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Paris CL Riots 19:09 - May 31 with 2345 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

I have a friend who lives is the 4th Arrondissement of Paris. She sent me a note to say that last night there was trouble in many parts of Paris, she says some areas are now not really policed because of the risk of organised violence against the police. Nationally over 780 people have been arrested.

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Paris CL Riots on 19:58 - May 31 with 2264 viewsonehunglow

Mainly of of African descent no doubt Paris is sheethole

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Paris CL Riots on 21:41 - May 31 with 2233 viewsmajorraglan

A number of years ago we visited a French Centre Parc and on our way back we detoured to Euro Disney and stayed at a lovely Air BNB with a French family. We were warned in no uncertain terms to avoid the 18, 19 and 20th Arrondissements and anything between the North and East points on the compass outside of the peripherique ring road. Big no go areas. Needless to say we took the advice.
Driving around the peripherique was an experience I don’t want to repeat.
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Paris CL Riots on 10:17 - Jun 1 with 2069 viewsonehunglow

Paris CL Riots on 21:41 - May 31 by majorraglan

A number of years ago we visited a French Centre Parc and on our way back we detoured to Euro Disney and stayed at a lovely Air BNB with a French family. We were warned in no uncertain terms to avoid the 18, 19 and 20th Arrondissements and anything between the North and East points on the compass outside of the peripherique ring road. Big no go areas. Needless to say we took the advice.
Driving around the peripherique was an experience I don’t want to repeat.


Horrific isn’t it
Smart arse here decided to traverse the Perefuerque in the evening as off peak would be a breeze
We were going to Frejus
I got earache from wife all the way to Lyon

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Paris CL Riots on 13:21 - Jun 1 with 2009 viewsonehunglow

1998 , no problems just joy
Now , different

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Paris CL Riots on 14:07 - Jun 1 with 2006 viewshowenjack

And they want us to rejoin the EU ? C est important que ne vous pas promenez dans la merde mais l' evitter a toute les costes
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Paris CL Riots on 20:06 - Jun 1 with 1879 viewsonehunglow

Paris CL Riots on 14:07 - Jun 1 by howenjack

And they want us to rejoin the EU ? C est important que ne vous pas promenez dans la merde mais l' evitter a toute les costes
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Paris CL Riots on 23:59 - Jun 1 with 1795 viewsmajorraglan

Paris CL Riots on 10:17 - Jun 1 by onehunglow

Horrific isn’t it
Smart arse here decided to traverse the Perefuerque in the evening as off peak would be a breeze
We were going to Frejus
I got earache from wife all the way to Lyon


Absolutely horrendous place to drive.

Every car was tailgating the car in front and they were constantly changing lanes and cutting each other up, to boot you had idiots on motorbikes squeezing between the cars in the middle of the 2 lane carriageway. I’ve driven in a fair few different countries, but Paris is the worst.
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Paris CL Riots on 02:24 - Jun 2 with 1772 viewsRobbie

BBC reporting 6 people stabbed during the Arsenal victory celebration bus ride .

No interest in Arsenal or PSG but maybe some of our football supporters are not innocent .

Internal gang warfare having a chance to give it a go under the name of sport maybe .
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Paris CL Riots on 11:14 - Jun 2 with 1667 viewsonehunglow

Paris CL Riots on 23:59 - Jun 1 by majorraglan

Absolutely horrendous place to drive.

Every car was tailgating the car in front and they were constantly changing lanes and cutting each other up, to boot you had idiots on motorbikes squeezing between the cars in the middle of the 2 lane carriageway. I’ve driven in a fair few different countries, but Paris is the worst.


Actually some smaller French cities are worse
Rennes, Dijon,Lyon and Toulouse spring to mind

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Paris CL Riots on 13:42 - Jun 2 with 1633 viewsAnotherJohn

Paris CL Riots on 23:59 - Jun 1 by majorraglan

Absolutely horrendous place to drive.

Every car was tailgating the car in front and they were constantly changing lanes and cutting each other up, to boot you had idiots on motorbikes squeezing between the cars in the middle of the 2 lane carriageway. I’ve driven in a fair few different countries, but Paris is the worst.


Agree that France (as well as Italy) can be pretty challenging, although it is some years since I went on the Boulevard Périphérique and I'm sure it must be worse now. However, my nomination for worst city driving is Vietnam, where the motor bike swarms in big cities are something to behold, even compared with other Asian countries. Last time I was in Da Nang my taxi from the airport to the hotel side-swiped and knocked over one rider and carried on without stopping or any apparent concern. Any other nominations for worst driving environment?
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Paris CL Riots on 14:01 - Jun 2 with 1628 viewshowenjack

Paris CL Riots on 13:42 - Jun 2 by AnotherJohn

Agree that France (as well as Italy) can be pretty challenging, although it is some years since I went on the Boulevard Périphérique and I'm sure it must be worse now. However, my nomination for worst city driving is Vietnam, where the motor bike swarms in big cities are something to behold, even compared with other Asian countries. Last time I was in Da Nang my taxi from the airport to the hotel side-swiped and knocked over one rider and carried on without stopping or any apparent concern. Any other nominations for worst driving environment?


Bulgarias pretty bad . I hired a car there and had only driven 10 miles or so and witnessed 3 accidents . In one there were 2 guys squaring up to each other on the side of the road steam pouring out of the crumpled bonnet of one car .
I also witnessed a car pull out and overtake in front of us , 3 cars , when approaching a blind bend . Sheer madness but he got away with it. The motorways were not very well surfaced but a bit better than the town roads . Drove up towards Varna from Sunny Beach area and then North West towards Romania . It was a long time ago now so hopefully things have changed for the better.ĺ
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Paris CL Riots on 18:02 - Jun 2 with 1563 viewsDippersmate

Paris CL Riots on 13:42 - Jun 2 by AnotherJohn

Agree that France (as well as Italy) can be pretty challenging, although it is some years since I went on the Boulevard Périphérique and I'm sure it must be worse now. However, my nomination for worst city driving is Vietnam, where the motor bike swarms in big cities are something to behold, even compared with other Asian countries. Last time I was in Da Nang my taxi from the airport to the hotel side-swiped and knocked over one rider and carried on without stopping or any apparent concern. Any other nominations for worst driving environment?


Been to Italy, in the last 8 months been to Milan and Rome and without any problems. Maybe we got lucky but used the metro in both cities, wandered around a lot, specially in Rome and it was all good.
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Paris CL Riots on 18:07 - Jun 2 with 1549 viewsonehunglow

Paris CL Riots on 13:42 - Jun 2 by AnotherJohn

Agree that France (as well as Italy) can be pretty challenging, although it is some years since I went on the Boulevard Périphérique and I'm sure it must be worse now. However, my nomination for worst city driving is Vietnam, where the motor bike swarms in big cities are something to behold, even compared with other Asian countries. Last time I was in Da Nang my taxi from the airport to the hotel side-swiped and knocked over one rider and carried on without stopping or any apparent concern. Any other nominations for worst driving environment?


Montreal

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Paris CL Riots on 18:10 - Jun 2 with 1552 viewstrampie

Worst places I've driven is Paris the Périphérique which I've had the misfortune of having done scores of times over the years, Southern France and Italy, it must be the Latin blood.

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Paris CL Riots on 19:39 - Jun 2 with 1528 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Paris CL Riots on 18:07 - Jun 2 by onehunglow

Montreal


Amman, driving into the centre on a two lane ' motorway ' the traffic backed up. Soon they were driving over the central reservation and using the other carriageway in the wrong direction. When that backed up they took to driving through a large tented market on the other side of the road.

Every car in Amman has a dent, if you are in a queue and leave a couple of metres of space someone will force their car into the gap. My hire car had loads of scrapes and scratches there's no checking the condition of the car when you collect or return it.

Sicily is the fastest driving I've witnessed, you don't use your mirror in Sicily you just go for it, the unwritten rule is that you just have to avoid what's in front of you. I drove there three weeks and found myself driving like a lunatic on tmy first day back to work!

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Paris CL Riots on 20:20 - Jun 2 with 1503 viewshowenjack

Paris CL Riots on 18:10 - Jun 2 by trampie

Worst places I've driven is Paris the Périphérique which I've had the misfortune of having done scores of times over the years, Southern France and Italy, it must be the Latin blood.


Not driven in Italy but Naples to me looked a bit random as far as the highway code was concerned 😳 Lima in Peru is another place where you don't see many cars without dents in them .
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Paris CL Riots on 20:21 - Jun 2 with 1492 viewsonehunglow

Paris CL Riots on 19:39 - Jun 2 by JACKMANANDBOY

Amman, driving into the centre on a two lane ' motorway ' the traffic backed up. Soon they were driving over the central reservation and using the other carriageway in the wrong direction. When that backed up they took to driving through a large tented market on the other side of the road.

Every car in Amman has a dent, if you are in a queue and leave a couple of metres of space someone will force their car into the gap. My hire car had loads of scrapes and scratches there's no checking the condition of the car when you collect or return it.

Sicily is the fastest driving I've witnessed, you don't use your mirror in Sicily you just go for it, the unwritten rule is that you just have to avoid what's in front of you. I drove there three weeks and found myself driving like a lunatic on tmy first day back to work!


Interesting posts chaps
I got lost in Montreal after heading to the Sherbrooke area for the fall
Ok I’m an advanced driver and lucid but Montreal has bridges
We were staying in the centre and could see our Hotel from the bridge
However the one way system is notorious and having taken the wrong exit became ensconced on a non very salubrious part of the city
Things were that had , it was getting dark and being a reasonable French speaker was volunteered to find a bar and ask for help
Québécois aren’t exactly friendly to English speakers but got by because my accent wasn’t American
Some lovely guy offered to get onto our hire car and show me
It was five mins away
We had been lost for two hours solid

Quebec Je me souviens , ya buggers

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Paris CL Riots on 17:40 - Jun 4 with 1357 views1983

We drove from one side of Costa Rica to the other well over halfway in the dark.
Everything on the road wanted to kill themselves massive lizards,dogs,deer,children you name it they literally walk up the middle of the road and just step out straight in front you in total darkness , it was like some bizzare episode of top gear

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Paris CL Riots on 08:08 - Jun 6 with 1250 viewssons_of_omri

Paris CL Riots on 13:42 - Jun 2 by AnotherJohn

Agree that France (as well as Italy) can be pretty challenging, although it is some years since I went on the Boulevard Périphérique and I'm sure it must be worse now. However, my nomination for worst city driving is Vietnam, where the motor bike swarms in big cities are something to behold, even compared with other Asian countries. Last time I was in Da Nang my taxi from the airport to the hotel side-swiped and knocked over one rider and carried on without stopping or any apparent concern. Any other nominations for worst driving environment?


I was in Ho Chi Minh City when me and my mates saw someone killed being knocked of her Nick. Police just put the body by the side of the road to clear the lane .
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