| NHS in slow retreat 17:38 - Aug 17 with 6166 views | SullutaCreturned |
Well here is another one, a lack of staff meaning a cutting of service,
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/
Then what happens to those who attend the MIU, they will be redirected to where? They'll probably end up at Morriston A&E putting further pressure on that already hard pressed unit.
Where will the Welsh NHS get these staff from, is the Senedd giving them more money? |  | | |  |
| NHS in slow retreat on 14:19 - Aug 28 with 1434 views | Gwyn737 |
| NHS in slow retreat on 13:06 - Aug 28 by SullutaCreturned |
It's still a problem when so much money is diverted from the NHS raison d'etre.
Here's another issue, whistleblowers. They are supposed to be protected but I know a person who blew her whistle and instead of the problem she raised being addressed she was hounded out and offered a pay off as long as she signed an NDA.
Good staff are leaving because they'd rather get rid and shut them up. Lucy Letby is a very relevant example, 2 doctors who brought her up were told to apologise when she was murdering babies. |
You’re right, that’s a huge issue, Cat.
That’s both a cultural and line management issue. | | | |
| NHS in slow retreat on 14:42 - Aug 28 with 1424 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| NHS in slow retreat on 13:06 - Aug 28 by SullutaCreturned |
It's still a problem when so much money is diverted from the NHS raison d'etre.
Here's another issue, whistleblowers. They are supposed to be protected but I know a person who blew her whistle and instead of the problem she raised being addressed she was hounded out and offered a pay off as long as she signed an NDA.
Good staff are leaving because they'd rather get rid and shut them up. Lucy Letby is a very relevant example, 2 doctors who brought her up were told to apologise when she was murdering babies. |
Theres a decent report that I can't find right now that compares Healthcare with the Aviation in relation to their attitude to things going wrong.
People who identify issues in Aviation are rewarded for calling out problems, they get credit for spotting problems as it improves safety in the industry. Problems are publicised to share learning and to help identify solutions.
in Healthcare issues are covered up there is fear of blame and damaged reputations. Problems are covered up and buried. |  |
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| NHS in slow retreat on 15:05 - Aug 28 with 1413 views | controversial_jack |
Senior management don't like any fuss or hassle, as it reflects upon their bad management skills.If ever facing a disciplinary or such, suggest you will highlight the problems or bring others into it and it will soon all be forgotten, but do it before any formal hearings | | | |
| NHS in slow retreat on 13:07 - Aug 31 with 1331 views | SullutaCreturned |
| NHS in slow retreat on 15:05 - Aug 28 by controversial_jack |
Senior management don't like any fuss or hassle, as it reflects upon their bad management skills.If ever facing a disciplinary or such, suggest you will highlight the problems or bring others into it and it will soon all be forgotten, but do it before any formal hearings |
Here's a strange one. The NHS has a scheme clled early release, you can apply to leave and if approved they'll give you a years wage. You can't go back and work for the NHS for a fixed period then, not sure how long that is exactly.
So a short staffed NHS is allowing people to leave with a years salary? Sounds strange. | | | |
| NHS in slow retreat on 13:31 - Aug 31 with 1323 views | controversial_jack |
| NHS in slow retreat on 13:07 - Aug 31 by SullutaCreturned |
Here's a strange one. The NHS has a scheme clled early release, you can apply to leave and if approved they'll give you a years wage. You can't go back and work for the NHS for a fixed period then, not sure how long that is exactly.
So a short staffed NHS is allowing people to leave with a years salary? Sounds strange. |
I've not heard of that. I will ask Mrs CJ to look into it for herself. Thanks for the info | | | |
| NHS in slow retreat on 23:06 - Aug 31 with 1281 views | majorraglan |
| NHS in slow retreat on 13:07 - Aug 31 by SullutaCreturned |
Here's a strange one. The NHS has a scheme clled early release, you can apply to leave and if approved they'll give you a years wage. You can't go back and work for the NHS for a fixed period then, not sure how long that is exactly.
So a short staffed NHS is allowing people to leave with a years salary? Sounds strange. |
It’s not a VR scheme but I think it has similar characteristics and may work along those lines. I think one of the conditions is that it has to be mutually beneficial for the person and the organisation, which given the staffing issues across the NHS I couldn’t see the criteria applying. | | | |
| NHS in slow retreat on 08:31 - Sep 1 with 1249 views | SullutaCreturned |
| NHS in slow retreat on 23:06 - Aug 31 by majorraglan |
It’s not a VR scheme but I think it has similar characteristics and may work along those lines. I think one of the conditions is that it has to be mutually beneficial for the person and the organisation, which given the staffing issues across the NHS I couldn’t see the criteria applying. |
I know someone who's applied, lets see what they say. | | | |
| NHS in slow retreat on 09:18 - Sep 1 with 1239 views | felixstowe_jack |
| NHS in slow retreat on 23:06 - Aug 31 by majorraglan |
It’s not a VR scheme but I think it has similar characteristics and may work along those lines. I think one of the conditions is that it has to be mutually beneficial for the person and the organisation, which given the staffing issues across the NHS I couldn’t see the criteria applying. |
It applies to most public bodies and the civil service it is part of their terms and conditions which is in effect giving their staff a retirement bonus.
Many people use it then sign up for another company who do agency work for civil service departments and the NHS | |
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| NHS in slow retreat on 11:43 - Sep 1 with 1204 views | Whiterockin |
Aren't Betsi Cadwalader run by the Senedd in special measures and have been on and off for several years. No money for the basics.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wa |  | | |
| NHS in slow retreat on 13:08 - Sep 1 with 1166 views | SullutaCreturned |
| NHS in slow retreat on 09:18 - Sep 1 by felixstowe_jack |
It applies to most public bodies and the civil service it is part of their terms and conditions which is in effect giving their staff a retirement bonus.
Many people use it then sign up for another company who do agency work for civil service departments and the NHS |
It's not any form of retirement though. People who retire can still go back straight away and do exactly the same job though with a special title like "advisor" but under this scheme you cannot return for years.
The way forward is to apply for other jobs while applying for this. If you take a years wages and fidn another job quickly, you are laughing.
My friend doesn't think she'll get it though, a colleague in her dept applied and was turned down, more or less the same job. | | | |
| NHS in slow retreat on 14:24 - Sep 1 with 1144 views | Whiterockin |
| NHS in slow retreat on 13:08 - Sep 1 by SullutaCreturned |
It's not any form of retirement though. People who retire can still go back straight away and do exactly the same job though with a special title like "advisor" but under this scheme you cannot return for years.
The way forward is to apply for other jobs while applying for this. If you take a years wages and fidn another job quickly, you are laughing.
My friend doesn't think she'll get it though, a colleague in her dept applied and was turned down, more or less the same job. |
So if you were, say a nurse, you could not do "bank" shifts. Even working on the same ward on the same pay grade. | | | |
| NHS in slow retreat on 14:35 - Sep 1 with 1121 views | majorraglan |
| NHS in slow retreat on 14:24 - Sep 1 by Whiterockin |
So if you were, say a nurse, you could not do "bank" shifts. Even working on the same ward on the same pay grade. |
No, you can’t return to work in the NHS for a set period of time if you get VER. There’s no automatic entitlement to it and given the staffing situation across the NHS I find it hard to believe they’d sanction any applications. [Post edited 1 Sep 2023 14:39]
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| NHS in slow retreat on 14:37 - Sep 1 with 1103 views | Whiterockin |
| NHS in slow retreat on 14:35 - Sep 1 by majorraglan |
No, you can’t return to work in the NHS for a set period of time if you get VER. There’s no automatic entitlement to it and given the staffing situation across the NHS I find it hard to believe they’d sanction any applications. [Post edited 1 Sep 2023 14:39]
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Family member did after one full month.
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I'm not sure if the NHS bank shifts are classed as agency or not. But you return after a month on same pay grade often on the same ward, you just select on the app. [Post edited 1 Sep 2023 14:40]
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| NHS in slow retreat on 17:40 - Sep 1 with 1059 views | SullutaCreturned |
| NHS in slow retreat on 14:35 - Sep 1 by majorraglan |
No, you can’t return to work in the NHS for a set period of time if you get VER. There’s no automatic entitlement to it and given the staffing situation across the NHS I find it hard to believe they’d sanction any applications. [Post edited 1 Sep 2023 14:39]
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One of the bosses took retirement and two weeks later was back in her office on a fixed term contract. That is in Morriston.
That's not rumour or speculation, it's fact. I know her name, I've met her, obviously I can't post her name. | | | |
| NHS in slow retreat on 21:03 - Sep 1 with 1026 views | majorraglan |
| NHS in slow retreat on 17:40 - Sep 1 by SullutaCreturned |
One of the bosses took retirement and two weeks later was back in her office on a fixed term contract. That is in Morriston.
That's not rumour or speculation, it's fact. I know her name, I've met her, obviously I can't post her name. |
That’s not VER though. People retiring from the NHS and coming back is allowed under certain circumstances, the rules were relaxed during the pandemic and due to the skills shortage it’s still happening. I know a couple of very highly trained individuals who’ve gone back in to the NHS after retiring, they were badly missed after they left and have filled a few important holes. | | | |
| NHS in slow retreat on 16:28 - Sep 2 with 957 views | SullutaCreturned |
| NHS in slow retreat on 21:03 - Sep 1 by majorraglan |
That’s not VER though. People retiring from the NHS and coming back is allowed under certain circumstances, the rules were relaxed during the pandemic and due to the skills shortage it’s still happening. I know a couple of very highly trained individuals who’ve gone back in to the NHS after retiring, they were badly missed after they left and have filled a few important holes. |
She took retirement, started drawing her pension then went back to work. She wasn't forced to retire, forced out. It wasn't voluntary early release, it was retirement.
She's still there over 2 years later getting her pension AND her full time wage. | | | |
| NHS in slow retreat on 19:44 - Sep 4 with 899 views | trampie |
Just heard about two different people with broken legs suffered on Saturday, one Swansea Bay Health Board and one Hywel Dda Health Board, Ambulances called, the Swansea Bay one took about 12 hrs, the Hywel Dda one 2 or 3, the Swansea one said there is a 15 hour wait to be seen in Morrison there is no point in us taking you (unless you want to wait) or go yourself under your own steam in the morning (family member driving a car) the Hywel Dda one was seen relatively quickly, no idea if overall one service is better than the other or not but if you get hurt/taken ill in Swansea Bay region I'm not sure how quickly you will get seen too. |  |
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| NHS in slow retreat on 06:09 - Sep 5 with 870 views | Whiterockin |
| NHS in slow retreat on 19:44 - Sep 4 by trampie |
Just heard about two different people with broken legs suffered on Saturday, one Swansea Bay Health Board and one Hywel Dda Health Board, Ambulances called, the Swansea Bay one took about 12 hrs, the Hywel Dda one 2 or 3, the Swansea one said there is a 15 hour wait to be seen in Morrison there is no point in us taking you (unless you want to wait) or go yourself under your own steam in the morning (family member driving a car) the Hywel Dda one was seen relatively quickly, no idea if overall one service is better than the other or not but if you get hurt/taken ill in Swansea Bay region I'm not sure how quickly you will get seen too. |
And who runs the NHS in Wales? | | | |
| NHS in slow retreat on 08:44 - Sep 5 with 837 views | trampie |
| NHS in slow retreat on 06:09 - Sep 5 by Whiterockin |
And who runs the NHS in Wales? |
Where does the funding originate from ? | |
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| NHS in slow retreat on 08:50 - Sep 5 with 833 views | Whiterockin |
| NHS in slow retreat on 08:44 - Sep 5 by trampie |
Where does the funding originate from ? |
Who doesn't spend it all where it is designated? Who returns millions to Westminster because they can't control their finances properly? | | | |
| NHS in slow retreat on 09:02 - Sep 5 with 821 views | pencoedjack |
| NHS in slow retreat on 19:22 - Aug 19 by Dr_Winston |
The NHS is the fifth largest employer in the World. More than 1.5m people work for it. More than Amazon & the Indian Railways. The problem is not the lack of staff. It's shite management, as evidenced by the arse covering tossers exposed by the Lucy Letby situation.
There is a fundamental problem at the heart of UK public services, exemplified but not limited to the way the NHS is run. |
When you have the top surgeons putting forward a plan to create supercentre orthopaedic hospitals to ensure better output rejected by the Senedd you have to wonder who knows best.
I believe Prince Phillip & East Glam were put forward to ensure the waiting lists reduced on orthopaedic surgery & free up other hospitals in South Wales to concentrate on other illnesses.
English hospitals are already putting this in place but in Wales 'we do things different'.
In the meantime surgeons continue to do more private work as there are no beds available for orthopaedic patients enabling them to earn more money on top of that paid to them by the taxpayer.
You couldn't make it up. |  | | |
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