| Ronald Pereira Martins 14:34 - Feb 18 with 1809 views | sw02sea |
Two questions.
1)Can someone please explain to me why this guy seems to be the first name on the team sheet?
2) How come he hardly gets ever gets dropped?
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| Ronald Pereira Martins on 10:51 - Feb 19 with 592 views | jack247 |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 10:21 - Feb 19 by onehunglow |
Majority on here do not or cannot get to games
Does that mean their views are less relevant than those who do
Television cameras get everywhere and showcase the skills and abilities or not that players have
Ron bearing down on goal then losing the ball , Ron shooting ten yds wide ,or crossing to the corner glad is what happened
Fact
This is Uber fan syndrome we are seeing
Don’t go, you have no right to comment
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You need a certain level of perception to pick up what’s going on off the ball whether you’re at the game or not.
Plenty of people at the game won’t notice the graft Ronald puts in or his positional awareness covering his fullback. All they’ll see is him shifting it onto his right foot and shooting low and hard at the opposite corner.
I’ll admit he tries the same shot nearly every time and it rarely works.
If you haven’t got that perception, you’ll get just as much, probably more, from watching a stream. | | | |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 10:51 - Feb 19 with 592 views | scruffyjack |
Had a good chat with one of the club’s ambassadors regarding Ronald, and we both have the same opinion, offensively, and that’s the prime attribute for a winger, he’s very frustrating. | | | |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 11:13 - Feb 19 with 540 views | Whiterockin |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 10:51 - Feb 19 by scruffyjack |
Had a good chat with one of the club’s ambassadors regarding Ronald, and we both have the same opinion, offensively, and that’s the prime attribute for a winger, he’s very frustrating. |
Thats fair. I have thought for a while he would be more suited to three at the back with wing backs, you could say similar about Key. The decision the coaches have to make is do we sacrifice something up top for defensive cover or use more flair up the pitch and sacrifice the cover. That's what a coach is paid for. |  | | |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 11:33 - Feb 19 with 509 views | jack247 |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 10:51 - Feb 19 by scruffyjack |
Had a good chat with one of the club’s ambassadors regarding Ronald, and we both have the same opinion, offensively, and that’s the prime attribute for a winger, he’s very frustrating. |
This is absolutely true. He gets into great positions multiple times most games, but very rarely capitalises on it. Certainly frustrating.
However, with any of our right backs at the moment, he’s a better bet than the type of winger who gets bums off seats, but doesn’t do the dirty work. Off the top of my head, Montero, Oko-Flex and possibly Inoussa would be in that category.
Matos can see it. He’s not picking Ronald purely on his attacking | | | |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 11:46 - Feb 19 with 466 views | scruffyjack |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 11:33 - Feb 19 by jack247 |
This is absolutely true. He gets into great positions multiple times most games, but very rarely capitalises on it. Certainly frustrating.
However, with any of our right backs at the moment, he’s a better bet than the type of winger who gets bums off seats, but doesn’t do the dirty work. Off the top of my head, Montero, Oko-Flex and possibly Inoussa would be in that category.
Matos can see it. He’s not picking Ronald purely on his attacking |
Montero, although often injured, on his day was one of the best wingers we had in the premier league. Unplayable on times. | | | |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 12:08 - Feb 19 with 441 views | jack247 |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 11:46 - Feb 19 by scruffyjack |
Montero, although often injured, on his day was one of the best wingers we had in the premier league. Unplayable on times. |
Yes, I know.
On his day he was superb. He had about four of them in the Premier League.
He was more consistently effective when we got relegated because he was just levels above most championship fullbacks.
He left his fullback exposed every single game. Not everyone notices that and it doesn’t matter on the odd occasion he roasted the fullback like the Arsenal and Chelsea games. What would tend to happen is our fullback would be left exposed to a 2v1 and would then get the blame for opponents passing their way past him.
That type of winger is great if you’ve got a prime Naughton or even Tate behind him. Where we are now with Galbraith, a midfielder who drops into midfield regularly or Key who isn’t at his best and likes to bomb on anyway, we need a winger who protects them.
Ronald isn’t ideal. I’d prefer a Routledge or Dyer type. He’s just the most suited to it we have at the moment. | | | |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 19:13 - Feb 19 with 352 views | Dippersmate |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 19:30 - Feb 18 by Whiterockin |
2nd top goalscorer this season.
2nd for assists this season.
Not those pesky facts again. |
I thought one of our major problems was, we dont create enough good chances and so, dont score enough goals?
Our wing play on either side is hardly brilliant but Ronald gets a lot more time on the pitch than Eom so gets a lot more of the ball i think. What he does with that isnt good enough. I would have to see derailed stats to be sure of that but Ronald certainly tackles better than he crosses. | | | |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 22:39 - Feb 19 with 279 views | JJBomber |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 19:44 - Feb 18 by GVJack |
He's in the game a lot, as up to now we have mainly focussed attack down the right. That workload could/should be shared out a bit more evenly now with another pacey wingers in Nunes now on the books so that may improve his quality a bit
He certainly needs to work on his "end product" but he's a grafter and gives his all for the cause. Goes down like he's been shot at every chance though which is frustrating as I don't think he's won a penalty all season! |
I think we've only had one penalty all season, which was the foul on Galbraith in the Leicester game. We just don't get given penalties! | | | |
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| Ronald Pereira Martins on 08:53 - Feb 20 with 202 views | RichardO |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 22:39 - Feb 19 by JJBomber |
I think we've only had one penalty all season, which was the foul on Galbraith in the Leicester game. We just don't get given penalties! |
Remember a season when it seemed as if we didn't get penalties and up pops Leon Britton in the box and penalty won. Skillful players like Galbraith and Britton knowing and timing things right to win the penalty,.we haven't got the ball in the box enough to players who have good tricky ball control who invite challenges, Cullen experience gets him in good positions in the box but often he has to resort to one touch plays, I personally would like to see Widell in the team more as his on the ball skill level is better than Cullen although he is still finding his feet at Championship level being himdered by injury to find that knack of getting goals or penalties.
Ronald's timing of the going down under contact often is poor or over exaggerated but quite often he is being foul
Ronald has good body strength to knock defenders off the ball, we have seen it when quick or high balls are played to him and it is one of the reasons that they are, the fact a number of players go down under the slightest of touches to gain an advantage should not be surprise but often defenders test their opposition forwards resolve with bad tackles from behind Ronald knows this and has had a number of full back on yellow cards but then sometimes we we stopped playing through Ronald, when we did a number of teams have had to replace the fullbacks for fear of a second.
We have played the long high ball up to Ronald and Vipotnik but haven't had anyone close to take advantage of their presence and to be fair Vipotnik has only this season started being effective in the aerial battles but that does seem to be changing under Matos, little things are beginning to click , the more they do the better but players like Ronald need quick ball and support if that support is not forthcoming then often a winger can look a lot worse than they are, O'Brien's play and experience meant more forward players were brought into the game early, the same can said under Matos's coaching giving forward time and space on the ball to create scoring opportunities a number of teams have realised this and have resorted to sitting deep again rather than try and press us high and as Sheffield Wednesday did suffer the consequences.
Matos's now needs to ensure he has players who can break down those deep lying defences while no over committing players to suffer the counter attacks giving away goals,freekick in dangerous areas and corners against teams known to cause problems at set pieces. [Post edited 20 Feb 10:48]
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| Ronald Pereira Martins on 09:05 - Feb 20 with 192 views | Whiterockin |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 08:53 - Feb 20 by RichardO |
Remember a season when it seemed as if we didn't get penalties and up pops Leon Britton in the box and penalty won. Skillful players like Galbraith and Britton knowing and timing things right to win the penalty,.we haven't got the ball in the box enough to players who have good tricky ball control who invite challenges, Cullen experience gets him in good positions in the box but often he has to resort to one touch plays, I personally would like to see Widell in the team more as his on the ball skill level is better than Cullen although he is still finding his feet at Championship level being himdered by injury to find that knack of getting goals or penalties.
Ronald's timing of the going down under contact often is poor or over exaggerated but quite often he is being foul
Ronald has good body strength to knock defenders off the ball, we have seen it when quick or high balls are played to him and it is one of the reasons that they are, the fact a number of players go down under the slightest of touches to gain an advantage should not be surprise but often defenders test their opposition forwards resolve with bad tackles from behind Ronald knows this and has had a number of full back on yellow cards but then sometimes we we stopped playing through Ronald, when we did a number of teams have had to replace the fullbacks for fear of a second.
We have played the long high ball up to Ronald and Vipotnik but haven't had anyone close to take advantage of their presence and to be fair Vipotnik has only this season started being effective in the aerial battles but that does seem to be changing under Matos, little things are beginning to click , the more they do the better but players like Ronald need quick ball and support if that support is not forthcoming then often a winger can look a lot worse than they are, O'Brien's play and experience meant more forward players were brought into the game early, the same can said under Matos's coaching giving forward time and space on the ball to create scoring opportunities a number of teams have realised this and have resorted to sitting deep again rather than try and press us high and as Sheffield Wednesday did suffer the consequences.
Matos's now needs to ensure he has players who can break down those deep lying defences while no over committing players to suffer the counter attacks giving away goals,freekick in dangerous areas and corners against teams known to cause problems at set pieces. [Post edited 20 Feb 10:48]
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If you are looking to up your penalty count the easiest way is to run with the ball at pace into the box, currently we prefer [probably on instruction from Matos] to shoot from outside the box. I will add often way off target, but when they go in it looks like a worldie, Tymon and Eon spring to mind. | | | |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 09:31 - Feb 20 with 170 views | RichardO |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 09:05 - Feb 20 by Whiterockin |
If you are looking to up your penalty count the easiest way is to run with the ball at pace into the box, currently we prefer [probably on instruction from Matos] to shoot from outside the box. I will add often way off target, but when they go in it looks like a worldie, Tymon and Eon spring to mind. |
More than happy to have shots from the edge of the box especially if the opposition drop deep because as Lampard made a career out of divert, ricocheted goals but he also made lots of runs into the box, but lately we have had too many long range shots from well outside of the box with goal keepers set in good positions, if they are not then fine but good moves with options have fizzled out because the wrong shooting option from too far out has been taken often relieving pressure on the opposition.
As you say Tymon, Eom and Fulton have scored good goals but usually closer than some of the attempts seen of late chances created from the chaos of set players or quick play to open teams up. | | | |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 09:46 - Feb 20 with 157 views | jack247 |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 09:05 - Feb 20 by Whiterockin |
If you are looking to up your penalty count the easiest way is to run with the ball at pace into the box, currently we prefer [probably on instruction from Matos] to shoot from outside the box. I will add often way off target, but when they go in it looks like a worldie, Tymon and Eon spring to mind. |
We haven’t got the type of player to drive at and beat defenders on the edge of the box. The best ones are quick and aggressive with good ball control.
Widdell is probably the closest we’ve got to that. Maybe Walta will be the one.
I agree with what you’re saying and Matos will undoubtedly be looking to do something about it. | | | |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 10:16 - Feb 20 with 143 views | onehunglow |
Hopefully Snr Martins will prove us/ me wrong starting tomorrow
It’s all about the team and club
It’s what we ALL love
Love is Strange | |
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| Ronald Pereira Martins on 10:21 - Feb 20 with 141 views | RichardO |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 09:46 - Feb 20 by jack247 |
We haven’t got the type of player to drive at and beat defenders on the edge of the box. The best ones are quick and aggressive with good ball control.
Widdell is probably the closest we’ve got to that. Maybe Walta will be the one.
I agree with what you’re saying and Matos will undoubtedly be looking to do something about it. |
I'm sure Galbraith has the skill required and he does look good working the ball forward which for me he is better workering from a relatively deep starting position coming onto the ball accessing his option while keeping the ball moving and playing the ball quickly before he gets closed down , his being caught on the ball while facing the wrong way taking the wrong option which has led to a goal being unusual. If we are expecting him to attack from our defensive line no matter how deep or high that line is he must be able to do so knowing that adequate cover is in place. Similarly if starting from a midfield position which most of us I think would prefer. Sheehan tried to utilise O'Brien further forward with little success and similarly looked better starting from deep but that getting forward from deep creates gaps in our defensive formation that need suitable cover, question is have we got the players who can know when to sit deeper or drop of as required? | | | |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 10:30 - Feb 20 with 133 views | RichardO |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 09:46 - Feb 20 by jack247 |
We haven’t got the type of player to drive at and beat defenders on the edge of the box. The best ones are quick and aggressive with good ball control.
Widdell is probably the closest we’ve got to that. Maybe Walta will be the one.
I agree with what you’re saying and Matos will undoubtedly be looking to do something about it. |
I think Widell is a safe bet in that attacking midfield role he is not a winger, maybe Eom as he is not a left winger, Nunes and Inoussa while having different skill set could help us on the wing to get that team shape or dynamic we want, both I would say are a little inexperienced and need to look at their tracking back but sometimes if the defence is coping well they would suit the team better further up the field, pro and cons aiding to the team set up. [Post edited 20 Feb 10:31]
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| Ronald Pereira Martins on 10:30 - Feb 20 with 133 views | jack247 |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 10:21 - Feb 20 by RichardO |
I'm sure Galbraith has the skill required and he does look good working the ball forward which for me he is better workering from a relatively deep starting position coming onto the ball accessing his option while keeping the ball moving and playing the ball quickly before he gets closed down , his being caught on the ball while facing the wrong way taking the wrong option which has led to a goal being unusual. If we are expecting him to attack from our defensive line no matter how deep or high that line is he must be able to do so knowing that adequate cover is in place. Similarly if starting from a midfield position which most of us I think would prefer. Sheehan tried to utilise O'Brien further forward with little success and similarly looked better starting from deep but that getting forward from deep creates gaps in our defensive formation that need suitable cover, question is have we got the players who can know when to sit deeper or drop of as required? |
Now we’re back to the Ronald thing. He covers Galbraith multiple times every game by slotting in at right back every time Galbraith moves into midfield. It’s the side of the job not every winger would do and he doesn’t really get credit for.
As for Galbraith himself, he’s quite similar to Grimes in the way he plays. Comfortable on the ball, neat and technical. He does have more inertia drifting past players in midfield, but I’m not sure he’s the kind of dynamic dribbler who is going to burst past players into the box. | | | |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 10:32 - Feb 20 with 127 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 12:08 - Feb 19 by jack247 |
Yes, I know.
On his day he was superb. He had about four of them in the Premier League.
He was more consistently effective when we got relegated because he was just levels above most championship fullbacks.
He left his fullback exposed every single game. Not everyone notices that and it doesn’t matter on the odd occasion he roasted the fullback like the Arsenal and Chelsea games. What would tend to happen is our fullback would be left exposed to a 2v1 and would then get the blame for opponents passing their way past him.
That type of winger is great if you’ve got a prime Naughton or even Tate behind him. Where we are now with Galbraith, a midfielder who drops into midfield regularly or Key who isn’t at his best and likes to bomb on anyway, we need a winger who protects them.
Ronald isn’t ideal. I’d prefer a Routledge or Dyer type. He’s just the most suited to it we have at the moment. |
I’d put Eom in the same category. Someone needs to tell him he doesn’t have to cut inside and balloon the ball over the bar every single time he gets the ball. It’s come off a few times and been fantastic but he wants to do it every single time when there’s far better options. |  |
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| Ronald Pereira Martins on 10:38 - Feb 20 with 124 views | RichardO |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 10:30 - Feb 20 by jack247 |
Now we’re back to the Ronald thing. He covers Galbraith multiple times every game by slotting in at right back every time Galbraith moves into midfield. It’s the side of the job not every winger would do and he doesn’t really get credit for.
As for Galbraith himself, he’s quite similar to Grimes in the way he plays. Comfortable on the ball, neat and technical. He does have more inertia drifting past players in midfield, but I’m not sure he’s the kind of dynamic dribbler who is going to burst past players into the box. |
Galbraith has more pace than Grimes, his ability to win the aerial ball is better but Grimes has a lot more experience and in the right team setup has shown to be effective at times with us he was pivotal and at times teams were able to nullify his effect on games and he would need other players to step up to take advantage of the teams trying to close him down; Cooper almost got it right but not quite. Let's hope the team benefits from the attention needed to handle Galbraith and take advantage . | | | |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 10:41 - Feb 20 with 120 views | onehunglow |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 10:30 - Feb 20 by jack247 |
Now we’re back to the Ronald thing. He covers Galbraith multiple times every game by slotting in at right back every time Galbraith moves into midfield. It’s the side of the job not every winger would do and he doesn’t really get credit for.
As for Galbraith himself, he’s quite similar to Grimes in the way he plays. Comfortable on the ball, neat and technical. He does have more inertia drifting past players in midfield, but I’m not sure he’s the kind of dynamic dribbler who is going to burst past players into the box. |
It’s why having a right back of some quality was needed right at the start of the season
Galbraith is surely not a full back but an impressive young midfielder
He has boundless energy and the ability to usutikse it
IMO , we have and are not maximising his talent
Bringing on Ward was not smart
It’s clear Key , when stripped of sentiment, is really not up to it
It’s why Matos won’t risk it unless desperate
Nobody has ever doubted Ronald’s team or work ethic
He’s 100% trier every game | |
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| Ronald Pereira Martins on 10:56 - Feb 20 with 106 views | RichardO |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 10:41 - Feb 20 by onehunglow |
It’s why having a right back of some quality was needed right at the start of the season
Galbraith is surely not a full back but an impressive young midfielder
He has boundless energy and the ability to usutikse it
IMO , we have and are not maximising his talent
Bringing on Ward was not smart
It’s clear Key , when stripped of sentiment, is really not up to it
It’s why Matos won’t risk it unless desperate
Nobody has ever doubted Ronald’s team or work ethic
He’s 100% trier every game |
What little I have seen of Parker he looks good more so in a winger back role when first selected but I didn't realise how young he was. Though he did well this season all be it against a lower division opposition and in games played did not get pushed off the ball as easily as we have seen Key but not enough experience for the championship given the lack of experience in the squad?
He did get questioned or blamed for one goal but to me that was down to Congreve's poor tracking back which in the under 21s game I saw Congreve do the hard work to get back but didn't get goal side and lost track of his player. Hopefully Congreve is gettting enough game time and experience to cut out mistakes and Parker can get game time maybe on loan to prove his worth? [Post edited 20 Feb 11:30]
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| Ronald Pereira Martins on 11:15 - Feb 20 with 92 views | jack247 |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 10:41 - Feb 20 by onehunglow |
It’s why having a right back of some quality was needed right at the start of the season
Galbraith is surely not a full back but an impressive young midfielder
He has boundless energy and the ability to usutikse it
IMO , we have and are not maximising his talent
Bringing on Ward was not smart
It’s clear Key , when stripped of sentiment, is really not up to it
It’s why Matos won’t risk it unless desperate
Nobody has ever doubted Ronald’s team or work ethic
He’s 100% trier every game |
Nobody doubts it maybe, but nobody gives him credit for it either. I can understand why he gets criticism for his shooting and his final ball. Criticism and praise should both be given when merited.
Key has gone very much off the boil this season. The player we’ve had the last two seasons is definitely up to it. This season, he hasn’t been. With hindsight, I’m sure we would have signed a RB in the summer | | | |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 12:07 - Feb 20 with 73 views | RichardO |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 10:32 - Feb 20 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I’d put Eom in the same category. Someone needs to tell him he doesn’t have to cut inside and balloon the ball over the bar every single time he gets the ball. It’s come off a few times and been fantastic but he wants to do it every single time when there’s far better options. |
Isn't it an issue with players not getting their head up to pick the right option, can we exuse Eom because of the fact playing on the wrong side having to concentrate on his foot work having said that cutting inside on his right foot who would begrudge his getting a shot away even though better options may open up for other players.
A word on Cullen berating players for not playing balls into him it seemed awfully excessive, Nunes getting a lot of attention, I think it can be unhelpful for a young player especially as they are otherwise performing well, quite happy to learn from experienced players but not harassed which seem to be the case because it restricts the decision making getting the youngster to decide too early for the best option rather than playing the right ball to catch defenders out rather than making it easy for defenders to read. [Post edited 20 Feb 12:12]
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| Ronald Pereira Martins on 12:11 - Feb 20 with 70 views | jack247 |
| Ronald Pereira Martins on 10:32 - Feb 20 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I’d put Eom in the same category. Someone needs to tell him he doesn’t have to cut inside and balloon the ball over the bar every single time he gets the ball. It’s come off a few times and been fantastic but he wants to do it every single time when there’s far better options. |
Both Eom and Ronald try the same shot nearly every time. Eom looks to cut onto his right foot and bend it into the far corner. Ronald shoots low and hard across the keeper.
I’ll stick up for them when they aren’t getting credit for the overall job they do, Ronald in particular, but they both need to vary their shots a bit | | | |
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