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Looks increasingly like the Tories will lose over a thousand seats which would be worse than the number they put out as the worst case scenario and for expectation managment.
This follows an equally poor performance in 2019. There is a difference between the two in that Labour aslo perfomed pretty poorly in 2019.
I reckon this is partly due to Starmer replacing Corbyn but more that not being able to afford your weekly shop or get a GP appointment is more important to people than childish woke culture wars and being nasty to immigrants.
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English council elections on 12:47 - May 5 with 2174 views
The Lib Dem's seem to be doing very well at the moment. Labour only picking up just over half of the Tory losses is a surprise to me, I expected them to get more. Still quite a few results to come in though.
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English council elections on 12:51 - May 5 with 2166 views
English council elections on 12:47 - May 5 by Whiterockin
The Lib Dem's seem to be doing very well at the moment. Labour only picking up just over half of the Tory losses is a surprise to me, I expected them to get more. Still quite a few results to come in though.
I think there's quite a lot of tactical votong going on.
Whether it's straight anti-Tory or just a thirst for more liberal politics I'm not sure.
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English council elections on 13:39 - May 5 with 2133 views
English council elections on 12:51 - May 5 by Gwyn737
I think there's quite a lot of tactical votong going on.
Whether it's straight anti-Tory or just a thirst for more liberal politics I'm not sure.
To me it shows that Labour need to stand up and be counted and not expect the Tory drop in votes to just land in their lap. Otherwise they will not get the landslide general election result they are expecting. Obviously Wales is another matter.
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English council elections on 14:15 - May 5 with 2112 views
English council elections on 13:39 - May 5 by pencoedjack
Just what this country needs to become more liberal
Depends of the defintion of liberal, Penc.
Nobody can look at these results coming in and think "That's because the Tories havent been right leaning enough". There's no room left to the right to pick up voters, really.
This is the first election in years UKIP has 0 seats. We've a good idea where these voters are now...
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English council elections on 15:23 - May 5 with 2075 views
English council elections on 14:15 - May 5 by Gwyn737
Depends of the defintion of liberal, Penc.
Nobody can look at these results coming in and think "That's because the Tories havent been right leaning enough". There's no room left to the right to pick up voters, really.
This is the first election in years UKIP has 0 seats. We've a good idea where these voters are now...
Can't wait for the Welsh council elections, even more Labour councils to carry on the great work they've done for Wales over the last twenty odd years.
English council elections on 15:23 - May 5 by Flashberryjack
Can't wait for the Welsh council elections, even more Labour councils to carry on the great work they've done for Wales over the last twenty odd years.
And when they do people will have the choice to chuck them out.
It’s up to the Tories to provide a viable alternative. At the minute they clearly don’t.
It’s almost as if standing on the coast wistfully staring out to the channel pointing at small boats and complaining about unisex toilets wasn’t enough.
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English council elections on 16:59 - May 5 with 2004 views
English council elections on 17:06 - May 5 by felixstowe_jack
Liberals and greens have gained more seats than Labour who's share of the vote is about the same as in the last local elections.
If this was repeated in a general election it would result in a hung parliament.
The most recent update from the Daily Telegraph is if this result were to be repeated at a GE, Labour would have a majority of 56, but we’re a long way off a GE so who knows.
The Conservatives have now lost over a 1000 seats, the previous worse case scenario from people like Sir John Curtis was 1,000 seats, we’re past that with 8 councils still to declare.
I don’t think we can read too much in to this as we’re some way off a GE and I can’t see the Greens showing as well then.
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English council elections on 20:25 - May 5 with 1817 views
English council elections on 17:21 - May 5 by Gwyn737
Full results in and its crackers.
Lib Dem 13 (+9) Green 11 (+9) Independents 10 (+5) Conservative 8 (-26) Labour 3 (+3)
The LD's often do quite well in the locals but it hardly ever translates to a GE. They are often a protest vote, in my opinion.
All these experts can predict what they like in the next GE but none of us know what will happen before then. I doubt the tories can improve enough to win the next GE, but strange things do happen sometimes!
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English council elections on 21:35 - May 5 with 1770 views
English council elections on 20:07 - May 5 by majorraglan
The most recent update from the Daily Telegraph is if this result were to be repeated at a GE, Labour would have a majority of 56, but we’re a long way off a GE so who knows.
The Conservatives have now lost over a 1000 seats, the previous worse case scenario from people like Sir John Curtis was 1,000 seats, we’re past that with 8 councils still to declare.
I don’t think we can read too much in to this as we’re some way off a GE and I can’t see the Greens showing as well then.
I don't see how you can look at English local elections and transfer that to a UK General Election. The Welsh, Scottish and Northern Ireland results would be completely different. 18 months down the line the political landscape could also be completely different as would any protest vote. I'm still betting on a hung parliament as things stand.
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English council elections on 21:43 - May 5 with 1743 views
English council elections on 21:35 - May 5 by Whiterockin
I don't see how you can look at English local elections and transfer that to a UK General Election. The Welsh, Scottish and Northern Ireland results would be completely different. 18 months down the line the political landscape could also be completely different as would any protest vote. I'm still betting on a hung parliament as things stand.
I’m only going on what the pollsters and pundits in the Daily Telegraph are saying. Given all the sleaze we’ve seen and the antics of Boris and Truss, Im a bit surprised they’ll still got around 25% of the vote.
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English council elections on 22:00 - May 5 with 1730 views
English council elections on 21:43 - May 5 by majorraglan
I’m only going on what the pollsters and pundits in the Daily Telegraph are saying. Given all the sleaze we’ve seen and the antics of Boris and Truss, Im a bit surprised they’ll still got around 25% of the vote.
I think a hung parliament is probably favourite at the moment.
Long term I think there’s a change coming as young people grow up poorer. Historically people move to the right with age, for reasons better put by Stuart Lee:
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