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UK NET IMMIGRATION 17:54 - Jan 12 with 7304 viewsjohnlangy

ONS figures on net migration into the UK show that the numbers in the year to June 2025 fell to 204,000 compared with the record of 944,000 to March 2023. You'd imagine this would be a huge cause for celebration among the millions of people who have been so concerned about the numbers.

You would imagine that if people are so concerned about immigration they'd be interested enough to check out the facts.

Bearing that in mind, can any of you explain why it is that when asked by pollsters 67% believe that the numbers have increased while the percentage of Reform voters who believe it has risen is 80%.

So again, can any of you explain why those people aren't interested in facts ? It appears that they simply believe what they believe and don't want facts getting in the way of those beliefs ?
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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 23:45 - May 22 with 1370 viewsbuilthjack

Johnson & Co let more people into the country than 50 years worth of boats.

Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 09:53 - May 23 with 1248 viewsonehunglow

UK NET IMMIGRATION on 23:45 - May 22 by builthjack

Johnson & Co let more people into the country than 50 years worth of boats.


Let it go
You’re obsessed
Every political thread sees you repeat your hatred
We get it
Johnson was a clown
Starmer a piece of shite
Polanski perverse
Plaid beyond parody
Lib Dems meaningless do gooders

We’re fecked mo matter who gets in

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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 11:17 - May 23 with 1226 viewsBoundy

UK NET IMMIGRATION on 09:53 - May 23 by onehunglow

Let it go
You’re obsessed
Every political thread sees you repeat your hatred
We get it
Johnson was a clown
Starmer a piece of shite
Polanski perverse
Plaid beyond parody
Lib Dems meaningless do gooders

We’re fecked mo matter who gets in


Sda to say but that's all he can cling onto , even the most ardent labour supporter must be squirming at the sh++e thats been peddled by starmer & co , or are they ?

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 12:10 - May 23 with 1201 viewsWhiterockin

UK NET IMMIGRATION on 11:17 - May 23 by Boundy

Sda to say but that's all he can cling onto , even the most ardent labour supporter must be squirming at the sh++e thats been peddled by starmer & co , or are they ?


Well they are not actually, the most ardent Labour supporters are still blaming past governments for everything. Deluded springs to mind.
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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 12:56 - May 23 with 1171 viewsonehunglow

UK NET IMMIGRATION on 12:10 - May 23 by Whiterockin

Well they are not actually, the most ardent Labour supporters are still blaming past governments for everything. Deluded springs to mind.


They all blame each other
That is my point
Blaming Johnson etc doesn’t wash
This shower will see our country disintegrate without question
Islam is what it’s about and it’s where the votes are
It’s why Muslim cities are being targeted
It’s why Powys won’t because few Muslims there

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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 17:11 - May 23 with 1113 viewsDr_Winston

Blaming Johnson absolutely does wash. He threw open the gates to an extent that not even Blair did.

Most of the major problems we currently face as a nation can be laid at the feet of New Labour of course. I hope the architects of the damage done live long enough to face justice. However five Conservative Prime Ministers since then have done little to fix them.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 17:41 - May 23 with 1077 viewsonehunglow

UK NET IMMIGRATION on 17:11 - May 23 by Dr_Winston

Blaming Johnson absolutely does wash. He threw open the gates to an extent that not even Blair did.

Most of the major problems we currently face as a nation can be laid at the feet of New Labour of course. I hope the architects of the damage done live long enough to face justice. However five Conservative Prime Ministers since then have done little to fix them.


Decent reply
It does wash
Johnson not alone
It’s been going on for too long and Johnson was the one singled out on this thread

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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 18:46 - May 23 with 1039 viewsBoundy

UK NET IMMIGRATION on 17:41 - May 23 by onehunglow

Decent reply
It does wash
Johnson not alone
It’s been going on for too long and Johnson was the one singled out on this thread


Another 400 landed today , I wonder how many of them left ?

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 19:05 - May 23 with 1016 viewsjack_lord

UK NET IMMIGRATION on 18:46 - May 23 by Boundy

Another 400 landed today , I wonder how many of them left ?


They wouldn't have got across the beach if Reform were in power?

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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 23:37 - May 23 with 922 viewsbuilthjack

UK NET IMMIGRATION on 09:53 - May 23 by onehunglow

Let it go
You’re obsessed
Every political thread sees you repeat your hatred
We get it
Johnson was a clown
Starmer a piece of shite
Polanski perverse
Plaid beyond parody
Lib Dems meaningless do gooders

We’re fecked mo matter who gets in


Stick to the script old timer.

Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 01:44 - May 24 with 910 viewsRobbie

UK NET IMMIGRATION on 17:11 - May 23 by Dr_Winston

Blaming Johnson absolutely does wash. He threw open the gates to an extent that not even Blair did.

Most of the major problems we currently face as a nation can be laid at the feet of New Labour of course. I hope the architects of the damage done live long enough to face justice. However five Conservative Prime Ministers since then have done little to fix them.


Blair did open the gates in his tenure , albiet with his Human Rights lawyer misses having a word to the good in his ear .
Likewise another lawyer looking the other way in the hot seat looking the other way and denying everything , not my fault guv , the last lost screwed up on everything now wrong .

The genie is out of the bottle and it aint going to go back in in a hurry if ever .
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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 02:16 - May 24 with 904 viewsRobbie

UK NET IMMIGRATION on 18:28 - Jan 12 by AnotherJohn

The decrease in overall numbers is good news, but there are also negative aspects. As well as higher emigration, the figures show:

Near-record number of irregular arrivals.
Rising numbers of asylum family reunification visas.
Fewer skilled worker visas.

The proportion of total arrivals likely to make a net fiscal contribution appears to be falling.


This Government blames the Welfare costs so out of control on us oldies drawing a State Pension and still working gladly as a drain on finances for Rachel to solve .

A bad back sick paper was an excuse for a week on the sick if I seem to remember but mental health and associated issues have overtaken all funding were these costs are going .

Reporting close to a million youngsters are NEET and need help for jobs here .
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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 07:27 - May 24 with 863 viewsWhiterockin

UK NET IMMIGRATION on 02:16 - May 24 by Robbie

This Government blames the Welfare costs so out of control on us oldies drawing a State Pension and still working gladly as a drain on finances for Rachel to solve .

A bad back sick paper was an excuse for a week on the sick if I seem to remember but mental health and associated issues have overtaken all funding were these costs are going .

Reporting close to a million youngsters are NEET and need help for jobs here .


Two main reasons youngsters are finding it hard to get jobs. The rise in pension age means people are working longer and not freeing up jobs. Why not have a two tier retirement, 50% pension at 60 but only if you stop working and full pension at pensionable age. The other is the cost of employing youngsters in particular because they normally start on the minimum wage. Throw in NI, holiday pay and the new employment laws and businesses can't afford to carry staff like they used too (its very hard to get an apprenticeship). Now staffing levels are kept very tight and even then its hard to survive.
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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 07:46 - May 24 with 846 viewstrampie

UK NET IMMIGRATION on 07:27 - May 24 by Whiterockin

Two main reasons youngsters are finding it hard to get jobs. The rise in pension age means people are working longer and not freeing up jobs. Why not have a two tier retirement, 50% pension at 60 but only if you stop working and full pension at pensionable age. The other is the cost of employing youngsters in particular because they normally start on the minimum wage. Throw in NI, holiday pay and the new employment laws and businesses can't afford to carry staff like they used too (its very hard to get an apprenticeship). Now staffing levels are kept very tight and even then its hard to survive.


Do older workers cost an employer more ?

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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 08:07 - May 24 with 846 viewsWhiterockin

UK NET IMMIGRATION on 07:46 - May 24 by trampie

Do older workers cost an employer more ?


Normally yes because they are experienced and often on higher bands or with increments.
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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 08:11 - May 24 with 836 viewstrampie

UK NET IMMIGRATION on 08:07 - May 24 by Whiterockin

Normally yes because they are experienced and often on higher bands or with increments.


So your point #2 does not quite tie in with your "the cost of employing youngsters" analysis.

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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 08:17 - May 24 with 840 viewsWhiterockin

UK NET IMMIGRATION on 08:11 - May 24 by trampie

So your point #2 does not quite tie in with your "the cost of employing youngsters" analysis.


Clearly you know nothing about people working, how am I not surprised. Younger workers are often the ones you carry or take on apprenticeships, in the past you persevered and carried them for possibly long term gain for employee and employer. Employers I speak to regularly are reluctant to do this now because of costs.
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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 09:06 - May 24 with 815 viewstrampie

UK NET IMMIGRATION on 08:17 - May 24 by Whiterockin

Clearly you know nothing about people working, how am I not surprised. Younger workers are often the ones you carry or take on apprenticeships, in the past you persevered and carried them for possibly long term gain for employee and employer. Employers I speak to regularly are reluctant to do this now because of costs.


In the areas of places I've worked there has been no 'carrying' of workers, so one has to wonder how common a practice is it.

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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 10:08 - May 24 with 805 viewscontroversial_jack

UK NET IMMIGRATION on 18:28 - Jan 12 by AnotherJohn

The decrease in overall numbers is good news, but there are also negative aspects. As well as higher emigration, the figures show:

Near-record number of irregular arrivals.
Rising numbers of asylum family reunification visas.
Fewer skilled worker visas.

The proportion of total arrivals likely to make a net fiscal contribution appears to be falling.


That's actually down on the previous few years
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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 23:29 - May 24 with 727 viewsWingstandwood

STAGGERING! Thirty six Turkish barbers, fourteen vape shops, that is the high street in Accrington in Lancashire.

Argus!

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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 08:29 - May 25 with 645 viewsDr_Winston

UK NET IMMIGRATION on 23:29 - May 24 by Wingstandwood

STAGGERING! Thirty six Turkish barbers, fourteen vape shops, that is the high street in Accrington in Lancashire.


The Government don't care because that's fifty businesses that were previously empty shop fronts now paying rates, VAT and other assorted taxes.

If this was the US the local councils would be just as culpable as the criminals under RICO statutes.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 09:31 - May 25 with 628 viewscontroversial_jack

UK NET IMMIGRATION on 23:45 - May 22 by builthjack

Johnson & Co let more people into the country than 50 years worth of boats.


You are correct, but don't confuse the flag twirlers with facts
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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 09:34 - May 25 with 625 viewscontroversial_jack

UK NET IMMIGRATION on 08:07 - May 24 by Whiterockin

Normally yes because they are experienced and often on higher bands or with increments.


They would also be more productive according to that
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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 19:42 - May 25 with 583 viewsbuilthjack

Good to see hard working people are able to get a haircut on a Sunday these days.
Even on a bank holiday Monday.
It used to be almost impossible for people working 8 til 6 to get a haircut.

Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

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UK NET IMMIGRATION on 20:27 - May 25 with 575 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

UK NET IMMIGRATION on 17:11 - May 23 by Dr_Winston

Blaming Johnson absolutely does wash. He threw open the gates to an extent that not even Blair did.

Most of the major problems we currently face as a nation can be laid at the feet of New Labour of course. I hope the architects of the damage done live long enough to face justice. However five Conservative Prime Ministers since then have done little to fix them.


I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Boris might have worn a Conservative badge and been a posh public school boy but he is by a long long way the most liberal (small l) Prime Minister we have ever had.

Can’t think of one Conservative value he ever held. Maybe economically you could make an argument but that’s about it.

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