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The end of Welsh pubs 13:37 - Dec 19 with 5852 viewspencoedjack

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The end of Welsh pubs on 22:26 - Dec 19 with 1296 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

The end of Welsh pubs on 17:12 - Dec 19 by Wingstandwood

We are witnessing a blatant strategy in real time to destroy Wales so that it'll forever remain a poverty sticken economic wasteland and Labour stronghold, because it's an obvious case of "keep em poor, keep em voting for us".

The refusal to build roads adds to all that. Nobody could have predicted what we are seeing now when voting for or against devolution all those years back. It's surreal to think that a government is deliberately (not by incompetence but by choice) destroying a country from within.

Could you imagine another decade of this!


Marxism in action, eliminate the middle classes, throw crumbs to the workers.

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The end of Welsh pubs on 22:57 - Dec 19 with 1276 viewsBoundy

The end of Welsh pubs on 20:39 - Dec 19 by builthjack

Um, where does the Welsh budget come from?
Ah yes, Westminster. Jeez.


You must believe that Wales doesn't create its own GDP and with it no local taxation exists ?

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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The end of Welsh pubs on 00:40 - Dec 20 with 1247 viewsRobbie

Last time I ventured into my local pub was before the covid issue , they had Sky to watch the football , something I have not got . no big deal for me a beer and sport on the tele .

Lock Down , Social Distancing rules and regs then followed , I did not socialise any more .
Have not bothered to return to them haunts since then .

Now boozers in my area are closing down big time , converted into flats and the like .

Agree , the night out in the local for a pint , chat with a stranger have gone sadly .

Smoking bans , £5 a pint in places , added to the problem of having to be wary of others .
Are they stoned , high , nasty in drink after a few too many or steriod gym freaks .

Unfortunate my locals are closing down , staff losses and kitchen workers will be difficult .
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The end of Welsh pubs on 21:16 - Dec 21 with 1087 viewsKilkennyjack

The end of Welsh pubs on 22:57 - Dec 19 by Boundy

You must believe that Wales doesn't create its own GDP and with it no local taxation exists ?


The uk govt numbers distort the truth.

For example, all Tesco economic activity in Wales is counted as English as their HQ is in England.
Thats £3 billion btw.

Mutiply that by all the other businesses that operate in Wales but like Tesco have hq’s in England.

There has been a near economic disaster in wales since the heavy industries died, but its more complex thsn the headline numbers on both sides of the debate.

Annibyniaeth.

Beware of the Risen People

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The end of Welsh pubs on 22:00 - Dec 21 with 1062 viewsbuilthjack

The end of Welsh pubs on 21:29 - Dec 19 by Flashberryjack

The thread is about Wales, we've had enough threads on how shyte Westminster is.


Yes. £30 billion in one swoop. Wow.

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The end of Welsh pubs on 07:31 - Dec 22 with 1005 viewsfelixstowe_jack

The end of Welsh pubs on 22:00 - Dec 21 by builthjack

Yes. £30 billion in one swoop. Wow.


Only you have been told the £30 billion was a myth invented by the SNP.

The £30 billion was the full cost of the tax cuts over a full financial year. As none of the tax cuts ever happened cost was zero.

Do you still believe in Father Christmas 🎅

More like scrooge Drakeford in Wales

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The end of Welsh pubs on 08:33 - Dec 22 with 986 viewsmajorraglan

The end of Welsh pubs on 07:31 - Dec 22 by felixstowe_jack

Only you have been told the £30 billion was a myth invented by the SNP.

The £30 billion was the full cost of the tax cuts over a full financial year. As none of the tax cuts ever happened cost was zero.

Do you still believe in Father Christmas 🎅

More like scrooge Drakeford in Wales


Truss was a disaster, while the claims of £30bn are wide of the mark as Hunt and Sunak overturned her policies, we are paying more for her disastrous reign in interest payments. Interest rates have gone up across the world, but ours have gone up higher and faster and have the so called “Moron factor” premium attached to them on account of Truss. She’s still costing people money!
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The end of Welsh pubs on 08:34 - Dec 22 with 985 viewsKilkennyjack

The end of Welsh pubs on 07:31 - Dec 22 by felixstowe_jack

Only you have been told the £30 billion was a myth invented by the SNP.

The £30 billion was the full cost of the tax cuts over a full financial year. As none of the tax cuts ever happened cost was zero.

Do you still believe in Father Christmas 🎅

More like scrooge Drakeford in Wales


Truss lost her job, are you suggesting it was a big success ?

It was another london disaster following the covid disaster following the brexit disaster.
Following the illegal wars and huge national debt.

And still you chirp on …. Amazing …

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The end of Welsh pubs on 08:48 - Dec 22 with 981 viewsBoundy

The end of Welsh pubs on 21:16 - Dec 21 by Kilkennyjack

The uk govt numbers distort the truth.

For example, all Tesco economic activity in Wales is counted as English as their HQ is in England.
Thats £3 billion btw.

Mutiply that by all the other businesses that operate in Wales but like Tesco have hq’s in England.

There has been a near economic disaster in wales since the heavy industries died, but its more complex thsn the headline numbers on both sides of the debate.

Annibyniaeth.


Tesco is a multinational company , a business which has outlets in many parts of the world and still has its headquarters in London so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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The end of Welsh pubs on 09:27 - Dec 22 with 967 viewsJohnw102

The end of Welsh pubs on 16:21 - Dec 19 by Treforys_Jack

But we get free prescriptions mun !!! Man is a t**t.


But you have to get a doctor's appointment first!!

Never knew getting old would happen so quick!

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The end of Welsh pubs on 09:39 - Dec 22 with 962 viewslifelong

Third world country, Welshies speaking Welsh, Welsh people flocking over the border, horrible Welsh road signs, 20mph, all the pubs closing,tourism tax, no more tourists, motorway 50mph for miles.

Bloody hell, let’s all have a miserable Christmas.
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The end of Welsh pubs on 09:50 - Dec 22 with 957 viewsonehunglow

The end of Welsh pubs on 09:39 - Dec 22 by lifelong

Third world country, Welshies speaking Welsh, Welsh people flocking over the border, horrible Welsh road signs, 20mph, all the pubs closing,tourism tax, no more tourists, motorway 50mph for miles.

Bloody hell, let’s all have a miserable Christmas.


Bugger it.
Merry Christmas Rog.
Hope we will see a few more yet.
We re visiting Hull today and the historical trail.

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The end of Welsh pubs on 09:59 - Dec 22 with 952 viewslifelong

The end of Welsh pubs on 09:50 - Dec 22 by onehunglow

Bugger it.
Merry Christmas Rog.
Hope we will see a few more yet.
We re visiting Hull today and the historical trail.


No pubs closing on the Wirral and the rest of Merseyside old bean?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c
Plus many more.
Loads of pubs closing all over the UK.
Happy Christmas.
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The end of Welsh pubs on 10:04 - Dec 22 with 947 viewslifelong

Here’s some for Felixstowe.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c
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The end of Welsh pubs on 10:08 - Dec 22 with 942 viewsonehunglow

The end of Welsh pubs on 09:59 - Dec 22 by lifelong

No pubs closing on the Wirral and the rest of Merseyside old bean?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c
Plus many more.
Loads of pubs closing all over the UK.
Happy Christmas.


Loads closed in Birkenhead but there again I’d never venture there to “ drink” . Too depressing and tricky .
West Wirral is doing ok however and when when restaurant / bar closes,somebody reopens it.
I don’t really go to Liverpool apart from Gigs and exhibitions .
Population of Wirral is over 300,000 so there’s plenty of life here as well as open country .

I’m here until I die !
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The end of Welsh pubs on 15:21 - Dec 22 with 869 viewsSullutaCreturned

The end of Welsh pubs on 22:25 - Dec 19 by Whiterockin

Whenever a poster can't counter argue and they go off topic and bring in Westminster, you then know that you won and have proved your point beyond any possible sensible reply.


100%

If they could only defend the Senedd with reasonable, well thought out debate, but they can't.

There's silly whataboutery and deflection and nothing that defends what the Senedd is doing.
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The end of Welsh pubs on 15:38 - Dec 22 with 854 viewsKilkennyjack

The end of Welsh pubs on 15:21 - Dec 22 by SullutaCreturned

100%

If they could only defend the Senedd with reasonable, well thought out debate, but they can't.

There's silly whataboutery and deflection and nothing that defends what the Senedd is doing.


The scale of mismanagement at Westmonster dwarfs the scale of mismanagement in our Senedd.
Thats why its relevent.

Critising the Senedd but being silent on Westmonster diminshes your posts - and reveals an agenda.

Democracy in Wales is not perfect, of course, but its ours to do with what we want.
Its a young democracy and needs less hostility from London’s muscular unionism Brexit cabal.

Beware of the Risen People

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The end of Welsh pubs on 08:50 - Dec 23 with 778 viewsfelixstowe_jack

The end of Welsh pubs on 15:38 - Dec 22 by Kilkennyjack

The scale of mismanagement at Westmonster dwarfs the scale of mismanagement in our Senedd.
Thats why its relevent.

Critising the Senedd but being silent on Westmonster diminshes your posts - and reveals an agenda.

Democracy in Wales is not perfect, of course, but its ours to do with what we want.
Its a young democracy and needs less hostility from London’s muscular unionism Brexit cabal.


So you think Drakeford killing pubs is good for Wales?
Please answer this year.

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The end of Welsh pubs on 10:41 - Dec 23 with 738 viewscontroversial_jack

The end of Welsh pubs on 08:50 - Dec 23 by felixstowe_jack

So you think Drakeford killing pubs is good for Wales?
Please answer this year.


What's more important to you, putting up the price of a Pint by a few pence, or funding frontline services in the NHS?
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The end of Welsh pubs on 10:52 - Dec 23 with 731 viewsraynor94

The end of Welsh pubs on 20:39 - Dec 19 by builthjack

Um, where does the Welsh budget come from?
Ah yes, Westminster. Jeez.


And it's a record amount, surely you can see this assembly has taken Wales back years.

They even sent back £160 million they hadn't spent!

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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The end of Welsh pubs on 12:54 - Dec 23 with 704 viewscontroversial_jack

The end of Welsh pubs on 10:52 - Dec 23 by raynor94

And it's a record amount, surely you can see this assembly has taken Wales back years.

They even sent back £160 million they hadn't spent!


How much has Westminster spunked away on Rwanda, PPE high speed trains etc?
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The end of Welsh pubs on 15:29 - Dec 23 with 669 viewsKilkennyjack

The end of Welsh pubs on 10:52 - Dec 23 by raynor94

And it's a record amount, surely you can see this assembly has taken Wales back years.

They even sent back £160 million they hadn't spent!


Prime Minister Rishi Sunak was under pressure Friday to explain why Britain has paid Rwanda 240 million pounds ($300 million) as part of a blocked asylum plan, without a single person being sent to the East African country.

Welsh Government returned £160m
Rwanda has cost the uk £240m for nothing.

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The end of Welsh pubs on 15:33 - Dec 23 with 667 viewscontroversial_jack

The end of Welsh pubs on 15:29 - Dec 23 by Kilkennyjack

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak was under pressure Friday to explain why Britain has paid Rwanda 240 million pounds ($300 million) as part of a blocked asylum plan, without a single person being sent to the East African country.

Welsh Government returned £160m
Rwanda has cost the uk £240m for nothing.


Good point, Wales is saving the country and taxpayers money, and Westminster is wasting it, yet we are cast as the bad guys.
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The end of Welsh pubs on 18:44 - Dec 23 with 626 viewsonehunglow

The irony being Welsh non conformity hated public houses seeing them as dens of iniquity.
Many folk would have wanted them all closed down.
Welsh speaking areas the most vociferous in this
Anybody out there alive

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The end of Welsh pubs on 11:58 - Dec 24 with 554 viewsSullutaCreturned

The end of Welsh pubs on 21:29 - Dec 19 by Flashberryjack

The thread is about Wales, we've had enough threads on how shyte Westminster is.


And on those Westminster threads how many of us say, ah, but the Senedd is worse? because we stick to topic.

Mow pubs, nt just Welsh pubs, they are dying out. Strangely though the alcohol problem is still there as people just stock up at the supermarket. Smoking was hit hard, no smoking indoors, no adverts, price rise after price rise but besides the price rises they haven't discouraged alcohol whch causes more problems than smoking.
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