| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? 08:28 - Feb 12 with 4290 views | STID2017 |
It seems to me obvious now that the owners have no desire to back Martin ( as demonstrated in the January window) or sack him or reach agreement for him to leave.
I think the only logical reason for this is that they are ( as has been discussed elsewhere ) looking to sell the club and do not wish to spend a penny more than is necessary.
Of course should they be successful in selling the club with Martin in situ, it would then be incumbent on the new owners to either support Martin or replace him.
Maybe this was always their Master plan ? |  |
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| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 12:19 - Feb 12 with 1128 views | magicdaps10 |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 12:06 - Feb 12 by GixerJack |
His contract ends in the summer and Exeter are in the running for promotion.
My guess is that he’s hedging his bets, if they do get promoted they’ll offer him a better contract if they don’t get promoted he gets a big signing on fee elsewhere.
From the clubs perspective the spoils of getting promoted by retaining their best players in January outstrips the transfer fee offered then.
It could still all go Kwasi Kwarteng for both or either party mind |
It's certainly a gamble.
The lad becomes his own boss come the summer so will be looking for a handsome signing on fee, more than what he would have got in January.
Exeter have taken a gamble, named a price that would have been too good to turn down but obviously see promotion as a carrot dangler. Well done Exeter. |  |
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| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 12:19 - Feb 12 with 1126 views | A_Fans_Dad |
The whole premise of the OP is not logical.
Why would any owner run down the worth of the product they are supposedly trying to sell.
Does the OP think they are deliberately trying to drive down the price to attract a buyer? |  | | |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 12:24 - Feb 12 with 1117 views | max936 |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 09:42 - Feb 12 by johnlangy |
I just voted in the poll and blamed RM and the owners equally.
We have the fourth highest goals for in the league. Only the top three are better. And yet he's unable to coach the defence to defend properly. Unable is the correct word because he's had 18 months so far and they still defend like amateurs at times. And that's his fault. No one else's.
And the owners ? I said like many others that if we were to get in a proper right back and dependable (experienced ?) striker that would give us a huge lift in trying to get into the playoffs. How RM would coach the new defender to defend is another question but right back is definitely a very weak area.
And getting those two players in would cost effectively nothing bearing in mind the money coming from Burnley for Oba plus the savings already made with him and other players leaving. So the owners would not have to spend a penny. |
Selecting both is the only option worth considering, in my opinion. |  |
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| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 12:40 - Feb 12 with 1106 views | magicdaps10 |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 12:19 - Feb 12 by A_Fans_Dad |
The whole premise of the OP is not logical.
Why would any owner run down the worth of the product they are supposedly trying to sell.
Does the OP think they are deliberately trying to drive down the price to attract a buyer? |
This is football.......logic doesn't come into it!
I wouldn't be suprised that if the yanks could go back that they would never have bought the club in the first place.........sometimes in life you have to just cut your losses.
Why spend on something if you are actively looking to get rid of it, seems quite logical to me in the non logical world of football. | |
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| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 12:44 - Feb 12 with 1098 views | magicdaps10 |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 12:24 - Feb 12 by max936 |
Selecting both is the only option worth considering, in my opinion. |
If the blame is on Martin with the team then the blame for the manager needs to be put on the owners........its a chain of command surely!?
Martin needs to sort things out, if he doesn't then it's down to the owners to take control.
The owners lack of hands on with this club is a major worry. | |
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| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 12:47 - Feb 12 with 1095 views | max936 |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 12:44 - Feb 12 by magicdaps10 |
If the blame is on Martin with the team then the blame for the manager needs to be put on the owners........its a chain of command surely!?
Martin needs to sort things out, if he doesn't then it's down to the owners to take control.
The owners lack of hands on with this club is a major worry. |
I'll stick with my opinion | |
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| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 12:49 - Feb 12 with 1095 views | magicdaps10 |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 12:47 - Feb 12 by max936 |
I'll stick with my opinion |
That's fair enough Max 👠| |
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| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 13:21 - Feb 12 with 1063 views | STID2017 |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 12:19 - Feb 12 by A_Fans_Dad |
The whole premise of the OP is not logical.
Why would any owner run down the worth of the product they are supposedly trying to sell.
Does the OP think they are deliberately trying to drive down the price to attract a buyer? |
If the club had been well run from day one under these owners, we would still be in the Premier League.
Our owners using logic ?
Unfortunately not | |
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| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 14:31 - Feb 12 with 1028 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 13:21 - Feb 12 by STID2017 |
If the club had been well run from day one under these owners, we would still be in the Premier League.
Our owners using logic ?
Unfortunately not |
So every club that gets relegated is purely because of the owners.
It just goes to show how many terrible owners there are doesn't it? | | | |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 14:56 - Feb 12 with 992 views | jojaca |
Only the ones behind the scenes really know what's gone on. All we do on here is have educated guesses.
The owners know by now that they've backed the wrong horse and I'm surprised Russell is still here, I thought the owners would be more ruthless. I personally think Russell will be gone in the summer. Start from fresh again with new manager with full pre season. |  |
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| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 15:26 - Feb 12 with 963 views | Whiterockin |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 14:56 - Feb 12 by jojaca |
Only the ones behind the scenes really know what's gone on. All we do on here is have educated guesses.
The owners know by now that they've backed the wrong horse and I'm surprised Russell is still here, I thought the owners would be more ruthless. I personally think Russell will be gone in the summer. Start from fresh again with new manager with full pre season. |
Wednesday night is a very, very big match for RM. |  | | |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 16:02 - Feb 12 with 930 views | STID2017 |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 14:31 - Feb 12 by A_Fans_Dad |
So every club that gets relegated is purely because of the owners.
It just goes to show how many terrible owners there are doesn't it? |
In some cases yes, but in many cases no.
However in our case Season 2017 - 18 saw:
A) The dithering over the sale of Gylfi, and
B) The last gasp sale of Llorente, leading to
C) The panic buying of Bony MkII, Sam Clucas, as well the earlier signing of Roque Mesa and the loan signing of Renato Sanches, all of which turned out to be poor signings.
D) The re - signing of Ayew in January 2018 for a large transfer fee and a large contract, which affected us financially for several years.
The sale of Gylfi and Llorente, together with the above signings were all overseen by the owners.
This had a massive negative effect on our season, which saw us relegated | |
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| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 20:38 - Feb 12 with 852 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 13:21 - Feb 12 by STID2017 |
If the club had been well run from day one under these owners, we would still be in the Premier League.
Our owners using logic ?
Unfortunately not |
That’s extremely unlikely isn’t it.
On what basis?
It’s exceedingly rare that clubs our size last longer than we did without spending hundreds of millions like Brighton.
Use Bournemouth as a case study if you wish. We were on the way down anyway, costs had already reached income levels under the Laudrup era.
It was a slippery slope. |  |
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| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 20:59 - Feb 12 with 834 views | STID2017 |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 12:40 - Feb 12 by magicdaps10 |
This is football.......logic doesn't come into it!
I wouldn't be suprised that if the yanks could go back that they would never have bought the club in the first place.........sometimes in life you have to just cut your losses.
Why spend on something if you are actively looking to get rid of it, seems quite logical to me in the non logical world of football. |
Good post and well explained.
Football defies logic. | |
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| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 21:06 - Feb 12 with 814 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 14:31 - Feb 12 by A_Fans_Dad |
So every club that gets relegated is purely because of the owners.
It just goes to show how many terrible owners there are doesn't it? |
Great point. | |
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| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 21:10 - Feb 12 with 805 views | magicdaps10 |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 20:59 - Feb 12 by STID2017 |
Good post and well explained.
Football defies logic. |
Football doesn't run like many other business that relies alot on logic.
I could be wrong but I think I read that the yanks were happy to take less than they paid for the club. | |
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| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 21:28 - Feb 12 with 789 views | STID2017 |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 21:10 - Feb 12 by magicdaps10 |
Football doesn't run like many other business that relies alot on logic.
I could be wrong but I think I read that the yanks were happy to take less than they paid for the club. |
I came across an article a couple of years old that said they would take £38 million I believe ? | |
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| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 21:46 - Feb 12 with 766 views | BillyChong |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 14:31 - Feb 12 by A_Fans_Dad |
So every club that gets relegated is purely because of the owners.
It just goes to show how many terrible owners there are doesn't it? |
Outcomes in football depend on a number of factors, but owners are one and plenty have taken the blame and some even owned the blame. Aston Villa for one. There was even on statement where the yanks here shouldered some of the blame for the drop down to the championship. | | | |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 23:38 - Feb 12 with 693 views | Boundy |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 11:17 - Feb 12 by magicdaps10 |
Thought I read something but the bids we put in were really low, it's the reasoning behind the words that stated that we were willing to pay more........in other words they would be free agents come the summer.
Saying that, Exeter from what I am led to believe wanted a silly figure for the guy.......we didn't come close to that figure and rightly so. |
Well we may well have bid for a number of players albeit low ball figures but at least the Club can say well we tried as ,we've witnessed many times before , not saying this the case this January but it's happened before | |
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| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 11:01 - Feb 13 with 640 views | Badlands |
They majority shareholders were prepared to back him.
But I wouldn’t. |  |
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| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 11:05 - Feb 13 with 629 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 23:38 - Feb 12 by Boundy |
Well we may well have bid for a number of players albeit low ball figures but at least the Club can say well we tried as ,we've witnessed many times before , not saying this the case this January but it's happened before |
We bid more than they ended up going for, that’s the opposite of lowball.
I understand it hurts the narrative, but let’s start saying it as it is please. This constant pretence is just annoying for everyone who has to read it. | |
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| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 11:40 - Feb 13 with 612 views | Badlands |
| A Big Possible Reason Why The Owners Won't Sack Martin ? on 12:40 - Feb 12 by magicdaps10 |
This is football.......logic doesn't come into it!
I wouldn't be suprised that if the yanks could go back that they would never have bought the club in the first place.........sometimes in life you have to just cut your losses.
Why spend on something if you are actively looking to get rid of it, seems quite logical to me in the non logical world of football. |
Is it football, is it business?
Successful business people (which Kaplan, Levien and Silverstein are) do not run down businesses they paid a lot for and have injected funds into unless they can reduce costs to such an extent they can stop operating, sell the assets and make the profit. We have pretty much nothing to sell other than player contracts.
If they could go back I reckon they should have replaced High Jenkins much earlier. Their error was trusting local knowledge. This led to ridiculous spending and poor decisions regarding players and managers.
But, this keeps cropping up, who would buy Swansea City from them?
No one but the Americans could be persuaded when they bought shares, despite two year of looking and being in the PL.
Ask yourself why.
It is quite obvious to me and others that no one would want almost a third of their assets owned by others … others who contribute nothing and have been seen to be negative. Others who will benefit from the main shareholders £$€ and efforts but contribute nothing.
Are they perfect? No.
Are they evil? No.
Are we solvent? Yes.
Are we looking at non-league football? No.
We have, in our history, only been in a higher league for 9 seasons (2 relegation seasons) so the scarey marys claiming we are doomed really do need to get a grip. | |
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