. | | | |
| New PM on 18:12 - Sep 6 with 1351 views | Flashberryjack |
| New PM on 18:05 - Sep 6 by Sirjohnalot |
Truss has been in cabinet since around 2012, she is not a new comer. Her performance whenever under scrutiny has been woeful, she dodged any real interviews during the leadership campaign (can you imagine, Cameron, Major or Thatcher doing that ?)
She keeps changing her position to suit the majority, Lib Dim, anti Brexit, pro Brexit, hard Brexit. She told Rory Stewart that she could not imagine anything worse than being Foreign Secretary before of course, becoming FS.
Many people are basing their opinions on her history not an unknown person. |
Come on Sir, you'd say similar about any Conservative becoming PM.
She's PM, whether you like her or not, give her a chance for goodness sake. | |
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| New PM on 18:26 - Sep 6 with 1339 views | BryanSwan |
| New PM on 18:05 - Sep 6 by Sirjohnalot |
Truss has been in cabinet since around 2012, she is not a new comer. Her performance whenever under scrutiny has been woeful, she dodged any real interviews during the leadership campaign (can you imagine, Cameron, Major or Thatcher doing that ?)
She keeps changing her position to suit the majority, Lib Dim, anti Brexit, pro Brexit, hard Brexit. She told Rory Stewart that she could not imagine anything worse than being Foreign Secretary before of course, becoming FS.
Many people are basing their opinions on her history not an unknown person. |
It's not even history, she is coming up with ludicrous proposals as we speak.
Lets freeze energy bills and have the consumer pay it back over 10 years. Not for one second considering that maybe prices don't go down. Or maybe it has been considered and she just doesn't care.
She has a track record of being a bit of a thick liability and has proven it numerous times, but what the heck lets give good ol Trussy a chance. | |
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| New PM on 18:41 - Sep 6 with 1319 views | Sirjohnalot |
| New PM on 18:12 - Sep 6 by Flashberryjack |
Come on Sir, you'd say similar about any Conservative becoming PM.
She's PM, whether you like her or not, give her a chance for goodness sake. |
I wouldn't I'm not particularly anti tory or pro labour. I'm stuck in the middle. Tom Tugenhat would have been a good choice, I'm a big fan of Johnny Mercer, Tobias Ellwood. David Gauke. Rory Stewart is a man of great dignity who saw what Johnson was and called him out. My Tory MP, William Wragg is excellent and a very decent man. May and Cameron were flawed but inherently honourable and did not, especially with Cameron worry that the UK was a laughing stock around the world. You look at recent history and do think surely we have better than Corbyn Johnson and Truss. I cannot understand why Sunak was not elected, he would have been by far and away the better choice but a country mile and much more of a threat to Labour.
Personally, I think they should have gone for someone completely separate from Johnson's cabinet. If she has any sense, she won't have JRM or the like anywhere near her
I agree that Truss probably has a poisoned chalice and I don't believe for a second Labour actually want a General Election at the moment.
Add Ben Wallace to that list, he'd have been very good
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| New PM on 20:13 - Sep 6 with 1249 views | Dr_Winston |
| New PM on 18:41 - Sep 6 by Sirjohnalot |
I wouldn't I'm not particularly anti tory or pro labour. I'm stuck in the middle. Tom Tugenhat would have been a good choice, I'm a big fan of Johnny Mercer, Tobias Ellwood. David Gauke. Rory Stewart is a man of great dignity who saw what Johnson was and called him out. My Tory MP, William Wragg is excellent and a very decent man. May and Cameron were flawed but inherently honourable and did not, especially with Cameron worry that the UK was a laughing stock around the world. You look at recent history and do think surely we have better than Corbyn Johnson and Truss. I cannot understand why Sunak was not elected, he would have been by far and away the better choice but a country mile and much more of a threat to Labour.
Personally, I think they should have gone for someone completely separate from Johnson's cabinet. If she has any sense, she won't have JRM or the like anywhere near her
I agree that Truss probably has a poisoned chalice and I don't believe for a second Labour actually want a General Election at the moment.
Add Ben Wallace to that list, he'd have been very good
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Sunak wasn't elected because the party members didn't want him. Probably a bit too honest over the whole "let's not cut taxes whilst the govt is giving money out hand over fist". Although having said that, the members weren't too enthusiastic about Truss either.
I suspect that if it had been a straight membership vote, even if it took two or three rounds to get down to a final two, Badenoch probably would have won. Either her or Mordaunt. | |
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| New PM on 21:27 - Sep 6 with 1176 views | union_jack |
| New PM on 18:41 - Sep 6 by Sirjohnalot |
I wouldn't I'm not particularly anti tory or pro labour. I'm stuck in the middle. Tom Tugenhat would have been a good choice, I'm a big fan of Johnny Mercer, Tobias Ellwood. David Gauke. Rory Stewart is a man of great dignity who saw what Johnson was and called him out. My Tory MP, William Wragg is excellent and a very decent man. May and Cameron were flawed but inherently honourable and did not, especially with Cameron worry that the UK was a laughing stock around the world. You look at recent history and do think surely we have better than Corbyn Johnson and Truss. I cannot understand why Sunak was not elected, he would have been by far and away the better choice but a country mile and much more of a threat to Labour.
Personally, I think they should have gone for someone completely separate from Johnson's cabinet. If she has any sense, she won't have JRM or the like anywhere near her
I agree that Truss probably has a poisoned chalice and I don't believe for a second Labour actually want a General Election at the moment.
Add Ben Wallace to that list, he'd have been very good
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“ If she has any sense, she won't have JRM or the like anywhere near her”
Oh dear! |  |
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| New PM on 21:39 - Sep 6 with 1164 views | Sirjohnalot |
| New PM on 21:27 - Sep 6 by union_jack |
“ If she has any sense, she won't have JRM or the like anywhere near her”
Oh dear! |
You think JRM will help them win the election? Do you think he’s relatable, especially in places like the Red Wall or do you think he’s part of the stereotypical elitist view of the Tory party ? Do you think people like him understand people struggling to get by day by day ? | | | |
| New PM on 21:54 - Sep 6 with 1133 views | union_jack |
| New PM on 21:39 - Sep 6 by Sirjohnalot |
You think JRM will help them win the election? Do you think he’s relatable, especially in places like the Red Wall or do you think he’s part of the stereotypical elitist view of the Tory party ? Do you think people like him understand people struggling to get by day by day ? |
God no! I was just pointing out he’s been appointed to the cabinet this evening hence why I quoted you.
I think he’s as far away from reality as anyone can be. | |
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| New PM on 22:08 - Sep 6 with 1103 views | Sirjohnalot |
| New PM on 21:54 - Sep 6 by union_jack |
God no! I was just pointing out he’s been appointed to the cabinet this evening hence why I quoted you.
I think he’s as far away from reality as anyone can be. |
Ah. Sorry, completely misunderstood your reply. | | | |
| New PM on 22:14 - Sep 6 with 1093 views | union_jack |
| New PM on 22:08 - Sep 6 by Sirjohnalot |
Ah. Sorry, completely misunderstood your reply. |
The problem of the written word! I didn’t really go all out to make it clear though.
I didn’t think she’d have JRM in the cabinet either but there you go. | |
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| New PM on 22:31 - Sep 6 with 1076 views | Sirjohnalot |
| New PM on 22:14 - Sep 6 by union_jack |
The problem of the written word! I didn’t really go all out to make it clear though.
I didn’t think she’d have JRM in the cabinet either but there you go. |
Felicity Mercer, Johnny’s wife is ripping into Truss on twitter after she sacked him. | | | |
| New PM on 23:38 - Sep 6 with 1047 views | Kilkennyjack |
| New PM on 16:41 - Sep 6 by onehunglow |
North Wales police are heavily reliant on outside support from Cheshire and Merseyside . Cross border assistance very effective |
That need not end. | |
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| New PM on 23:40 - Sep 6 with 1046 views | Kilkennyjack |
| New PM on 17:39 - Sep 6 by Flashberryjack |
Exactly, and she's going to have sh*t of every kind thrown at her, no matter what she does.
And it's already started by some on this thread, minutes after her becoming PM. |
Its because we know her see …. | |
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| New PM on 23:42 - Sep 6 with 1044 views | Kilkennyjack |
| New PM on 21:27 - Sep 6 by union_jack |
“ If she has any sense, she won't have JRM or the like anywhere near her”
Oh dear! |
Well thats a true statement.
He is a nasty back stabbing victorian pencil. | |
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| New PM on 23:46 - Sep 6 with 1043 views | Kilkennyjack |
| New PM on 20:13 - Sep 6 by Dr_Winston |
Sunak wasn't elected because the party members didn't want him. Probably a bit too honest over the whole "let's not cut taxes whilst the govt is giving money out hand over fist". Although having said that, the members weren't too enthusiastic about Truss either.
I suspect that if it had been a straight membership vote, even if it took two or three rounds to get down to a final two, Badenoch probably would have won. Either her or Mordaunt. |
All lot of people felt The Tory members would always favour Truss over Sunak.
Logically Sunak should have walked it.
Truss being an idiot. | |
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| New PM on 08:10 - Sep 7 with 971 views | BryanSwan |
| New PM on 23:46 - Sep 6 by Kilkennyjack |
All lot of people felt The Tory members would always favour Truss over Sunak.
Logically Sunak should have walked it.
Truss being an idiot. |
Sunak was by far the better candidate, had sensible proposals and is clearly an intelligent bloke.
But Tories care more about their own wallets than anything else. And thats exactly what Truss promised, no more wealth redistribution and erosion of workers rights. | |
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| New PM on 08:37 - Sep 7 with 954 views | Sirjohnalot |
| New PM on 08:10 - Sep 7 by BryanSwan |
Sunak was by far the better candidate, had sensible proposals and is clearly an intelligent bloke.
But Tories care more about their own wallets than anything else. And thats exactly what Truss promised, no more wealth redistribution and erosion of workers rights. |
Labour will be absolutely delighted, with Sunak, PMQs would’ve been very interesting and not an easy ride for Starmer. There’s a new podcast called Newsagents with Emily Maitlis, they interview her old Uni professor, he said she often came out with wacky ideas and would stick to them. | | | |
| New PM on 09:24 - Sep 7 with 944 views | onehunglow |
| New PM on 21:39 - Sep 6 by Sirjohnalot |
You think JRM will help them win the election? Do you think he’s relatable, especially in places like the Red Wall or do you think he’s part of the stereotypical elitist view of the Tory party ? Do you think people like him understand people struggling to get by day by day ? |
It is either extremely brave or political suicide.
He is exactly what we do not want to see in Government as he is perceived ,rightly or wrongly,to be on the 19th Century where young girls went into service whilst their parents worked 14 hours a day the the factory. A man who looks and sounds ridiculous to anyone not of his social circle.
I would love to buy him a drink though and have a chat. | |
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| New PM on 09:44 - Sep 7 with 937 views | union_jack |
| New PM on 08:10 - Sep 7 by BryanSwan |
Sunak was by far the better candidate, had sensible proposals and is clearly an intelligent bloke.
But Tories care more about their own wallets than anything else. And thats exactly what Truss promised, no more wealth redistribution and erosion of workers rights. |
I think a lot of people are ignoring the elephant in the room when it comes to Sunak not winning the race.
I won’t elaborate. | |
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| New PM on 10:12 - Sep 7 with 914 views | Dr_Winston |
| New PM on 09:44 - Sep 7 by union_jack |
I think a lot of people are ignoring the elephant in the room when it comes to Sunak not winning the race.
I won’t elaborate. |
A lot of people seem to be seeing an elephant that isn't there when the overwhelming majority of polls of party members suggested that a black woman was the preferred candidate. | |
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