| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton 11:40 - Jun 5 with 5045 views | SwansIndependent |
 An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton 5th Jun 2023 11:38Another jewel in the Russell Martin to Southampton saga became evident yesterday when the Saints made it known to several journalists their position on the situation of his employment. And a new turning point became evident as a result. This means that once the Championship fixtures of Southampton are announced next week they will appoint Martin as their new manager. The reason ? Any compensation they have to pay for the appointment will be as a championship club.  0
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| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 18:57 - Jun 5 with 1668 views | swan_si |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 18:14 - Jun 5 by Luther27 |
Why is everything so flaming complicated with our club. Nothing ever seems to go smoothly wether it be managerial changes to signing players.
I honestly have come to the end of my tether. |
Why are you having a go at our club, when it seems like Southampton are the ones you should be moaning about.
Surely we are entitled to get what we deserve financially. |  | | |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 20:00 - Jun 5 with 1578 views | max936 |
Nothings ever straight forward with this lot in charge, it never has been since they've been here. [Post edited 6 Jun 2023 20:24]
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| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 20:02 - Jun 5 with 1572 views | max936 |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 18:57 - Jun 5 by swan_si |
Why are you having a go at our club, when it seems like Southampton are the ones you should be moaning about.
Surely we are entitled to get what we deserve financially. |
I agree with your last sentence, but there's plenty of past evidence of long drawn out drama's. | | | |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 20:40 - Jun 5 with 1535 views | Luther27 |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 18:57 - Jun 5 by swan_si |
Why are you having a go at our club, when it seems like Southampton are the ones you should be moaning about.
Surely we are entitled to get what we deserve financially. |
Because it’s yet another cloud over our heads. The quicker we move on the better don’t you think? | | | |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 22:26 - Jun 5 with 1416 views | jackrmee |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 18:25 - Jun 5 by onehunglow |
It baffles me.
Coach wants to leave so let him
If it costs ,it costs.what costs more is a bad pre season and preparation . |
You tell “if it costs it costs” to hedge fund managers |  |
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| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 22:55 - Jun 5 with 1397 views | swan_si |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 20:40 - Jun 5 by Luther27 |
Because it’s yet another cloud over our heads. The quicker we move on the better don’t you think? |
I agree, the quicker the better, by why is our club to blame? | | | |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 23:05 - Jun 5 with 1380 views | GVJack |
Maybe a bit of a controversial statement but I think RM has carried himself quite well over the last few weeks. If he has spoken openly/publicly then I've missed it.
Ok... It seems obvious he's had discussions with another club having been 'Tapped up' but that is not uncommon in football nowadays.
I'm pleased he's leaving, I don't think we reached our potential with him, some things good, other things could have been a lot better, if he trusted the attack a little more and made us more ruthless I think we could have taken some stopping this year but hey ho.
Despite me being pleased we seem to be separating in our ways, I don't think RM has done anything particuarly wrong, he's under contract and is allowing his current employer and prospective employer to thrash out the details. Let's be honest, by hook or by crook he's gone this summer with either a transfer or sacking as.his position is now untenable. But why would he personally resign from Swansea and take up another post with all the legal formalities, costs and stress that will incur?
I want the club to get the best deal possible, but not at the cost of this dragging on for another 3/4 weeks. I (blindly) hope they already have his successor lined up and it's a case.of one out and one in with a quick transition.... But history tells me we may see this drag in for some time.
It's never dull being a Jack
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| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 00:50 - Jun 6 with 1346 views | Robbie |
Would be great to go back to the games under the lights standing on the North Bank , return there tomorrow , Doug Sharpe , Mel Nurse , Harry Griffiths and Roy Saunders . All Swans .
Football is a buisness , now driven by Sponsors and TV rights , a situation where potential investors dream of the promised land . Premier League , where their return is .
As with managers and players they want the best in their self interests , ok , but loyalty ,no.
Looks like Wrexham have done well in their boardroom choice , hope things do not go wrong for them if the bubble bursts , then Hollywood sticks with them .
They have hung on to Paul Mullin , he must have been a target for others . | | | |
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| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 12:13 - Jun 6 with 1238 views | Luther27 |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 22:55 - Jun 5 by swan_si |
I agree, the quicker the better, by why is our club to blame? |
It’s year after year. Managers, players come and go but the drama is constant.
We have a lot to do at the club regarding player contracts, pre season etc. Is it worth holding out for £400k? The owner’s priority should be focused on stabilising the situation in my opinion hence my criticism. | | | |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 12:22 - Jun 6 with 1220 views | Whiterockin |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 12:13 - Jun 6 by Luther27 |
It’s year after year. Managers, players come and go but the drama is constant.
We have a lot to do at the club regarding player contracts, pre season etc. Is it worth holding out for £400k? The owner’s priority should be focused on stabilising the situation in my opinion hence my criticism. |
If it was your club and your money, would you hold out for the near half a million pounds you believe you are entitled. I would. Players are on holiday, transfer window isn't open yet, what's the rush. |  | | |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 12:29 - Jun 6 with 1192 views | onehunglow |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 12:13 - Jun 6 by Luther27 |
It’s year after year. Managers, players come and go but the drama is constant.
We have a lot to do at the club regarding player contracts, pre season etc. Is it worth holding out for £400k? The owner’s priority should be focused on stabilising the situation in my opinion hence my criticism. |
It’s a balance.
Get rid now and it gives us plenty of time to prepare for next season. When we will not be able to get away with what we have done on the pitch .
We have to get players in of a quality to encourage fans and dispose of those who don’t really want,like Whittaker, and sell players like Piroe for a realistic fee. Grimes is ,IMO vastly overated and should be the first to be sold if a bid of six figures up front comes in. My opinion.
What we don’t want to do is leave it all to the last minute and start the season disjointed and disorganised . | |
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| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 12:37 - Jun 6 with 1198 views | Luther27 |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 12:22 - Jun 6 by Whiterockin |
If it was your club and your money, would you hold out for the near half a million pounds you believe you are entitled. I would. Players are on holiday, transfer window isn't open yet, what's the rush. |
Stability. A new manager in place will want his own players. Yes the window isn’t open yet but i guarantee deals are already being done. Do we want to flirt with relegation, and how much revenue will that cost? | | | |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 12:41 - Jun 6 with 1183 views | onehunglow |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 12:37 - Jun 6 by Luther27 |
Stability. A new manager in place will want his own players. Yes the window isn’t open yet but i guarantee deals are already being done. Do we want to flirt with relegation, and how much revenue will that cost? |
Indeed.
Penny pinching could cost us big time.
Relegation would be catastrophic . | |
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| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 17:00 - Jun 6 with 1097 views | Fireboy2 |
We do not want to go down the same route as two years ago when the owners f@#£Ed about with cooper and got Martin in place iirc a week before the start of the season.
It's becoming a usual trend with our owners, it was a tad easier when we had parachute payments but since they evaporated they have become a bit scrooge like. [Post edited 6 Jun 2023 17:03]
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| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 17:53 - Jun 6 with 1051 views | KeithHaynes |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 17:00 - Jun 6 by Fireboy2 |
We do not want to go down the same route as two years ago when the owners f@#£Ed about with cooper and got Martin in place iirc a week before the start of the season.
It's becoming a usual trend with our owners, it was a tad easier when we had parachute payments but since they evaporated they have become a bit scrooge like. [Post edited 6 Jun 2023 17:03]
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The Swans will be reluctant to pay out anything in June, it’s a dead month for clubs managing their budgets carefully. Thousands of pounds can be saved. |  |
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| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 18:32 - Jun 6 with 1009 views | majorraglan |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 17:53 - Jun 6 by KeithHaynes |
The Swans will be reluctant to pay out anything in June, it’s a dead month for clubs managing their budgets carefully. Thousands of pounds can be saved. |
I agree about not wanting to shell out hard earned, but they need to have the manager position and players lined up ready to go as opposed to delaying things. Lots of players have families, they need to sort out houses, possibly schools etc etc which takes time. If they’re looking at free agents, then the best will be snapped up early doors. | | | |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 18:35 - Jun 6 with 1005 views | KeithHaynes |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 18:32 - Jun 6 by majorraglan |
I agree about not wanting to shell out hard earned, but they need to have the manager position and players lined up ready to go as opposed to delaying things. Lots of players have families, they need to sort out houses, possibly schools etc etc which takes time. If they’re looking at free agents, then the best will be snapped up early doors. |
Paul Watson will fill that gap. 👠| |
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| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 18:41 - Jun 6 with 982 views | Fireboy2 |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 18:35 - Jun 6 by KeithHaynes |
Paul Watson will fill that gap. 👠|
Hes got his work cut out. | | | |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 20:27 - Jun 6 with 912 views | max936 |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 18:41 - Jun 6 by Fireboy2 |
Hes got his work cut out. |
Poor bugger doesn't know what he's signed up to  | | | |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 20:37 - Jun 6 with 887 views | KeithHaynes |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 20:27 - Jun 6 by max936 |
Poor bugger doesn't know what he's signed up to |
A far bigger wedge that’s he was on at Luton for sure. | |
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| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 22:07 - Jun 6 with 796 views | guthrieintherain |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 18:35 - Jun 6 by KeithHaynes |
Paul Watson will fill that gap. 👠|
But you would think the manager would need to be in place before we start signing players.
Bit strange Watson signing players unless we have someone lined up. [Post edited 6 Jun 2023 22:10]
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| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 22:21 - Jun 6 with 767 views | majorraglan |
I know someone who’s involved in professional sport, their contract came to an end a few weeks ago and while pre season doesn’t get underway for a while yet, that persons already signed their next contract elsewhere and is now being paid.
This could be see as dead time, but some clubs are actively recruiting and doing deals so the owners need to be moving things along - they can’t dilly dally and faff about. The Championship is different to the US, over here you get relegated over there you finish bottom and get to go again the following year. | | | |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 22:43 - Jun 6 with 728 views | Fireboy2 |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 22:07 - Jun 6 by guthrieintherain |
But you would think the manager would need to be in place before we start signing players.
Bit strange Watson signing players unless we have someone lined up. [Post edited 6 Jun 2023 22:10]
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I seriously doubt that he will be doing the signing, i would have thought that Watson will be doing a bit of scouting and putting his word across to the manager whenever he will be put in place 🙄 | | | |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 05:50 - Jun 7 with 654 views | Whiterockin |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 22:21 - Jun 6 by majorraglan |
I know someone who’s involved in professional sport, their contract came to an end a few weeks ago and while pre season doesn’t get underway for a while yet, that persons already signed their next contract elsewhere and is now being paid.
This could be see as dead time, but some clubs are actively recruiting and doing deals so the owners need to be moving things along - they can’t dilly dally and faff about. The Championship is different to the US, over here you get relegated over there you finish bottom and get to go again the following year. |
They have experienced relegation here and fully understand the implications. | | | |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 07:46 - Jun 7 with 603 views | jackrmee |
| An attempt to clarify the position between Swansea and Southampton on 12:22 - Jun 6 by Whiterockin |
If it was your club and your money, would you hold out for the near half a million pounds you believe you are entitled. I would. Players are on holiday, transfer window isn't open yet, what's the rush. |
Yeah I would too.
And half a mil could be 2 new players who come in on a free, for the whole year | |
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