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It's sickening... 19:44 - Mar 23 with 5435 viewsSullutaCreturned

...no, it really is, ovr one fifth of th UK workforce are not looking for work!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68639144
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It's sickening... on 07:30 - Mar 25 with 986 viewsjackrmee

It's sickening... on 19:47 - Mar 24 by Gwyn737

I think that last paragraph is really important.

We’ve seen that cutting benefits doesn’t really work, we should be trying making sure working pays by making sure the wages are better.


Exactly

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It's sickening... on 08:42 - Mar 25 with 948 viewsBoundy

It's sickening... on 07:09 - Mar 25 by jackrmee

You can’t just refuse to work.
If you do, they stop your universal credit.

And benefits isn’t all they cracked up to be.
If you aren’t on the sick, you could be on £200 a month.

It takes a long time to get on the sick part of universal credit, and not easy..
As for PIP…good luck with that.
My mate has one arm, cancer and some sort of painkilling electrical box thing connected to his brain, yet he got refused PIP and had to go to tribunal, which he said was such hard work he almost gave up.


AS you say PIP is possibly the hardest benefit to obtain, the odds are stacked against you due to the lack of support when completing the documentation and I would imagine someone who lives on their own with no support network is really up against it

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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It's sickening... on 08:45 - Mar 25 with 948 viewsTreforys_Jack

It's sickening... on 19:47 - Mar 24 by Gwyn737

I think that last paragraph is really important.

We’ve seen that cutting benefits doesn’t really work, we should be trying making sure working pays by making sure the wages are better.


Increase wages, then prices on everyday goods and services increase, its a catch 22 situation. I think a contributing factor is definitely people's levels of expectancy and entitlement.
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It's sickening... on 09:35 - Mar 25 with 925 viewscontroversial_jack

It's sickening... on 08:45 - Mar 25 by Treforys_Jack

Increase wages, then prices on everyday goods and services increase, its a catch 22 situation. I think a contributing factor is definitely people's levels of expectancy and entitlement.


Wages have lagged behind inflation for a few years now.It's not ages that id fueling inflation , it's other factors, such as high energy costs;' high accommodation, high consumer prices etc
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It's sickening... on 09:49 - Mar 25 with 911 viewsTreforys_Jack

It's sickening... on 09:35 - Mar 25 by controversial_jack

Wages have lagged behind inflation for a few years now.It's not ages that id fueling inflation , it's other factors, such as high energy costs;' high accommodation, high consumer prices etc


Fair point
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It's sickening... on 20:16 - Mar 25 with 832 viewsSullutaCreturned

It's sickening... on 09:35 - Mar 25 by controversial_jack

Wages have lagged behind inflation for a few years now.It's not ages that id fueling inflation , it's other factors, such as high energy costs;' high accommodation, high consumer prices etc


The governments green taxes on fuel have also pushed inflation. As has the Saudi's and OPEC cutting back.

High consumer prices are a result of inflation, not a cause. Food has risen astronomically and despite inflation easing, the cost of lovong is still very high.

The government can get inflation down to it's 2% target but unless food prices come back down too, what does it matter. If the corporations keep prices at their current levels out of greed, nothing will change.
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It's sickening... on 10:17 - Mar 26 with 737 viewscontroversial_jack

It's sickening... on 20:16 - Mar 25 by SullutaCreturned

The governments green taxes on fuel have also pushed inflation. As has the Saudi's and OPEC cutting back.

High consumer prices are a result of inflation, not a cause. Food has risen astronomically and despite inflation easing, the cost of lovong is still very high.

The government can get inflation down to it's 2% target but unless food prices come back down too, what does it matter. If the corporations keep prices at their current levels out of greed, nothing will change.


i'm not so sure of that. Inflation is caused by too much money circulating in the economy - an inflated money supply, hence the term.High consumer prices as well as energy would force consumers to pay the high prices and therefore put more money into the economy.

If consumers stop spending, then prices will drop. Energy prices are another matter
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It's sickening... on 10:29 - Mar 26 with 736 viewsDr_Winston

It's sickening... on 20:45 - Mar 23 by Boundy

and I'm guessing a lot with mental health issues, caused by the interest rate rises , the cost of living "crisis" covid etc, all of which must have had/have an impact on peoples mental well being. This all of which was not the fault of the citizens affected , it never is .


Most of those things can be blamed on one that you mentioned. Covid, and the measures taken by Governments worldwide to deal with it. The rest can be blamed on Putin's war in Ukraine, or rather the headlong rush by stupid European Goverments, Germany especially, to make themselves reliant on cheap Siberian energy and thus hopelessly exposed when despots do despot things.
[Post edited 26 Mar 10:31]

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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It's sickening... on 11:58 - Mar 26 with 711 viewscontroversial_jack

It's sickening... on 10:29 - Mar 26 by Dr_Winston

Most of those things can be blamed on one that you mentioned. Covid, and the measures taken by Governments worldwide to deal with it. The rest can be blamed on Putin's war in Ukraine, or rather the headlong rush by stupid European Goverments, Germany especially, to make themselves reliant on cheap Siberian energy and thus hopelessly exposed when despots do despot things.
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Having cheaper gas would mean cheaper prices for the consumers and not the expensive options of expensive imported LNG from the US and Qatar as we have done.Not forgetting the US putting Nord 2 stream out of action with the loss of 800 million tons of gas
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It's sickening... on 12:09 - Mar 26 with 706 viewsmajorraglan

It's sickening... on 11:58 - Mar 26 by controversial_jack

Having cheaper gas would mean cheaper prices for the consumers and not the expensive options of expensive imported LNG from the US and Qatar as we have done.Not forgetting the US putting Nord 2 stream out of action with the loss of 800 million tons of gas


There’s no proof the US put Nord stream 2 out of action.

We need more investment in off shore wind, solar etc and we also need to reopen to Rough Field to have the capability of storing a lot more gas which can then be used when we haven’t got renewables etc.

New houses are well insulated and they should all be fitted with solar when built, that would reduce demand and improve efficiency.
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It's sickening... on 12:27 - Mar 26 with 703 viewsDr_Winston

It's sickening... on 12:09 - Mar 26 by majorraglan

There’s no proof the US put Nord stream 2 out of action.

We need more investment in off shore wind, solar etc and we also need to reopen to Rough Field to have the capability of storing a lot more gas which can then be used when we haven’t got renewables etc.

New houses are well insulated and they should all be fitted with solar when built, that would reduce demand and improve efficiency.


It is quite bonkers that new properties can still be built without solar panels. Houses, industrial units or retail. Any new construction should come with them as standard. I'd even be tempted to make them a requirement for extensions too.

Offshore wind also is a biggie. Much preferable to onshore. The civilised world has to wean itself off anything that can be used to fund Russia's war of aggression. A move away from endlessly importing cheap Chinese tat would be a good idea too. Temu my arse.
[Post edited 26 Mar 12:29]

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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It's sickening... on 13:26 - Mar 26 with 671 viewsonehunglow

It's sickening... on 12:27 - Mar 26 by Dr_Winston

It is quite bonkers that new properties can still be built without solar panels. Houses, industrial units or retail. Any new construction should come with them as standard. I'd even be tempted to make them a requirement for extensions too.

Offshore wind also is a biggie. Much preferable to onshore. The civilised world has to wean itself off anything that can be used to fund Russia's war of aggression. A move away from endlessly importing cheap Chinese tat would be a good idea too. Temu my arse.
[Post edited 26 Mar 12:29]


Have to say that’s a great post

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It's sickening... on 15:36 - Mar 26 with 633 viewscontroversial_jack

It's sickening... on 12:09 - Mar 26 by majorraglan

There’s no proof the US put Nord stream 2 out of action.

We need more investment in off shore wind, solar etc and we also need to reopen to Rough Field to have the capability of storing a lot more gas which can then be used when we haven’t got renewables etc.

New houses are well insulated and they should all be fitted with solar when built, that would reduce demand and improve efficiency.


Yes there is, Biden went on record saying they would do it
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It's sickening... on 07:20 - Mar 28 with 550 viewsjackrmee

It's sickening... on 12:09 - Mar 26 by majorraglan

There’s no proof the US put Nord stream 2 out of action.

We need more investment in off shore wind, solar etc and we also need to reopen to Rough Field to have the capability of storing a lot more gas which can then be used when we haven’t got renewables etc.

New houses are well insulated and they should all be fitted with solar when built, that would reduce demand and improve efficiency.


No proof, but it’s pretty obvious to anyone with a bit of common sense

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It's sickening... on 09:31 - Mar 28 with 497 viewscontroversial_jack

It's sickening... on 07:20 - Mar 28 by jackrmee

No proof, but it’s pretty obvious to anyone with a bit of common sense


Exactly! They aren't going to admit it , and nobody involved would either.
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It's sickening... on 10:09 - Mar 28 with 487 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

It's sickening... on 15:36 - Mar 26 by controversial_jack

Yes there is, Biden went on record saying they would do it


He was also on record stating he used to enjoy letting little children stroke his legs until all the hairs stood up.

He’s not all there.

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It's sickening... on 10:17 - Mar 28 with 478 viewscontroversial_jack

It's sickening... on 10:09 - Mar 28 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

He was also on record stating he used to enjoy letting little children stroke his legs until all the hairs stood up.

He’s not all there.


Maybe he's not all there, but it still blew up
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It's sickening... on 11:11 - Mar 28 with 467 viewsDr_Winston

It's sickening... on 07:20 - Mar 28 by jackrmee

No proof, but it’s pretty obvious to anyone with a bit of common sense


So no proof then. Cool.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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It's sickening... on 11:14 - Mar 28 with 463 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

It's sickening... on 11:11 - Mar 28 by Dr_Winston

So no proof then. Cool.


Proof is so old fashioned these days.

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It's sickening... on 11:38 - Mar 28 with 457 viewsScotia

Mrs S is a social worker - she used to spend a lot of her time dealing with people who are in serious danger of having too much money in the bank, the upshot of this would be their benefits would stop. Many have a safe stuffed with cash in their house, she took one to buy a new TV in Currys in Morfa park with rolls to £20 notes that had been rolled up for so long they had to be spent before they were no longer legal tender and they were so tightly bound they didn't unfurl when the cashier was counting them.

I'm not saying this is the majority - but plenty of people get paid far too much in benefits. They live like peole on 6 figure salaries. This is often aided and abetted by housing organisationns ensuring benefits are maintained so they get their rent.

We were in a Cafe in Swansea few weeks ago when one of her clients walked in (with his Girlfriend, who lives in the flat next door to him that's very clever see, the housing association gets too rental incomes from benefits, even though they live in one alternating flat ;).

He'd got a taxi from Clydach, even though he has free bus travel, and was telling us he was back from Benidorm earlier in the week. Then went on to say he'd been to the Lake District, Cyprus and Bulgaria since July last year. That's a holiday every two months, paid for by the state.

He has a mild learning disability but could contribute to society in some way, he doesn't.

I also have a friend who is completey blind and has had both a Kidney and Pancreas transplant. He doesn't take much in the way of financial support , works every day and is poorer becasue of it.

So much of this is down to attitude. My opinion is that very few people should get cash for doing absolutely nothing.
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It's sickening... on 12:02 - Mar 28 with 433 viewscontroversial_jack

It's sickening... on 11:11 - Mar 28 by Dr_Winston

So no proof then. Cool.


Well yes,lol. If you say you are going to commit a crime and then it happens, you have incriminated yourself
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It's sickening... on 12:05 - Mar 28 with 426 viewsWhiterockin

It's sickening... on 12:02 - Mar 28 by controversial_jack

Well yes,lol. If you say you are going to commit a crime and then it happens, you have incriminated yourself


There is no guarantee you did it though.
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It's sickening... on 12:43 - Mar 28 with 402 viewsSullutaCreturned

It's sickening... on 10:17 - Mar 26 by controversial_jack

i'm not so sure of that. Inflation is caused by too much money circulating in the economy - an inflated money supply, hence the term.High consumer prices as well as energy would force consumers to pay the high prices and therefore put more money into the economy.

If consumers stop spending, then prices will drop. Energy prices are another matter


Consumers can't stop buying food, maybe they can't afford enough food but they still have to buy what they can.

Inflation is caused by several things, taken from the Harvard business school site...

Inflation is defined as a rise in prices across an economy, and in 2022 it has emerged as one of the biggest threats to global prosperity.

When prices rise unexpectedly, money doesn’t go as far as it used to, which can trigger demands for raises which then cause more inflation. When prices rise really quickly, the basic functioning of an economy can break down. For example, in periods of “hyperinflation,” people rush out to spend money the moment they get paid, because every hour they wait to spend means higher prices.
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It's sickening... on 19:50 - Mar 28 with 347 viewscontroversial_jack

It's sickening... on 12:05 - Mar 28 by Whiterockin

There is no guarantee you did it though.


He said he would do it and it happened.
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It's sickening... on 22:15 - Mar 28 with 298 viewsSullutaCreturned

It's sickening... on 19:50 - Mar 28 by controversial_jack

He said he would do it and it happened.


You know, people often say they will do something and never do but then someone else does it knowing there is already a suspect!

In any case, there still has to be proof.
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