| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales 06:24 - Nov 13 with 3296 views | Whiterockin |
The project, which could power about three million homes, will be built by publicly owned Great British Energy-Nuclear and is backed by a £2.5bn investment from the UK government.
So the UK government never invest in Wales. I hope the Senedd don't cause problems by not allowing improvements in the roads and problems with the Newts.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c051y3d7myzo
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| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 07:25 - Nov 13 with 2100 views | Dr_Winston |
Or try to stop it just because it's nuclear. I wouldn't put that past them either.
There should already be serious moves to build dozens of these around the country. If the money pissed away on windmills had been redirected to an energy source we already know is reliable and effective maybe we wouldn't be staring down the barrel of brownouts. |  |
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| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 09:04 - Nov 13 with 2027 views | Boundy |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 07:25 - Nov 13 by Dr_Winston |
Or try to stop it just because it's nuclear. I wouldn't put that past them either.
There should already be serious moves to build dozens of these around the country. If the money pissed away on windmills had been redirected to an energy source we already know is reliable and effective maybe we wouldn't be staring down the barrel of brownouts. |
The money pissed away on net zero has to be the biggest con ever ( there a quite few others in contention though).Despite proof to the contrary this governments mad in fact insane push towards net zero is costing the country billions of pounds and thousands of jobs .
I'm hopeful if it happens that this is just the start of a much needed rethink of how we generate electricity because currently there doesn't seem to be joined up thinking on how that will happen. |  |
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| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 09:23 - Nov 13 with 2015 views | onehunglow |
Questions will arise about just whom will get these jobs ; locals or The English
There will be a need for more “ immigrants” to work there thus angling the island still more
Anyway I won’t live to see this , if it comes off | |
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| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 09:37 - Nov 13 with 1986 views | Boundy |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 09:23 - Nov 13 by onehunglow |
Questions will arise about just whom will get these jobs ; locals or The English
There will be a need for more “ immigrants” to work there thus angling the island still more
Anyway I won’t live to see this , if it comes off |
I'd imagine a mix , local civil contractors (Jones brothers will be one I bet and yes they exist )
then the expertise in building reactors ( not many in Llangefni I would guess) so I suppose the area will see an influx of the Chinese local then the dreaded English. | |
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| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 10:12 - Nov 13 with 1950 views | trampie |
The English and their mercenaries suffered a huge defeat when they had the Welsh stuck on Ynys Mon, their carpenters built a wooden bridge but the Welsh were communicating with the mainland via lanterns and knew they were coming they let them finished building the bridge as they had a plan, when the English attacked the Welsh allowed a few hundred across to the island and then set the bridge on fire the top English fighters at the time were the knights and their horses and they all drown while the soldiers the Welsh allowed across the bridge were then slaughtered.
Down there for dancing as they say on Anglesey. |  |
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| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 10:38 - Nov 13 with 1909 views | onehunglow |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 09:37 - Nov 13 by Boundy |
I'd imagine a mix , local civil contractors (Jones brothers will be one I bet and yes they exist )
then the expertise in building reactors ( not many in Llangefni I would guess) so I suppose the area will see an influx of the Chinese local then the dreaded English. |
I can foresee many English families having moved too Llangefni caulking at their children having to be educated on a foreign language they don’t want speak
And why should they
This will cause social problems I can assure folk
It is not a welcoming place for fellow British folk
Read the openly racist posting
It is what it is
I’d have more respect if the language fascists we’re honest and said Welsh jobs for Welsh people
They will | |
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| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 11:15 - Nov 13 with 1891 views | Whiterockin |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 10:38 - Nov 13 by onehunglow |
I can foresee many English families having moved too Llangefni caulking at their children having to be educated on a foreign language they don’t want speak
And why should they
This will cause social problems I can assure folk
It is not a welcoming place for fellow British folk
Read the openly racist posting
It is what it is
I’d have more respect if the language fascists we’re honest and said Welsh jobs for Welsh people
They will |
They could always live on the Wirral and commute, many travel from Swansea to Bristol daily for work. | | | |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 11:50 - Nov 13 with 1854 views | Boundy |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 11:15 - Nov 13 by Whiterockin |
They could always live on the Wirral and commute, many travel from Swansea to Bristol daily for work. |
Projects like this ,although not a big as the ongoing one at Hinckley,tend to have on site accomodation,even the smaller ones I used to manage had a site accomodation so maybe the good folk of Llangefni won't be too put out but in fact grateful for the extra income into the local economy. | |
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| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 11:55 - Nov 13 with 1848 views | Gwyn737 |
So we've got an overwhelmingly posiitive energy news story where high value employment is brought to an area of need, backed by Westminster (Tories initially, now Labour) and the Senedd and within half a forum page it's been used to slag off Westminster, the Senedd, the English, the Welsh and the Welsh Laguage.
Jeez. | | | |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 12:13 - Nov 13 with 1828 views | Demitrius |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 11:55 - Nov 13 by Gwyn737 |
So we've got an overwhelmingly posiitive energy news story where high value employment is brought to an area of need, backed by Westminster (Tories initially, now Labour) and the Senedd and within half a forum page it's been used to slag off Westminster, the Senedd, the English, the Welsh and the Welsh Laguage.
Jeez. |
I agree Gwyn, everyone is far too cynical about the country and the direction we're heading in these days....
I've just been given exclusive access to the build and design pictures of this £2.5 billion pound power station and I have to say it looks mightily impressive...
https://img.freepik.com/premium-photo/sheikh-zayed-grand-mosque-abu-dhabi-is-lar |  |
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| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 12:14 - Nov 13 with 1826 views | onehunglow |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 11:15 - Nov 13 by Whiterockin |
They could always live on the Wirral and commute, many travel from Swansea to Bristol daily for work. |
Nah, not here Whitey
We hate foreigners
Christ, scousers aren’t welcome in West Kirby at all
They come over on Promark trainers and trackies and just make the place look and sound common
Caernarfon the place
Coffis really welcoming | |
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| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 12:20 - Nov 13 with 1823 views | Whiterockin |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 12:14 - Nov 13 by onehunglow |
Nah, not here Whitey
We hate foreigners
Christ, scousers aren’t welcome in West Kirby at all
They come over on Promark trainers and trackies and just make the place look and sound common
Caernarfon the place
Coffis really welcoming |
The Senedd accepted this project but turned down the up to £2 Billion Newport bypass, that's politics for you. Would they have accepted the money if it had been offered by a Labour government. Don't say the funds would never have materialised, the Senedd should have accepted the offer and seen where it went. | | | |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 12:22 - Nov 13 with 1815 views | Whiterockin |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 12:13 - Nov 13 by Demitrius |
I agree Gwyn, everyone is far too cynical about the country and the direction we're heading in these days....
I've just been given exclusive access to the build and design pictures of this £2.5 billion pound power station and I have to say it looks mightily impressive...
https://img.freepik.com/premium-photo/sheikh-zayed-grand-mosque-abu-dhabi-is-lar |
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| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 12:52 - Nov 13 with 1781 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 07:25 - Nov 13 by Dr_Winston |
Or try to stop it just because it's nuclear. I wouldn't put that past them either.
There should already be serious moves to build dozens of these around the country. If the money pissed away on windmills had been redirected to an energy source we already know is reliable and effective maybe we wouldn't be staring down the barrel of brownouts. |
So where is the spent Nuclear waste going? So you know.? Germany and Sweden have build deep rock waste disposal facilities costing billions in hard unfractured rock.
UK do not have any plans and put it in Sellafied for "temporary storage". 50 years and counting . No plans in Nimby UK.
Today right now 12:50 GMT Thursday 50% of our electricity is from wind and solar. More if imports have this sources. UK needs to beef up the storage capacity. I recall back in the day I have economy 7 heating. This would heat up hot bricks overnight when electric was cheaper and released during the day.
Plaid Cymru wants jobs in Gwynedd. There is no chance of them objecting.
Trumps dirty oil men have him in their pockets. I saw a report of14,000 unsafe I oil derk left I unattended in the. Gulf of Mexico. It is a " cut and run" mentality..
We have it in Wales at the Foss y Fran coal pit. Coal gone money in the bank but the restoration fund empty. The UK Government will not fund its reinstatement. [Post edited 14 Nov 12:43]
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| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 13:14 - Nov 13 with 1762 views | Whiterockin |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 12:52 - Nov 13 by ReslovenSwan1 |
So where is the spent Nuclear waste going? So you know.? Germany and Sweden have build deep rock waste disposal facilities costing billions in hard unfractured rock.
UK do not have any plans and put it in Sellafied for "temporary storage". 50 years and counting . No plans in Nimby UK.
Today right now 12:50 GMT Thursday 50% of our electricity is from wind and solar. More if imports have this sources. UK needs to beef up the storage capacity. I recall back in the day I have economy 7 heating. This would heat up hot bricks overnight when electric was cheaper and released during the day.
Plaid Cymru wants jobs in Gwynedd. There is no chance of them objecting.
Trumps dirty oil men have him in their pockets. I saw a report of14,000 unsafe I oil derk left I unattended in the. Gulf of Mexico. It is a " cut and run" mentality..
We have it in Wales at the Foss y Fran coal pit. Coal gone money in the bank but the restoration fund empty. The UK Government will not fund its reinstatement. [Post edited 14 Nov 12:43]
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They could always store it in Cardiff as they get everything else. | | | |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 13:21 - Nov 13 with 1741 views | Boundy |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 13:14 - Nov 13 by Whiterockin |
They could always store it in Cardiff as they get everything else. |
They have plans already then perhaps the 6 fingered inbreds will mutate into normal looking ( not normal acting that would be a step to g far.)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51375497 | |
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| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 13:25 - Nov 13 with 1741 views | Whiterockin |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 13:21 - Nov 13 by Boundy |
They have plans already then perhaps the 6 fingered inbreds will mutate into normal looking ( not normal acting that would be a step to g far.)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51375497 |
If there is any sand going we could have that back to replace the dredging. | | | |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 13:34 - Nov 13 with 1731 views | Boundy |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 13:25 - Nov 13 by Whiterockin |
If there is any sand going we could have that back to replace the dredging. |
Now that would be nice , Swansea Bay and Port Eynon definitely could do with some help. | |
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| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 16:12 - Nov 13 with 1670 views | felixstowe_jack |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 12:14 - Nov 13 by onehunglow |
Nah, not here Whitey
We hate foreigners
Christ, scousers aren’t welcome in West Kirby at all
They come over on Promark trainers and trackies and just make the place look and sound common
Caernarfon the place
Coffis really welcoming |
British people are not foreigners in any part of the UK despite what bigoted Welsh Nationalist say.
New well paid jobs are always welcome. [Post edited 14 Nov 8:14]
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| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 21:48 - Nov 13 with 1565 views | majorraglan |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 12:20 - Nov 13 by Whiterockin |
The Senedd accepted this project but turned down the up to £2 Billion Newport bypass, that's politics for you. Would they have accepted the money if it had been offered by a Labour government. Don't say the funds would never have materialised, the Senedd should have accepted the offer and seen where it went. |
To be honest I suspect the Senedd would have turned the money down for the relief road on environmental and conservation grounds, but we’ll never know.
I also believe Boris’s offer wasn't genuine, but again we’ll never know. You are right - they should have called his bluff.
My personal view is that the politicians in the Senedd who rejected the relief road were small minded and wrong. We need an excellent infrastructure so that we can attract industry and employers to the area, good IT, broadband etc are also critical to attract quality employers and jobs, but the bottom line is we need to attract money in to Wales and the Senedd have let us down. | | | |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 22:27 - Nov 13 with 1525 views | johnlangy |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 21:48 - Nov 13 by majorraglan |
To be honest I suspect the Senedd would have turned the money down for the relief road on environmental and conservation grounds, but we’ll never know.
I also believe Boris’s offer wasn't genuine, but again we’ll never know. You are right - they should have called his bluff.
My personal view is that the politicians in the Senedd who rejected the relief road were small minded and wrong. We need an excellent infrastructure so that we can attract industry and employers to the area, good IT, broadband etc are also critical to attract quality employers and jobs, but the bottom line is we need to attract money in to Wales and the Senedd have let us down. |
The Senedd is responsible for road infrastructure in Wales and from memory they rejected the money because they were being told that it had to be invested in the relief road rather than where they believed was the right option for infra development in Wales. And yes, maybe environmental and conservation grounds as well major.
Many would say the relief road WAS the right option but that's another argument.
And I wouldn't argue with the thought that Boris was being a sh1t stirring tosser with the offer. Just doing it to undermine the Senedd's powers with the money never actually materialising. | | | |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 23:08 - Nov 13 with 1505 views | majorraglan |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 22:27 - Nov 13 by johnlangy |
The Senedd is responsible for road infrastructure in Wales and from memory they rejected the money because they were being told that it had to be invested in the relief road rather than where they believed was the right option for infra development in Wales. And yes, maybe environmental and conservation grounds as well major.
Many would say the relief road WAS the right option but that's another argument.
And I wouldn't argue with the thought that Boris was being a sh1t stirring tosser with the offer. Just doing it to undermine the Senedd's powers with the money never actually materialising. |
The Senedd are and were responsible for road infrastucture in Wales and there were a number of reasons why they rejected the cash. The main reasons are summarised below.
Cost The estimated cost of the "black route" project was around £1.4bn, with some estimates reaching up to £2bn. Drakers argued that this was unaffordable and would have an "unacceptable impact on other priorities" for the Welsh Government, effectively consuming the entire budget on one road, BUT if Boris was paying for the road out of the “Brexit Dividend” Drakers argument about the budget is blown out of the water.
Environmental Impact, we know about this. I appreciate the sensitivity of the Gwent levels, but work could have been undertaken to mitigate some of the issues.
Devolved Powers: The Welsh Government asserted that the M4 relief road was an entirely devolved matter and that the UK Prime Minister (Boris Johnson) had "no say" in the decision which is correct, but it’s a pretty childish argument when the road could bring numerous benefits to the whole of south wales.
Alternative Transport Strategy: The Welsh Government has shifted its focus towards a sustainable transport strategy, including investments in public transport like the South East Wales Metro, new railway stations, and cycling/walking routes, based on recommendations from the independent Burns Committee and argue that building new roads is not a long-term solution to congestion and is incompatible with the goal of achieving net-zero emissions. Well that’s fine and dandy, but the traffic using the M4 goes beyond South East Wales and in to South West and West Wales.
Over and above that, a public inquiry inspector concluded there was a "compelling case" for the road.
Welsh Government ultimately decided the financial and environmental consequences made the proposal unsustainable. If someone offered to gift me a £2bn road for nowt, I’d be mad not to take it.
I’ve got no doubt in my mind that Boris was trying it on and Drakers should have called his bluff. The Westminster government have categorised HS2 as projects which benefit Wales even though they don’t to avoid spending money here and I see no reason why they’d start with the relief road.
One other thing, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if some of the issues we’re seeing on our roads, for example the issues on the bridges in the Menai Straight could be linked to a reduction in maintenance from cost cutting by the WG. | | | |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 07:24 - Nov 14 with 1402 views | Dr_Winston |
The primary reason the M4 relief road was stopped is because Welsh Govt transport policy was being led by fundamentalist morons like Lee Waters. People who believe that the proles shouldn't be using cars anyway. They need to get on public transport and bikes. | |
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| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 07:47 - Nov 14 with 1362 views | Whiterockin |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 07:24 - Nov 14 by Dr_Winston |
The primary reason the M4 relief road was stopped is because Welsh Govt transport policy was being led by fundamentalist morons like Lee Waters. People who believe that the proles shouldn't be using cars anyway. They need to get on public transport and bikes. |
That's going to go well if you don't own a bike in the coming weeks with the bus strike. | | | |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 08:26 - Nov 14 with 1328 views | felixstowe_jack |
| UK's first small nuclear power station to be built in north Wales on 23:08 - Nov 13 by majorraglan |
The Senedd are and were responsible for road infrastucture in Wales and there were a number of reasons why they rejected the cash. The main reasons are summarised below.
Cost The estimated cost of the "black route" project was around £1.4bn, with some estimates reaching up to £2bn. Drakers argued that this was unaffordable and would have an "unacceptable impact on other priorities" for the Welsh Government, effectively consuming the entire budget on one road, BUT if Boris was paying for the road out of the “Brexit Dividend” Drakers argument about the budget is blown out of the water.
Environmental Impact, we know about this. I appreciate the sensitivity of the Gwent levels, but work could have been undertaken to mitigate some of the issues.
Devolved Powers: The Welsh Government asserted that the M4 relief road was an entirely devolved matter and that the UK Prime Minister (Boris Johnson) had "no say" in the decision which is correct, but it’s a pretty childish argument when the road could bring numerous benefits to the whole of south wales.
Alternative Transport Strategy: The Welsh Government has shifted its focus towards a sustainable transport strategy, including investments in public transport like the South East Wales Metro, new railway stations, and cycling/walking routes, based on recommendations from the independent Burns Committee and argue that building new roads is not a long-term solution to congestion and is incompatible with the goal of achieving net-zero emissions. Well that’s fine and dandy, but the traffic using the M4 goes beyond South East Wales and in to South West and West Wales.
Over and above that, a public inquiry inspector concluded there was a "compelling case" for the road.
Welsh Government ultimately decided the financial and environmental consequences made the proposal unsustainable. If someone offered to gift me a £2bn road for nowt, I’d be mad not to take it.
I’ve got no doubt in my mind that Boris was trying it on and Drakers should have called his bluff. The Westminster government have categorised HS2 as projects which benefit Wales even though they don’t to avoid spending money here and I see no reason why they’d start with the relief road.
One other thing, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if some of the issues we’re seeing on our roads, for example the issues on the bridges in the Menai Straight could be linked to a reduction in maintenance from cost cutting by the WG. |
Funny how the Senedd was always happy to accept UK taxpayers money, when it funneled via the EU as part of the "regional development fund" . Often it was wasted on vanity projects although it was well spent on the vital transport project the heads of the valley road.
The UK government was happy to fund the M4 relief road as part of the UK infrastructure programme.
The environmental impacts were very low. Most of the road was around the outskirts of Newport crossing very little of the Gwent levels. Most if the Gwent levels have been drained to to provide low level farm land used for grazing.
As part of the project they could easily have allocated money to fully restore parts of the levels.
Another opportunity missed by Drakeford to improve everyday life for the people of South Wales. Improved infrastructure always brings new investments and jobs | |
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