| And they ask why Wales votes labour 10:31 - Oct 25 with 6982 views | CountyJim |
Answers the question really doesn't it what a shower of s hit this Tory government is |  | | |  |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 11:06 - Oct 25 with 2639 views | raynor94 |
A bit ironic there seeing what Labour is doing to Wales outside of Cardiff |  |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 11:20 - Oct 25 with 2625 views | CountyJim |
But clearly not the carnage in Westminster and first minister approval rating still high so your point | | | |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 11:48 - Oct 25 with 2613 views | raynor94 |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 11:20 - Oct 25 by CountyJim |
But clearly not the carnage in Westminster and first minister approval rating still high so your point |
Drakeford has been a disaster for everywhere outside of Cardiff.
The investment in Cardiff has been obscene, and don't let's start on the dogs dinner he has made of the NHS, and refusal of an M4 relief road. | |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 12:09 - Oct 25 with 2603 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I don’t understand how Sunak can stand there with a straight face and say he’s going to fix this economic crisis when he has been chancellor of the exchequer for the best part of three years. He’s only been out of that office about two months. |  |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 12:13 - Oct 25 with 2600 views | CountyJim |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 12:09 - Oct 25 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I don’t understand how Sunak can stand there with a straight face and say he’s going to fix this economic crisis when he has been chancellor of the exchequer for the best part of three years. He’s only been out of that office about two months. |
He was also in bungling boris gang as well fined for partying the voters won't forget that | | | |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 12:13 - Oct 25 with 2601 views | Gwyn737 |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 12:09 - Oct 25 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I don’t understand how Sunak can stand there with a straight face and say he’s going to fix this economic crisis when he has been chancellor of the exchequer for the best part of three years. He’s only been out of that office about two months. |
Not just that, but it was his party during their time in power that subjected us to austerity for 9 years up until covid, running public services into the ground leading to us starting this period of financial difficulty, already well behind the start line. |  | | |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 12:24 - Oct 25 with 2591 views | krunchykarrot |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 11:48 - Oct 25 by raynor94 |
Drakeford has been a disaster for everywhere outside of Cardiff.
The investment in Cardiff has been obscene, and don't let's start on the dogs dinner he has made of the NHS, and refusal of an M4 relief road. |
Drakeford has been a massive disapointment i honestly believe he has made things worse. People will continue to vote labour in Wales and nothing will change. We need change and quickly. |  | | |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 12:25 - Oct 25 with 2588 views | felixstowe_jack |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 11:20 - Oct 25 by CountyJim |
But clearly not the carnage in Westminster and first minister approval rating still high so your point |
People in Wales will always say a Labour leader is doing well and is popular despite 20 years of failure since devolution.
Anti Business, anti UK, anti tourist, worse NHS in UK, lack of infrastructure investment, No M4 relief road despite 20 years of congestion at the Brynglas tunnels, no Anglesea has only one road bridge working.
Still people will keep voting for Drakeford. | |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 12:47 - Oct 25 with 2572 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 12:13 - Oct 25 by Gwyn737 |
Not just that, but it was his party during their time in power that subjected us to austerity for 9 years up until covid, running public services into the ground leading to us starting this period of financial difficulty, already well behind the start line. |
He also looks like a character out of Wallace and Gromit although I’m not certain that’s important | |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 13:46 - Oct 25 with 2535 views | krunchykarrot |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 12:25 - Oct 25 by felixstowe_jack |
People in Wales will always say a Labour leader is doing well and is popular despite 20 years of failure since devolution.
Anti Business, anti UK, anti tourist, worse NHS in UK, lack of infrastructure investment, No M4 relief road despite 20 years of congestion at the Brynglas tunnels, no Anglesea has only one road bridge working.
Still people will keep voting for Drakeford. |
Agree completely, the thing is he is tied to the Labour/Corbyn objectives. The tories are no better, we need a forward thinking party who can make a difference. We are a small devolved nation where change in the NHS should be paramount, following the cult like status where the NHS is beyond reproach is madness. Get someone in charge who cherry picks whats working and then changes/abolishes the insefficiences would be a good start.
And before anybody accuses me of being a Tory i can assure you ive never voted for them in my life. We have recently got rid of local Labour party councillors in my area and the improvement has been immediate for all to see. | | | |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 14:06 - Oct 25 with 2527 views | controversial_jack |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 11:06 - Oct 25 by raynor94 |
A bit ironic there seeing what Labour is doing to Wales outside of Cardiff |
Has Wales had 3 leaders within a few months. Has the Welsh leader lied to the people, parliament and the queen? That's irony! | | | |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 14:42 - Oct 25 with 2508 views | krunchykarrot |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 14:06 - Oct 25 by controversial_jack |
Has Wales had 3 leaders within a few months. Has the Welsh leader lied to the people, parliament and the queen? That's irony! |
No,no and no and your point is?
Drakeford has presided over a sh1t show in wales pointing to Westminster as a defence is futile IMHO. This is the guy who shut off supermarket ailses and would have locked us down longer and harder. We must start holding these politicians to account and replacing not comparing crap with crap. | | | |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 18:22 - Oct 25 with 2463 views | BarrySwan |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 11:20 - Oct 25 by CountyJim |
But clearly not the carnage in Westminster and first minister approval rating still high so your point |
Presumably you missed these 2 year wait operation figures reported by the media and posted up by another poster the other day.
I'd have thought this every bit if not more concerning as the shambles in Westminster to those of us living in Labour run Wales?
England:
population: 56.5m
Number of people: 2,646
Scotland:
population: 5.5m
Number of people: 7,650
Wales:
population: 3.2m
Number of people: 59,350 | | | |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 18:49 - Oct 25 with 2445 views | shingle |
It does seem the labour run towns like Llanelli are absolute sh_t holes compared to our towns that are run by the Tories. | | | |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 20:31 - Oct 25 with 2391 views | Catullus |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 13:46 - Oct 25 by krunchykarrot |
Agree completely, the thing is he is tied to the Labour/Corbyn objectives. The tories are no better, we need a forward thinking party who can make a difference. We are a small devolved nation where change in the NHS should be paramount, following the cult like status where the NHS is beyond reproach is madness. Get someone in charge who cherry picks whats working and then changes/abolishes the insefficiences would be a good start.
And before anybody accuses me of being a Tory i can assure you ive never voted for them in my life. We have recently got rid of local Labour party councillors in my area and the improvement has been immediate for all to see. |
Yes, what we need is a genuine alternative to Labour AND the tories.
Both have been a massive shitshow for the UK and Wales.
The NHS has way too many managers, wastes money hand over fist and if I told you some of the things I know that I shouldnt know you'd be horrified, even by current standards of horrified.
Put it this way, the payouts to claims of medical negligence has risen by quite a bit. | |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 22:49 - Oct 25 with 2337 views | Kilkennyjack |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 20:31 - Oct 25 by Catullus |
Yes, what we need is a genuine alternative to Labour AND the tories.
Both have been a massive shitshow for the UK and Wales.
The NHS has way too many managers, wastes money hand over fist and if I told you some of the things I know that I shouldnt know you'd be horrified, even by current standards of horrified.
Put it this way, the payouts to claims of medical negligence has risen by quite a bit. |
Plaid.
Although welsh labour is not Starmers london labour. |  |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 23:17 - Oct 25 with 2322 views | Kilkennyjack |
Rishi has done the right thing in getting in contact with Drakers and Comrade Nicola already.
Truss did not bother, and Johnson asked his ministers to do it.
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 07:06 - Oct 26 with 2282 views | felixstowe_jack |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 23:17 - Oct 25 by Kilkennyjack |
Rishi has done the right thing in getting in contact with Drakers and Comrade Nicola already.
Truss did not bother, and Johnson asked his ministers to do it.
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Well hopefully Drakeford and Sturgeon will now put the UK ahead of their own personal agendas. A strong, prosperous UK actually means more money for Scotland and Wales.
It is amazing how the left wing would rather the UK go into decline rather than work in the best interestsof the UK. . | |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 08:39 - Oct 26 with 2246 views | Boundy |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 22:49 - Oct 25 by Kilkennyjack |
Plaid.
Although welsh labour is not Starmers london labour. |
Never trust a party who have no faith in their own policies but quite happy to cling onto the coat tails of others just to have some semblance of power. plaid are the welsh version of the Lib Dem’s,no substance | |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 09:15 - Oct 26 with 2239 views | Boundy |
A question should be asked is why is there such voter apathy in Wales | |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 09:26 - Oct 26 with 2228 views | CountyJim |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 09:15 - Oct 26 by Boundy |
A question should be asked is why is there such voter apathy in Wales |
Again you could say that in other areas of the UK that only vote Tory | | | |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 09:57 - Oct 26 with 2217 views | Whiterockin |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 09:26 - Oct 26 by CountyJim |
Again you could say that in other areas of the UK that only vote Tory |
I think he was talking about voter apathy and why over 50% of the electorate in Wales don't bother to vote. |  | | |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 10:06 - Oct 26 with 2211 views | Boundy |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 09:57 - Oct 26 by Whiterockin |
I think he was talking about voter apathy and why over 50% of the electorate in Wales don't bother to vote. |
I was indeed , in general politics in Wales has become stagnant , no fresh ideas nor solutions just the same rhetoric now mixed in with calls for Independence , looking at the current crop of career politicians Wales has to offer the very thought of it fills me with dread . | |
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| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 11:26 - Oct 26 with 2188 views | majorraglan |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 18:22 - Oct 25 by BarrySwan |
Presumably you missed these 2 year wait operation figures reported by the media and posted up by another poster the other day.
I'd have thought this every bit if not more concerning as the shambles in Westminster to those of us living in Labour run Wales?
England:
population: 56.5m
Number of people: 2,646
Scotland:
population: 5.5m
Number of people: 7,650
Wales:
population: 3.2m
Number of people: 59,350 |
I don’t believe the term operation is correct, the initial BBC site carrying the story says “treatment” which could include things like physiotherapist, a hearing test etc. The BMA have published information which states there are 7 million people across the UK on NHS consultant led care waiting lists, so it’s clear we’re not getting the right information to be able to make accurate comparisons.
The rise is inexcusable and needs sorting. Wales has a bigger proportion of older people and patients in Wales tend to stay in hospital for an average of 7 days whereas in England it’s 4.5 days, the extra 2.5 days impacts on bed availability which in turn impacts on treatment schedules. If people can be discharged quicker it will improve patient flow, but the ability to discharge older patients which is linked to the availability of care packages. Carers are some of the lowest paid workers and there aren’t enough people prepared to go the job.
The ambulance service issues are directly linked to the ability to discharge patients in A&E.
More needs to be done to get things moving in the right direction but the WG need to up their game and we need better services. | | | |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 12:41 - Oct 26 with 2152 views | BarrySwan |
| And they ask why Wales votes labour on 11:26 - Oct 26 by majorraglan |
I don’t believe the term operation is correct, the initial BBC site carrying the story says “treatment” which could include things like physiotherapist, a hearing test etc. The BMA have published information which states there are 7 million people across the UK on NHS consultant led care waiting lists, so it’s clear we’re not getting the right information to be able to make accurate comparisons.
The rise is inexcusable and needs sorting. Wales has a bigger proportion of older people and patients in Wales tend to stay in hospital for an average of 7 days whereas in England it’s 4.5 days, the extra 2.5 days impacts on bed availability which in turn impacts on treatment schedules. If people can be discharged quicker it will improve patient flow, but the ability to discharge older patients which is linked to the availability of care packages. Carers are some of the lowest paid workers and there aren’t enough people prepared to go the job.
The ambulance service issues are directly linked to the ability to discharge patients in A&E.
More needs to be done to get things moving in the right direction but the WG need to up their game and we need better services. |
These figures are so staggeringly high for Wales in comparison to the other UK countries that quite frankly no difference in accounting gets anywhere near touching the scale of the problem.
And of course are nothing new, continuing a long term well reported trend.
In regards to the ambulance service in Wales ( not referring to front line staff) its been a shambolic disaster for decades with target figures first relaxed then relaxed more then finally abandoned as the scale of the ineptness by senior staff continues unabated,
The A&E scandal which does of course encompass the amount of ambulances lined up outside for hours with patients is also a long term disaster that we in Wales have experienced for years. | | | |
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