| The Drakeford report on 23:04 - Nov 29 with 1398 views | Scotia |
| The Drakeford report on 20:08 - Nov 29 by Kilkennyjack |
Thankfully our grandfathers settled things with the right wing in 1945.
Nobody voted for Sunak or that idiot Truss.
The Senedd is not a similar situation at all.
We have no Moggs, Johnsons, or Bravermans. |
You're right we don't have Mogg's, Johnson's or Braverman's in the Senedd but we need people like them if we're to have an accountable parliament. Well, apart from Johnson.
I don't like them and I wouldn't vote for them. But I don't like and won't vote for Drakeford's Labour or Plaid. Labour and Plaid are nearly identical, the lib Dems have disappeared and Wales hasn't got the bottle to vote for change.
People think we're big and clever enough to be independent? We can't even get what we've got right.
Welsh Labour needs a shift to the centre and to become clearly different to Plaid. |  | |  |
| The Drakeford report on 23:22 - Nov 29 with 1394 views | Luther27 |
| The Drakeford report on 23:04 - Nov 29 by Scotia |
You're right we don't have Mogg's, Johnson's or Braverman's in the Senedd but we need people like them if we're to have an accountable parliament. Well, apart from Johnson.
I don't like them and I wouldn't vote for them. But I don't like and won't vote for Drakeford's Labour or Plaid. Labour and Plaid are nearly identical, the lib Dems have disappeared and Wales hasn't got the bottle to vote for change.
People think we're big and clever enough to be independent? We can't even get what we've got right.
Welsh Labour needs a shift to the centre and to become clearly different to Plaid. |
Ask Port Talbot what they think of Kinnock and his party. Soon there will be no so called working men’s vote as there will be none.
I really do believe as there will be a swing to the right in the next election. I genuinely cannot see how any Labour, Plaid or Liberal candidate can stand on my doorstep and tell me they’ve done a great job for my country after wasting millions of my money on fantasy projects that deliver hee haw to the voters. | | | |
| The Drakeford report on 08:20 - Nov 30 with 1342 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| The Drakeford report on 23:04 - Nov 29 by Scotia |
You're right we don't have Mogg's, Johnson's or Braverman's in the Senedd but we need people like them if we're to have an accountable parliament. Well, apart from Johnson.
I don't like them and I wouldn't vote for them. But I don't like and won't vote for Drakeford's Labour or Plaid. Labour and Plaid are nearly identical, the lib Dems have disappeared and Wales hasn't got the bottle to vote for change.
People think we're big and clever enough to be independent? We can't even get what we've got right.
Welsh Labour needs a shift to the centre and to become clearly different to Plaid. |
Every parliament needs a strong opposition that are ready to step in and govern at a moments notice. We don’t have that in London, Cardiff or Edinburgh. They are all pathetically weak. |  |
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| The Drakeford report on 09:29 - Nov 30 with 1325 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The Drakeford report on 08:20 - Nov 30 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Every parliament needs a strong opposition that are ready to step in and govern at a moments notice. We don’t have that in London, Cardiff or Edinburgh. They are all pathetically weak. |
Even worse in the EU where are the decisions are made by the appointed EU commissioners who are not elected or accountable to voters and the EU "Parliament " just rubber stamps their proposals. | |
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| The Drakeford report on 11:03 - Nov 30 with 1303 views | controversial_jack |
| The Drakeford report on 09:29 - Nov 30 by felixstowe_jack |
Even worse in the EU where are the decisions are made by the appointed EU commissioners who are not elected or accountable to voters and the EU "Parliament " just rubber stamps their proposals. |
Of course they are elected.They are elected in their respective countries and then appointed, just like our PM or cabinet is. Do you expect a vote in the French or Belgian elections?There's no other way it can be done | | | |
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| The Drakeford report on 12:21 - Nov 30 with 1277 views | Wingstandwood |
| The Drakeford report on 11:39 - Nov 30 by Boundy |
Nothing to do with Brexit or Johnson , this is to do with the mismanagement of Welsh taxpayers money being spent on vanity projects and ignoring the important issues in Wales , but you knew that but you can't help yourself .
Now what about debating the money spent on Cardiff Airport.
Morriston Hospital and the Heath declaring an emergency.
The M4 debacle
The millions underspend then returned to the Treasury
Wales having the highest business tax in the UK
and I could give you more to ponder but this is a start |
I have come across quite a few A+E staff over the last few years and have a very close relative who was once right in the midst of it all having run two clinics i.e. Singleton/Morriston.
And the fact is Brexit, Johnson, the Tories are never brought up into the conversation. Why should they? A quarter of a cetury of devolved government and all that!!!! It's like blaming the WRAF for Operation Motorman !!!!
But hey, they at Westminster are useful to backward yokels, because they deflect blame and responsibilty.
I have during recent times taken a look at YesCymru sites and there is zero anger aimed at those responsible for the Welsh NHS crisis, lack of infrastructure, dire state of economy, and appaling waste on white elephants, where for example an airport scanner will come way before any hospital scanner. no matter what
Feel free to scroll down! Notice the lack of concern at the Cardiff Bay vermin.
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| The Drakeford report on 12:56 - Nov 30 with 1252 views | Whiterockin |
| The Drakeford report on 12:21 - Nov 30 by Wingstandwood |
I have come across quite a few A+E staff over the last few years and have a very close relative who was once right in the midst of it all having run two clinics i.e. Singleton/Morriston.
And the fact is Brexit, Johnson, the Tories are never brought up into the conversation. Why should they? A quarter of a cetury of devolved government and all that!!!! It's like blaming the WRAF for Operation Motorman !!!!
But hey, they at Westminster are useful to backward yokels, because they deflect blame and responsibilty.
I have during recent times taken a look at YesCymru sites and there is zero anger aimed at those responsible for the Welsh NHS crisis, lack of infrastructure, dire state of economy, and appaling waste on white elephants, where for example an airport scanner will come way before any hospital scanner. no matter what
Feel free to scroll down! Notice the lack of concern at the Cardiff Bay vermin.
https://twitter.com/YesCymru?r |
A case of let's not face facts just try to deflect attention, at least it makes us feel better. Does it achieve anything, no and their lies the problem, nobody faces up to the issues and the reasons Wales is failing behind and nothing changes. |  | | |
| The Drakeford report on 13:30 - Nov 30 with 1236 views | onehunglow |
| The Drakeford report on 12:21 - Nov 30 by Wingstandwood |
I have come across quite a few A+E staff over the last few years and have a very close relative who was once right in the midst of it all having run two clinics i.e. Singleton/Morriston.
And the fact is Brexit, Johnson, the Tories are never brought up into the conversation. Why should they? A quarter of a cetury of devolved government and all that!!!! It's like blaming the WRAF for Operation Motorman !!!!
But hey, they at Westminster are useful to backward yokels, because they deflect blame and responsibilty.
I have during recent times taken a look at YesCymru sites and there is zero anger aimed at those responsible for the Welsh NHS crisis, lack of infrastructure, dire state of economy, and appaling waste on white elephants, where for example an airport scanner will come way before any hospital scanner. no matter what
Feel free to scroll down! Notice the lack of concern at the Cardiff Bay vermin.
https://twitter.com/YesCymru?r |
Now that really is a post of the year | |
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| The Drakeford report on 14:31 - Nov 30 with 1203 views | Wingstandwood |
| The Drakeford report on 13:30 - Nov 30 by onehunglow |
Now that really is a post of the year |
When I'm in the mood and annoyed enough? I've got sh1t loads of stuff that is considered to be 'inside information' that'll educate the yokels who either condone the Welsh Government monstrosity, or deliberately ignore the disgrace by deflecting blame entirely onto Westminster, England, "the U.K" and other blameless sources/events!
I especially love the idiot or two on here who wants full independence, but for some uttely bizarre explanation (read it on here myself!) still forever expects English NHS to provide services to Welsh patients living in Wales.
These types have a childlike dream-world naivity, thinking that a break-up of U.K NHS will have no impact for Welsh patients and (read it myself!) are deluded to the extent to think England's NHS is dependant on Welsh patients to function, because it needs Welsh money!!!!
Neither do they think full independance will affect recruitment and staff retention.
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| The Drakeford report on 17:17 - Nov 30 with 1140 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The Drakeford report on 11:03 - Nov 30 by controversial_jack |
Of course they are elected.They are elected in their respective countries and then appointed, just like our PM or cabinet is. Do you expect a vote in the French or Belgian elections?There's no other way it can be done |
Membr countries nominate people whom the EU bigwigs then choose from to be commissioners.
Now Presidents, who has ever voted for an EU president? Only other EU politicians and that is not democracy, y'know "demos" of the people. | | | |
| The Drakeford report on 18:05 - Nov 30 with 1104 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The Drakeford report on 11:03 - Nov 30 by controversial_jack |
Of course they are elected.They are elected in their respective countries and then appointed, just like our PM or cabinet is. Do you expect a vote in the French or Belgian elections?There's no other way it can be done |
Wrong none of the EU commissioners are ever elected. They are nominated by the government in each member country.
They are not voted for by any voters in that country. They are often failed MPs . Neil Kinnock was appointed an EU commissioner in 1995, Peter Mandelson was appointed an EU commissioners following his resignation as an MP in 2004 following his mortgage problem.
I think there have been appropriately 17 UK appointment commissioners most of them retired or failed politicians plus a few civil servants. | |
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| The Drakeford report on 18:44 - Nov 30 with 1092 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The Drakeford report on 18:05 - Nov 30 by felixstowe_jack |
Wrong none of the EU commissioners are ever elected. They are nominated by the government in each member country.
They are not voted for by any voters in that country. They are often failed MPs . Neil Kinnock was appointed an EU commissioner in 1995, Peter Mandelson was appointed an EU commissioners following his resignation as an MP in 2004 following his mortgage problem.
I think there have been appropriately 17 UK appointment commissioners most of them retired or failed politicians plus a few civil servants. |
Who voted for Lord Frost ? |  |
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| The Drakeford report on 18:46 - Nov 30 with 1090 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The Drakeford report on 14:31 - Nov 30 by Wingstandwood |
When I'm in the mood and annoyed enough? I've got sh1t loads of stuff that is considered to be 'inside information' that'll educate the yokels who either condone the Welsh Government monstrosity, or deliberately ignore the disgrace by deflecting blame entirely onto Westminster, England, "the U.K" and other blameless sources/events!
I especially love the idiot or two on here who wants full independence, but for some uttely bizarre explanation (read it on here myself!) still forever expects English NHS to provide services to Welsh patients living in Wales.
These types have a childlike dream-world naivity, thinking that a break-up of U.K NHS will have no impact for Welsh patients and (read it myself!) are deluded to the extent to think England's NHS is dependant on Welsh patients to function, because it needs Welsh money!!!!
Neither do they think full independance will affect recruitment and staff retention.
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In October 2023, the uk government borrowed £14.9bn, which was the second highest borrowing figure for October since monthly records began in 1993. The total amount the uk government owes is called the national debt. It is currently about £2.6 trillion.
Wales and Scotland cannot afford to stay. | |
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| The Drakeford report on 19:19 - Nov 30 with 1084 views | Togg |
| The Drakeford report on 18:46 - Nov 30 by Kilkennyjack |
In October 2023, the uk government borrowed £14.9bn, which was the second highest borrowing figure for October since monthly records began in 1993. The total amount the uk government owes is called the national debt. It is currently about £2.6 trillion.
Wales and Scotland cannot afford to stay. |
Wales and Scotland part of the UK so part of the debt. How do you think the Covid hiatus was paid for? | | | |
| The Drakeford report on 19:24 - Nov 30 with 1080 views | BarrySwan |
| The Drakeford report on 11:03 - Nov 30 by controversial_jack |
Of course they are elected.They are elected in their respective countries and then appointed, just like our PM or cabinet is. Do you expect a vote in the French or Belgian elections?There's no other way it can be done |
So who was that nice Mr Kinnock elected by when he became an EU Commissioner then? [Post edited 30 Nov 2023 19:32]
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| The Drakeford report on 21:02 - Nov 30 with 1049 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The Drakeford report on 19:19 - Nov 30 by Togg |
Wales and Scotland part of the UK so part of the debt. How do you think the Covid hiatus was paid for? |
Not true.
Russia tried this with the Baltic States.
A debt taken out in your name by someone else, is not the same as a debt you have taken out.
For an indy wales to take on this debt then tbe uk would have prove that the people of wales gave their specific consent.
Consent is your freely given agreement to what is proposed, based on a full understanding of what is to happen.
England voting old debt onto indy wales will simply not stand. | |
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| The Drakeford report on 21:04 - Nov 30 with 1046 views | Boundy |
| The Drakeford report on 18:44 - Nov 30 by Kilkennyjack |
Who voted for Lord Frost ? |
Who voted for Carwen Jones then the buffoon Drakeford and his forthcoming successor? | |
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| The Drakeford report on 21:19 - Nov 30 with 1034 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The Drakeford report on 21:04 - Nov 30 by Boundy |
Who voted for Carwen Jones then the buffoon Drakeford and his forthcoming successor? |
I am not the one slagging the EU off for being undemocratic ….when the uk has a king, the unelected house of lords, an unelected Lord as Foreign Secretary, and an unelected Lord negotiating the terrible Brexit deal (ie Frosty the No man).
Felix is not well mun.
The UK is now a joke country stuck in an imaginary past that never really was.
Gammon up lads …. 🇬🇧…. [Post edited 30 Nov 2023 21:19]
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| The Drakeford report on 21:37 - Nov 30 with 1025 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| The Drakeford report on 21:19 - Nov 30 by Kilkennyjack |
I am not the one slagging the EU off for being undemocratic ….when the uk has a king, the unelected house of lords, an unelected Lord as Foreign Secretary, and an unelected Lord negotiating the terrible Brexit deal (ie Frosty the No man).
Felix is not well mun.
The UK is now a joke country stuck in an imaginary past that never really was.
Gammon up lads …. 🇬🇧…. [Post edited 30 Nov 2023 21:19]
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Yes the EU countries don’t have any monarchies, apart from Spain, Belgium, Holland, Denmark, Sweden and all the other numerous monarchies/principalities/grand duchies in the Schengen area. Oh and the Pope.
It’s a good thing the EU countries have dispensed with such medieval nonsense. | |
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| The Drakeford report on 22:35 - Nov 30 with 987 views | majorraglan |
| The Drakeford report on 08:13 - Nov 30 by felixstowe_jack |
I do wish you would concentrate on THE DRAKEFORD REPORT which is the subject of the post instead of diverting everything onto your hatred of UK.
Just tell us anything Drakeford has done well since he has been in power.
Better NHS - no
Shorter NHS queues - no
Better education system - no
Less poverty - no
Less traffic congestion- no
Better airport connectivity - no
Tfw Better - no |
I’d say the situation here is reflected across the U.K. | | | |
| The Drakeford report on 16:04 - Dec 1 with 918 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The Drakeford report on 21:02 - Nov 30 by Kilkennyjack |
Not true.
Russia tried this with the Baltic States.
A debt taken out in your name by someone else, is not the same as a debt you have taken out.
For an indy wales to take on this debt then tbe uk would have prove that the people of wales gave their specific consent.
Consent is your freely given agreement to what is proposed, based on a full understanding of what is to happen.
England voting old debt onto indy wales will simply not stand. |
Strange, I have never seen or heard about the Senedd refusing money from Westminster. In fact Drakeford is always saying we should have more. In the past you yourself have said we are underfunded by Westminster. Sounds very much like demandingthat Westminster borrows more to give us more.
Do mae your mind up Kilky. Do you want more money for Wales or none at all? | | | |
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