| I have to show respect. 13:55 - Sep 13 with 3709 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
British football is getting increasing political and forcing fans to "show respect" for all sorts of things. The list is getting bigger and the commitment required is increasing.
- i lost £150 going to Birmingham "showing respect" MANDATORY
- I have to "show respect" to fallen soldiers every November 11 for about two week. MANDATORY
- I have to "show respect" the GSTK. If I did not would most likely be punched. MANDATORY
- I have to respect "taking the knee along with a black fist salute". I not know what it is about but I have to show respect apparently. It was originally related to the murder of a criminal junkie somewhere in the USA MANDATORY.
I was given abuse by my Welsh nationalist mate at the Millenium stadium "giving respect"
when Princess Margaret died. I had no respect for her at all.
This is football no place for respect. That is why I am £150 out of pocket.
I wear a poppy myself on occasions and donate but it is not mandatory outside football and sport. I could of course chose not to go.
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| I have to show respect. on 18:09 - Sep 13 with 1182 views | Boundy |
I think I understand now why the Op is so adverse about being called a sheep botherer , the perpetrators must have recognised him by the sound of his contiunor s bleating , talk about making yourself a target |  |
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| I have to show respect. on 18:40 - Sep 13 with 1125 views | 1462jack |
You missed out a dig at the trust , everything ok ? |  | | |
| I have to show respect. on 20:28 - Sep 13 with 1054 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| I have to show respect. on 18:09 - Sep 13 by Boundy |
I think I understand now why the Op is so adverse about being called a sheep botherer , the perpetrators must have recognised him by the sound of his contiunor s bleating , talk about making yourself a target |
99.9% of planet earth feel insulted about being called a sheep botherer. I have travelled nd n know this. Two leeds fans were killed in Istanbul for their mild banter in 1999. The Arabs in Qatar will not take any nonsense either. I am not your normal Welsh football fan. They dance to the tune of racist English pipers. | |
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| I have to show respect. on 20:34 - Sep 13 with 1044 views | Sirjohnalot |
| I have to show respect. on 20:28 - Sep 13 by ReslovenSwan1 |
99.9% of planet earth feel insulted about being called a sheep botherer. I have travelled nd n know this. Two leeds fans were killed in Istanbul for their mild banter in 1999. The Arabs in Qatar will not take any nonsense either. I am not your normal Welsh football fan. They dance to the tune of racist English pipers. |
‘Racist English Pipers’
Sound like a Far Right folk band |  | | |
| I have to show respect. on 20:35 - Sep 13 with 1034 views | Treforys_Jack |
| I have to show respect. on 20:28 - Sep 13 by ReslovenSwan1 |
99.9% of planet earth feel insulted about being called a sheep botherer. I have travelled nd n know this. Two leeds fans were killed in Istanbul for their mild banter in 1999. The Arabs in Qatar will not take any nonsense either. I am not your normal Welsh football fan. They dance to the tune of racist English pipers. |
Glad you managed to contain yourself res, impeccable minutes silence, didn't think it would happen, but fair play. |  | | |
| I have to show respect. on 20:43 - Sep 13 with 1010 views | KeithHaynes |
| I have to show respect. on 20:34 - Sep 13 by Sirjohnalot |
‘Racist English Pipers’
Sound like a Far Right folk band |
Crack pipes ? |  |
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| I have to show respect. on 20:57 - Sep 13 with 988 views | Sirjohnalot |
| I have to show respect. on 20:43 - Sep 13 by KeithHaynes |
Crack pipes ? |
Far Right Said Fred. | | | |
| I have to show respect. on 15:48 - Sep 14 with 898 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| I have to show respect. on 17:15 - Sep 13 by Scotia |
There was no need for you to lose £150 then, you missed the football that's all. You should have found something else to do in Birmingham, its a great city.
I doubt 100,000 people were more than slightly disappointed rather than upset. The games aren't cancelled they're just delayed for a bit.
I also very much doubt the Royal Family gave two hoots about the games happening or not they had more important things to worry about. There was no royal decree and this isn't the 1500's.
I would personally be annoyed if someone booed or disrespected anything to do with my family. Its nobody else's business though, I certainly wouldn't punch anyone but who booed the anthem, I would think they were a disrespectful moron though.
Would you boo GSTQ or GSTK if you were standing next to Mike Tindall?
This isn't about the Queen or England it's a matter of common decency. |
Mike Tindall is another having a great life on my tax payments. I did find other things to do I had no choice. I am sure he would smack me in them mouth if I spoke out of turn about his granny in law. He knows where is bread is buttered.
The booing at Wrexham and Liverpool were the direct result of FA mismanagement and treating the fans like second class citizens. Cricket authorities were more sympathetic to the stakeholders.
If I had freedom of speech and objected to the action carried out on behalf of the Queen I would have been beaten up. I had no choice but to show respect It was not a option.
They are not all cap doffers in north east Wales and Liverpool. Here is a statement from Wrexham.
"To have the club’s name in the media this morning for all the wrong reasons is not a scenario that should have occurred and we wish to apologise to all who were offended by the actions of the minority, while thanking the vast majority who did observe the one-minute silence.
"A number of the individuals who disturbed the one-minute silence were asked to leave the Racecourse Ground for their own safety." | |
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| I have to show respect. on 15:51 - Sep 14 with 891 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| I have to show respect. on 20:34 - Sep 13 by Sirjohnalot |
‘Racist English Pipers’
Sound like a Far Right folk band |
There was a southern USA racist barbershop quartet at one time. Probably long gone. | |
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| I have to show respect. on 16:02 - Sep 14 with 881 views | trampie |
| I have to show respect. on 15:48 - Sep 14 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Mike Tindall is another having a great life on my tax payments. I did find other things to do I had no choice. I am sure he would smack me in them mouth if I spoke out of turn about his granny in law. He knows where is bread is buttered.
The booing at Wrexham and Liverpool were the direct result of FA mismanagement and treating the fans like second class citizens. Cricket authorities were more sympathetic to the stakeholders.
If I had freedom of speech and objected to the action carried out on behalf of the Queen I would have been beaten up. I had no choice but to show respect It was not a option.
They are not all cap doffers in north east Wales and Liverpool. Here is a statement from Wrexham.
"To have the club’s name in the media this morning for all the wrong reasons is not a scenario that should have occurred and we wish to apologise to all who were offended by the actions of the minority, while thanking the vast majority who did observe the one-minute silence.
"A number of the individuals who disturbed the one-minute silence were asked to leave the Racecourse Ground for their own safety." |
Thinking out loud earlier today when posting on this type of topic, I may have missed it but all the times Liverpool booed GSTQ over many years I don't recall Liverpool apologising, yet other teams do apologise if their supporters are deemed to have done something wrong.
Some Liverpool fans booing a minutes silence this time in honour of the dead Queen and still no apology from Liverpool football club not that I have heard of anyway.
I keep saying I haven't heard of because I find it incredible they would not appolgise, so I keep thinking I must have missed it, previously booing the nation anthem in honour of the Queen was not one or two fans either it seemed like thousands of them booing at those different Wembley finals. |  |
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| I have to show respect. on 16:39 - Sep 14 with 865 views | Sirjohnalot |
| I have to show respect. on 15:51 - Sep 14 by ReslovenSwan1 |
There was a southern USA racist barbershop quartet at one time. Probably long gone. |
Sounds like a Monty Python sketch | | | |
| I have to show respect. on 17:09 - Sep 14 with 830 views | Scotia |
| I have to show respect. on 15:48 - Sep 14 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Mike Tindall is another having a great life on my tax payments. I did find other things to do I had no choice. I am sure he would smack me in them mouth if I spoke out of turn about his granny in law. He knows where is bread is buttered.
The booing at Wrexham and Liverpool were the direct result of FA mismanagement and treating the fans like second class citizens. Cricket authorities were more sympathetic to the stakeholders.
If I had freedom of speech and objected to the action carried out on behalf of the Queen I would have been beaten up. I had no choice but to show respect It was not a option.
They are not all cap doffers in north east Wales and Liverpool. Here is a statement from Wrexham.
"To have the club’s name in the media this morning for all the wrong reasons is not a scenario that should have occurred and we wish to apologise to all who were offended by the actions of the minority, while thanking the vast majority who did observe the one-minute silence.
"A number of the individuals who disturbed the one-minute silence were asked to leave the Racecourse Ground for their own safety." |
I would be amazed if Zara Phillips or Mike Tindall get or need any cash from the royal or taxpayers purse. They're pretty successful in their own right being world class sports people.
How do you know the booing at Wrexham and Liverpool were the result of a protest at FA mismangement? Cricket matches were also postponed on the Friday. They started on the Saturday and the postponed football matches will happen again. It was a symbolic gesture. It may have been a minor inconvenience but that's the rub of the green unfortunately.
You have freedom of speech and didn't need to demonstrate respect, you could have stayed outside until the minutes silence was over, you could have gone and stood in the concourse. Those who actively made a noise during the minutes silence demonstrated disrespect, that probably wouldn't offend me personally but I'd think very little of them.
That is what this is about, nobody forces you to respect anyone under any circumstances, however some people may take exception to those who demonstrate disrespect. I would if it was directed at my family, but it's uncalled for in most circumstances. | | | |
| I have to show respect. on 17:46 - Sep 14 with 811 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| I have to show respect. on 17:09 - Sep 14 by Scotia |
I would be amazed if Zara Phillips or Mike Tindall get or need any cash from the royal or taxpayers purse. They're pretty successful in their own right being world class sports people.
How do you know the booing at Wrexham and Liverpool were the result of a protest at FA mismangement? Cricket matches were also postponed on the Friday. They started on the Saturday and the postponed football matches will happen again. It was a symbolic gesture. It may have been a minor inconvenience but that's the rub of the green unfortunately.
You have freedom of speech and didn't need to demonstrate respect, you could have stayed outside until the minutes silence was over, you could have gone and stood in the concourse. Those who actively made a noise during the minutes silence demonstrated disrespect, that probably wouldn't offend me personally but I'd think very little of them.
That is what this is about, nobody forces you to respect anyone under any circumstances, however some people may take exception to those who demonstrate disrespect. I would if it was directed at my family, but it's uncalled for in most circumstances. |
Free rent at Gatcombe park (The impressive Grade II-listed property sits within a 730-acre estate between the villages of Minchinhampton and Avening in Gloucestershire). Given as a gift from the Queen who is supported by my taxes.
Zara spin offs are massive from sponsorships linked to Royal status. Its a good life for Mike. Zara would not make much without Royal connections. Expenses and of course no inheritance tax when HRH Anne passes.
I was shocked to see England playing on Saturday when the football was banned. It is a class issue. Swansea fans demonstrated they accept being badly treated. They have low self esteem and "own" racial abuse and actually engage in it.
The point I am making is I am increasingly asked to show respect for all sorts of things. BLM for example. If I disturbed the Queens 1 minute I would have got a kicking. If I disturbed the BLM gestures I would have been called a fascist an maybe got a kicking.
The press see thing differently to you.. Apparently 'the Swansea fans showed their respect' for the Queen and BLM by not objecting. It is respect by default. Show respect or get a kicking. This happened with BLM as well. | |
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| I have to show respect. on 18:20 - Sep 14 with 800 views | Gwyn737 |
| I have to show respect. on 17:46 - Sep 14 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Free rent at Gatcombe park (The impressive Grade II-listed property sits within a 730-acre estate between the villages of Minchinhampton and Avening in Gloucestershire). Given as a gift from the Queen who is supported by my taxes.
Zara spin offs are massive from sponsorships linked to Royal status. Its a good life for Mike. Zara would not make much without Royal connections. Expenses and of course no inheritance tax when HRH Anne passes.
I was shocked to see England playing on Saturday when the football was banned. It is a class issue. Swansea fans demonstrated they accept being badly treated. They have low self esteem and "own" racial abuse and actually engage in it.
The point I am making is I am increasingly asked to show respect for all sorts of things. BLM for example. If I disturbed the Queens 1 minute I would have got a kicking. If I disturbed the BLM gestures I would have been called a fascist an maybe got a kicking.
The press see thing differently to you.. Apparently 'the Swansea fans showed their respect' for the Queen and BLM by not objecting. It is respect by default. Show respect or get a kicking. This happened with BLM as well. |
Would anyone honestly swap places with them?
I wouldn’t for a minute. | | | |
| I have to show respect. on 19:07 - Sep 14 with 773 views | Treforys_Jack |
| I have to show respect. on 17:46 - Sep 14 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Free rent at Gatcombe park (The impressive Grade II-listed property sits within a 730-acre estate between the villages of Minchinhampton and Avening in Gloucestershire). Given as a gift from the Queen who is supported by my taxes.
Zara spin offs are massive from sponsorships linked to Royal status. Its a good life for Mike. Zara would not make much without Royal connections. Expenses and of course no inheritance tax when HRH Anne passes.
I was shocked to see England playing on Saturday when the football was banned. It is a class issue. Swansea fans demonstrated they accept being badly treated. They have low self esteem and "own" racial abuse and actually engage in it.
The point I am making is I am increasingly asked to show respect for all sorts of things. BLM for example. If I disturbed the Queens 1 minute I would have got a kicking. If I disturbed the BLM gestures I would have been called a fascist an maybe got a kicking.
The press see thing differently to you.. Apparently 'the Swansea fans showed their respect' for the Queen and BLM by not objecting. It is respect by default. Show respect or get a kicking. This happened with BLM as well. |
You don't have to do anything res, other than eventually die, oh and pay taxes obvs.
Seems to me your blaming the Royals when you're ire should be reserved for the FA. | | | |
| I have to show respect. on 21:24 - Sep 14 with 732 views | Scotia |
| I have to show respect. on 17:46 - Sep 14 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Free rent at Gatcombe park (The impressive Grade II-listed property sits within a 730-acre estate between the villages of Minchinhampton and Avening in Gloucestershire). Given as a gift from the Queen who is supported by my taxes.
Zara spin offs are massive from sponsorships linked to Royal status. Its a good life for Mike. Zara would not make much without Royal connections. Expenses and of course no inheritance tax when HRH Anne passes.
I was shocked to see England playing on Saturday when the football was banned. It is a class issue. Swansea fans demonstrated they accept being badly treated. They have low self esteem and "own" racial abuse and actually engage in it.
The point I am making is I am increasingly asked to show respect for all sorts of things. BLM for example. If I disturbed the Queens 1 minute I would have got a kicking. If I disturbed the BLM gestures I would have been called a fascist an maybe got a kicking.
The press see thing differently to you.. Apparently 'the Swansea fans showed their respect' for the Queen and BLM by not objecting. It is respect by default. Show respect or get a kicking. This happened with BLM as well. |
So Mike and Zara don't get any cash from the royals then.
Postponements weren't a class issue for crying out loud both the St Leger and Rugby were postponed there is nothing more upper class than that.
Postponements didn't treat fans badly, just inconvenienced some slightly. There are probably a few who are now able to make games they couldn't have otherwise made.
The Swans fans didn't demonstrate they accepted being treated badly they made a gesture to remember the queen, I did and that's as far as I will go.
Being asked to show respect isn't making it mandatory, you'd only be abused if you disrespected that particular issue. If you ignored it nothing would happen.
Anyway, the football is small beer in all this. I'd be livid if my medical appointment was cancelled on Monday. | | | |
| I have to show respect. on 21:30 - Sep 14 with 727 views | onehunglow |
| I have to show respect. on 15:48 - Sep 14 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Mike Tindall is another having a great life on my tax payments. I did find other things to do I had no choice. I am sure he would smack me in them mouth if I spoke out of turn about his granny in law. He knows where is bread is buttered.
The booing at Wrexham and Liverpool were the direct result of FA mismanagement and treating the fans like second class citizens. Cricket authorities were more sympathetic to the stakeholders.
If I had freedom of speech and objected to the action carried out on behalf of the Queen I would have been beaten up. I had no choice but to show respect It was not a option.
They are not all cap doffers in north east Wales and Liverpool. Here is a statement from Wrexham.
"To have the club’s name in the media this morning for all the wrong reasons is not a scenario that should have occurred and we wish to apologise to all who were offended by the actions of the minority, while thanking the vast majority who did observe the one-minute silence.
"A number of the individuals who disturbed the one-minute silence were asked to leave the Racecourse Ground for their own safety." |
There are many of Irish and Welsh decent in Liverpool,Wirral and Deeside;it is not and never has been a hotbed of Monarchy that rural Devon or Norfolk ,for example ,are.
There is a rebelious spirit in many families that has been passed down.
It is a very different part of England to say Kent or Suffolk or Hampshire. | |
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| I have to show respect. on 22:21 - Sep 14 with 703 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| I have to show respect. on 21:24 - Sep 14 by Scotia |
So Mike and Zara don't get any cash from the royals then.
Postponements weren't a class issue for crying out loud both the St Leger and Rugby were postponed there is nothing more upper class than that.
Postponements didn't treat fans badly, just inconvenienced some slightly. There are probably a few who are now able to make games they couldn't have otherwise made.
The Swans fans didn't demonstrate they accepted being treated badly they made a gesture to remember the queen, I did and that's as far as I will go.
Being asked to show respect isn't making it mandatory, you'd only be abused if you disrespected that particular issue. If you ignored it nothing would happen.
Anyway, the football is small beer in all this. I'd be livid if my medical appointment was cancelled on Monday. |
Of course they get very significant benefits from Grannie and Mummy who are in the pubic purse. Also free board and lodge for life from the same taxpayer source.
Welsh professional rugby (working class) was postponed, English rugby less working class went ahead. England (and Wales) cricket was not affected.
Postponement treated me very badly. I heard of it on the bus to Birmingham. My hotel had a 48 hour notice. There was no need to postpone but they did anyway. Liverpool and Wrexham fans expressed their disgust. Good for them.
I have no respect for either the Monarchy or the BLM. People who shut up for 60 seconds are not necessarily showing respect. The silence in mandatory for fear of physical violence. I argue there are too many of these gestures.
I m glad you see my point over these unnecessary and damaging Royal obligations. Others include loss of income for businesses such as the bar I went to on Saturday night. Many people had much of 2020 off on furlough. [Post edited 14 Sep 2022 22:22]
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| I have to show respect. on 22:24 - Sep 14 with 696 views | Sirjohnalot |
| I have to show respect. on 22:21 - Sep 14 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Of course they get very significant benefits from Grannie and Mummy who are in the pubic purse. Also free board and lodge for life from the same taxpayer source.
Welsh professional rugby (working class) was postponed, English rugby less working class went ahead. England (and Wales) cricket was not affected.
Postponement treated me very badly. I heard of it on the bus to Birmingham. My hotel had a 48 hour notice. There was no need to postpone but they did anyway. Liverpool and Wrexham fans expressed their disgust. Good for them.
I have no respect for either the Monarchy or the BLM. People who shut up for 60 seconds are not necessarily showing respect. The silence in mandatory for fear of physical violence. I argue there are too many of these gestures.
I m glad you see my point over these unnecessary and damaging Royal obligations. Others include loss of income for businesses such as the bar I went to on Saturday night. Many people had much of 2020 off on furlough. [Post edited 14 Sep 2022 22:22]
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Did you not consider what was said about police resources ? That’s why. | | | |
| I have to show respect. on 22:32 - Sep 14 with 685 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| I have to show respect. on 22:24 - Sep 14 by Sirjohnalot |
Did you not consider what was said about police resources ? That’s why. |
There were no police issues last weekend. THe Government advice was no matches needed to be postponed. Administrators were considering their own political careers not the fans. | |
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| I have to show respect. on 22:49 - Sep 14 with 668 views | Sirjohnalot |
| I have to show respect. on 22:32 - Sep 14 by ReslovenSwan1 |
There were no police issues last weekend. THe Government advice was no matches needed to be postponed. Administrators were considering their own political careers not the fans. |
Of course there was, the King was in London. There were proclamations in the capital cities.
The PM, Starmer and the Royal Family were there. Police presence would’ve been huge. | | | |
| I have to show respect. on 22:50 - Sep 14 with 662 views | felixstowe_jack |
Good to see Rangers fans defy EUFA orders tonight they played the UK National Anthem and the Rangers fan joined in sang it as well. This from a Scottish Club. | |
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| I have to show respect. on 06:54 - Sep 15 with 603 views | Scotia |
| I have to show respect. on 22:21 - Sep 14 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Of course they get very significant benefits from Grannie and Mummy who are in the pubic purse. Also free board and lodge for life from the same taxpayer source.
Welsh professional rugby (working class) was postponed, English rugby less working class went ahead. England (and Wales) cricket was not affected.
Postponement treated me very badly. I heard of it on the bus to Birmingham. My hotel had a 48 hour notice. There was no need to postpone but they did anyway. Liverpool and Wrexham fans expressed their disgust. Good for them.
I have no respect for either the Monarchy or the BLM. People who shut up for 60 seconds are not necessarily showing respect. The silence in mandatory for fear of physical violence. I argue there are too many of these gestures.
I m glad you see my point over these unnecessary and damaging Royal obligations. Others include loss of income for businesses such as the bar I went to on Saturday night. Many people had much of 2020 off on furlough. [Post edited 14 Sep 2022 22:22]
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"People who shut up for 60 seconds are not necessarily showing respect."
That's right, and exactly what I've been saying all along. So you don't "have" to show respect and its not "mandatory".
The Friday Rugby matches were postponed - this isn't a class issue it was a football leagues decision. It's minor in the grand scheme of things.
I'd rather lose £150 than a hospital appointment. Get over it. [Post edited 15 Sep 2022 7:13]
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| I have to show respect. on 11:22 - Sep 15 with 539 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| I have to show respect. on 06:54 - Sep 15 by Scotia |
"People who shut up for 60 seconds are not necessarily showing respect."
That's right, and exactly what I've been saying all along. So you don't "have" to show respect and its not "mandatory".
The Friday Rugby matches were postponed - this isn't a class issue it was a football leagues decision. It's minor in the grand scheme of things.
I'd rather lose £150 than a hospital appointment. Get over it. [Post edited 15 Sep 2022 7:13]
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Sadly some of the 1000 s with postponed operations will also have to as you put "get over it". There may even be some who do not "get over it".
Only perhaps a dozen or so with no access to private health. | |
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| I have to show respect. on 11:46 - Sep 15 with 529 views | Boundy |
| I have to show respect. on 11:22 - Sep 15 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Sadly some of the 1000 s with postponed operations will also have to as you put "get over it". There may even be some who do not "get over it".
Only perhaps a dozen or so with no access to private health. |
and the beat goes on and on and on | |
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