| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... 17:39 - Sep 29 with 7476 views | theloneranger |
"Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance from all but the poorest pensioners as a way of clawing back some taxpayer funds from the elderly, as he prepares to fight the next election on a pledge to keep the pension triple lock despite its spiralling costs."
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 17:42 - Sep 29 with 3686 views | felixstowe_jack |
Makes you wonder why people paying 40% income tax need a winter fuel allowance. |  |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 17:43 - Sep 29 with 3685 views | onehunglow |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 17:42 - Sep 29 by felixstowe_jack |
Makes you wonder why people paying 40% income tax need a winter fuel allowance. |
Will it just be those affected?
Pensioners paying higher rate ?
This is an election suicide plan
He’s dumber than I thought | |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 18:04 - Sep 29 with 3664 views | Whiterockin |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 17:43 - Sep 29 by onehunglow |
Will it just be those affected?
Pensioners paying higher rate ?
This is an election suicide plan
He’s dumber than I thought |
He's going to lose anyway. |  | | |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 18:10 - Sep 29 with 3647 views | Boundy |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 17:42 - Sep 29 by felixstowe_jack |
Makes you wonder why people paying 40% income tax need a winter fuel allowance. |
Makes you wonder why some people think that pensioners are on the higher rate tax band | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 18:17 - Sep 29 with 3647 views | max936 |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 18:10 - Sep 29 by Boundy |
Makes you wonder why some people think that pensioners are on the higher rate tax band |
Flexi, lives in a different World to the rest of us Boundy! |  | | |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 18:32 - Sep 29 with 3636 views | Boundy |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 18:17 - Sep 29 by max936 |
Flexi, lives in a different World to the rest of us Boundy! |
I must admit that I do enjoy reading Felix's posts , they're usually entertaining and regardless of the topic somehow manages to deflect the blame/fault onto the opposition . | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 18:34 - Sep 29 with 3639 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 18:10 - Sep 29 by Boundy |
Makes you wonder why some people think that pensioners are on the higher rate tax band |
Looks like there's about a million of them.
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 19:44 - Sep 29 with 3596 views | onehunglow |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 18:04 - Sep 29 by Whiterockin |
He's going to lose anyway. |
Looks like.
They are cowards .
We need a strong government and havent had one for many years | |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 20:15 - Sep 29 with 3554 views | Kilkennyjack |
Priorities.
Tories are not decent people. |  |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 20:30 - Sep 29 with 3541 views | Whiterockin |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 20:15 - Sep 29 by Kilkennyjack |
Priorities.
Tories are not decent people. |
OK I'll stand up to be counted. Inheritance tax is totally unfair in this day and age. Why should my next generation pay tax on what I have worked bloody hard to generate. Considering I have already paid tax on everything I have earned. | | | |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 22:51 - Sep 29 with 3477 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 20:15 - Sep 29 by Kilkennyjack |
Priorities.
Tories are not decent people. |
Neither are nasty labour or the IRA. | |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 22:53 - Sep 29 with 3476 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 20:30 - Sep 29 by Whiterockin |
OK I'll stand up to be counted. Inheritance tax is totally unfair in this day and age. Why should my next generation pay tax on what I have worked bloody hard to generate. Considering I have already paid tax on everything I have earned. |
Killy would rather live off benefits payed for by others. If people work hard and pay theirs taxes when they are living why should the government tax them again when they are dead. | |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 23:07 - Sep 29 with 3467 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 17:43 - Sep 29 by onehunglow |
Will it just be those affected?
Pensioners paying higher rate ?
This is an election suicide plan
He’s dumber than I thought |
Not sure I would believe any rumour on sky. | |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 11:31 - Sep 30 with 3404 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 22:53 - Sep 29 by felixstowe_jack |
Killy would rather live off benefits payed for by others. If people work hard and pay theirs taxes when they are living why should the government tax them again when they are dead. |
It's a bit confusing for those who argue about unfairness between generations to contemplate the pros and cons of inheritance tax. | |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 11:57 - Sep 30 with 3383 views | Gwyn737 |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 20:30 - Sep 29 by Whiterockin |
OK I'll stand up to be counted. Inheritance tax is totally unfair in this day and age. Why should my next generation pay tax on what I have worked bloody hard to generate. Considering I have already paid tax on everything I have earned. |
Because it effects a small minority of people who in the main have hit the £1,000,000 benchmark when you start to pay the tax by buying a house ages ago in an area that became desirable over time and is now worth a fortune. They’ve not really ‘done’ anything to earn it.
You can leave you’re dependents £999,999 without troubling the tax man one bit.
I also don’t buy the double tax argument. We’re double taxed on most things. That’s life.
I see that’s its emotive mind, as it’s seen as a tax on grief and that is a concern. Also the mega rich will have found away around it anyway. | | | |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 12:18 - Sep 30 with 3369 views | Dr_Winston |
The fairest tax of all is VAT.
Income Tax should be a flat tax. A personal allowance of say £20,000, then a percentage applied to all equally above that. Higher earners will still pay considerably more tax than lower earners, but at the same rate.
VAT however can be levied at different rates depending upon what's being purchased. Essential goods such as food, clothes and energy should be VAT free. Other items could attract different levels of VAT depending upon what they are. For example, you could have different rates of VAT for cars depending upon the value of the vehicle. A Ford Fiesta could be 10%. A Ferrari 40%. Private school fees a rate of 50%.
Those who spend the most money on the highest value items will pay more tax. |  |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 12:42 - Sep 30 with 3356 views | Whiterockin |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 11:57 - Sep 30 by Gwyn737 |
Because it effects a small minority of people who in the main have hit the £1,000,000 benchmark when you start to pay the tax by buying a house ages ago in an area that became desirable over time and is now worth a fortune. They’ve not really ‘done’ anything to earn it.
You can leave you’re dependents £999,999 without troubling the tax man one bit.
I also don’t buy the double tax argument. We’re double taxed on most things. That’s life.
I see that’s its emotive mind, as it’s seen as a tax on grief and that is a concern. Also the mega rich will have found away around it anyway. |
Obviously property inflation has an impact but you have to work to buy the property, often if you work harder and longer hours you can afford more. During this time you pay your taxes. If you also have business interests and sell up when you retire or ease up you also pay tax. Thow in if you have relatives with no children and you are a benefactor in their will there could possibly be double inheritance tax, even though they have also paid tax all their lives. Add onto the equation any life insurance that you have paid over many years.
Gwyn it's not always simple. Often it comes down to when you pass on and your financial standing at that time. | | | |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 12:48 - Sep 30 with 3343 views | Gwyn737 |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 12:42 - Sep 30 by Whiterockin |
Obviously property inflation has an impact but you have to work to buy the property, often if you work harder and longer hours you can afford more. During this time you pay your taxes. If you also have business interests and sell up when you retire or ease up you also pay tax. Thow in if you have relatives with no children and you are a benefactor in their will there could possibly be double inheritance tax, even though they have also paid tax all their lives. Add onto the equation any life insurance that you have paid over many years.
Gwyn it's not always simple. Often it comes down to when you pass on and your financial standing at that time. |
I’m pretty ambivalent about it to be honest mate, possible because I don’t know of anyone who will be affected.
I do see a bit of unfairness though in that the person who bought their house in say Swansea in 1980, is massively disadvantaged to the person who bought theirs in Tunbridge Wells at the same time.
They both would have worked equally hard yet one will have generated a fortune more by doing nothing more. | | | |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 12:55 - Sep 30 with 3330 views | Whiterockin |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 12:48 - Sep 30 by Gwyn737 |
I’m pretty ambivalent about it to be honest mate, possible because I don’t know of anyone who will be affected.
I do see a bit of unfairness though in that the person who bought their house in say Swansea in 1980, is massively disadvantaged to the person who bought theirs in Tunbridge Wells at the same time.
They both would have worked equally hard yet one will have generated a fortune more by doing nothing more. |
Hopefully it will become a factor in you life as time goes on.  | | | |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 13:08 - Sep 30 with 3309 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 12:48 - Sep 30 by Gwyn737 |
I’m pretty ambivalent about it to be honest mate, possible because I don’t know of anyone who will be affected.
I do see a bit of unfairness though in that the person who bought their house in say Swansea in 1980, is massively disadvantaged to the person who bought theirs in Tunbridge Wells at the same time.
They both would have worked equally hard yet one will have generated a fortune more by doing nothing more. |
It's their children and grandchildren who lose out. | |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 13:13 - Sep 30 with 3288 views | Whiterockin |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 13:08 - Sep 30 by JACKMANANDBOY |
It's their children and grandchildren who lose out. |
One could always sit on their backside, live off the state all their life and not worry about inheritance tax. | | | |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 13:27 - Sep 30 with 3264 views | onehunglow |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 20:30 - Sep 29 by Whiterockin |
OK I'll stand up to be counted. Inheritance tax is totally unfair in this day and age. Why should my next generation pay tax on what I have worked bloody hard to generate. Considering I have already paid tax on everything I have earned. |
Your paying tax ensures millions can let the State pay for everything in their rancid lives . | |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 13:35 - Sep 30 with 3246 views | Gwyn737 |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 12:55 - Sep 30 by Whiterockin |
Hopefully it will become a factor in you life as time goes on. |
You never know but it would need something exceptional to happen.
I manages to get in the housing ladder in 2002 and caught the last real property rise but nothing like has happened previously.
I’m pretty comfortable thankfully and as long as I don’t get myself sacked I’ll have a decent retirement.
I wont be anywhere near the inheritance tax threshold though. | | | |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 13:41 - Sep 30 with 3243 views | builthjack |
He doesn’t give a damn about the elderly who survive week to week, and will have to go through another winter hungry and cold. Not a damn. |  |
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| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 13:48 - Sep 30 with 3220 views | raynor94 |
| Rishi Sunak is considering removing the winter fuel allowance ... on 13:41 - Sep 30 by builthjack |
He doesn’t give a damn about the elderly who survive week to week, and will have to go through another winter hungry and cold. Not a damn. |
It should be means tested, what's the point in giving it to people who clearly don't need it |  |
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