| Makerfield election 09:29 - Jun 19 with 5253 views | onehunglow |
Not much traction or comment on this topic
This could be a significant result that will have massive impact on the whole country
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| Makerfield election on 09:42 - Jun 19 with 3088 views | johnlangy |
Brilliant result in so many ways. Reform beaten for a start and by such a large margin, which considering their wins in the local elections just a month ago, is remarkable.
It would be different if Burnham had scraped a win but his winning with such a margin will definitely make ALL Labour MP's sit up and think what he may be able to do across the whole of the UK. | | | |
| Makerfield election on 09:54 - Jun 19 with 3079 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
I've no idea what Burnham is offering, apart from not being Starmer? |  |
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| Makerfield election on 10:07 - Jun 19 with 3064 views | onehunglow |
| Makerfield election on 09:42 - Jun 19 by johnlangy |
Brilliant result in so many ways. Reform beaten for a start and by such a large margin, which considering their wins in the local elections just a month ago, is remarkable.
It would be different if Burnham had scraped a win but his winning with such a margin will definitely make ALL Labour MP's sit up and think what he may be able to do across the whole of the UK. |
Morning John
Burnham won as it’s a vote against Starmer
The reform candidate an ingenue
Reform and Redtore have split the “ right”
Burnham is one to watch
Thank for the discussion anyway | |
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| Makerfield election on 10:08 - Jun 19 with 3064 views | Boundy |
| Makerfield election on 09:42 - Jun 19 by johnlangy |
Brilliant result in so many ways. Reform beaten for a start and by such a large margin, which considering their wins in the local elections just a month ago, is remarkable.
It would be different if Burnham had scraped a win but his winning with such a margin will definitely make ALL Labour MP's sit up and think what he may be able to do across the whole of the UK. |
Brilliant , FFS someones easily pleased . another deluded lefty who thinks alls well with the UK .I'm sure the muslim pakistani block vote would have had a big bearing on voting patterns but who cares as long as the left are happy . | |
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| Makerfield election on 10:08 - Jun 19 with 3059 views | Whiterockin |
A by-election called solely to get Burnham elected to get rid of Starmer and it was achieved, this result will have no bearing on a GE. Labour now have a decision to make, change leader and change policies or just change leader. Any leadership challenge will mean prospective leaders will need to set out their plans for their party if elected. If these proposals differ dramatically from current policies and the last Labour GE manifesto there will need to be a GE called. Interesting times ahead. [Post edited 19 Jun 10:10]
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| Makerfield election on 10:24 - Jun 19 with 3021 views | johnlangy |
| Makerfield election on 10:08 - Jun 19 by Boundy |
Brilliant , FFS someones easily pleased . another deluded lefty who thinks alls well with the UK .I'm sure the muslim pakistani block vote would have had a big bearing on voting patterns but who cares as long as the left are happy . |
Thank you Boundy for another insulting for no good reason post that most who use this thread are I believe bored with. If you have an opinion why not express it rather than have a go at people whose opinion differs from yours.
And the muslim/pakistani block vote, if indeed there is such a thing, had almost zero bearing on the Makerfield result as the constituency is 96% white. | | | |
| Makerfield election on 10:54 - Jun 19 with 2964 views | union_jack |
| Makerfield election on 10:08 - Jun 19 by Whiterockin |
A by-election called solely to get Burnham elected to get rid of Starmer and it was achieved, this result will have no bearing on a GE. Labour now have a decision to make, change leader and change policies or just change leader. Any leadership challenge will mean prospective leaders will need to set out their plans for their party if elected. If these proposals differ dramatically from current policies and the last Labour GE manifesto there will need to be a GE called. Interesting times ahead. [Post edited 19 Jun 10:10]
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This is my take on it. Burnham’s victory has been about changing ‘the now’ including most importantly getting Starmer out. Whether or not the next GE will be a different result will depend on how well he does as PM. He may not be any more popular than he is now and call an early GE? |  |
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| Makerfield election on 10:55 - Jun 19 with 2964 views | Demitrius |
This was all about wanting Starmer out rather than Burnham in
The public cannot stand him as he has all the charisma of a pint of lukewarm pish and makes John Major look like Marlon Brando in comparison.
His incompetent clueless cabinet are even worse
If Restore had withdrawn Reform would still have lost.
This, like the Aberdeen result had mitigating circumstances and should not be seen as a trend |  |
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| Makerfield election on 11:11 - Jun 19 with 2902 views | Scotia |
The Reform candidate was incredibly weak. He was made to look like a bit of a fool throughout the campaign, but apparently was the best they've got in that constituency.
Inadequate candidates is a theme with Reform and probably Restore. Their representatives need to be challenged and scrutinized long before election day. Sarah Pochin's recent domestic violence comments are shocking too, to the point of resignation. But they've barely been noticed.
We've also seen a Reform candidate who was a buffoon in the Morriston council by -election and Refrom losing their only Swansea Council seat in Mumbles.
Now let's get Farage in the dock over his £5million gift from the fossil fuel / Crypto billionaire he received just before announcing Crypto and fossil fuel friendly policies. | | | |
| Makerfield election on 11:35 - Jun 19 with 2892 views | Gwyn737 |
| Makerfield election on 10:24 - Jun 19 by johnlangy |
Thank you Boundy for another insulting for no good reason post that most who use this thread are I believe bored with. If you have an opinion why not express it rather than have a go at people whose opinion differs from yours.
And the muslim/pakistani block vote, if indeed there is such a thing, had almost zero bearing on the Makerfield result as the constituency is 96% white. |
...and we don't know how the 4% voted (or if they did) | | | |
| Makerfield election on 11:39 - Jun 19 with 2876 views | Gwyn737 |
| Makerfield election on 11:11 - Jun 19 by Scotia |
The Reform candidate was incredibly weak. He was made to look like a bit of a fool throughout the campaign, but apparently was the best they've got in that constituency.
Inadequate candidates is a theme with Reform and probably Restore. Their representatives need to be challenged and scrutinized long before election day. Sarah Pochin's recent domestic violence comments are shocking too, to the point of resignation. But they've barely been noticed.
We've also seen a Reform candidate who was a buffoon in the Morriston council by -election and Refrom losing their only Swansea Council seat in Mumbles.
Now let's get Farage in the dock over his £5million gift from the fossil fuel / Crypto billionaire he received just before announcing Crypto and fossil fuel friendly policies. |
It's really hard to tell what this means but I agree, Reform's choice of candidate (again) has been so poor it's bound to have had an effect.
Mind you, it's not all doom and gloom for Reform as I expect they'll have a real go at the now vacant Manchester Mayor position. | | | |
| Makerfield election on 11:51 - Jun 19 with 2861 views | AnotherJohn |
Despite what Burnham told the local voters to win the by-election, I expect this to result in a shift to the left,, including some watering down of Mahmood's immigration policies and a likely rise in borrowing. That will be a big gamble with Labour very much in the last chance saloon. | | | |
| Makerfield election on 11:58 - Jun 19 with 2845 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Makerfield election on 10:08 - Jun 19 by Whiterockin |
A by-election called solely to get Burnham elected to get rid of Starmer and it was achieved, this result will have no bearing on a GE. Labour now have a decision to make, change leader and change policies or just change leader. Any leadership challenge will mean prospective leaders will need to set out their plans for their party if elected. If these proposals differ dramatically from current policies and the last Labour GE manifesto there will need to be a GE called. Interesting times ahead. [Post edited 19 Jun 10:10]
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The GE threat is probably the only card Starmer has left to play in order to cling to power. Launch a coup against me and I’ll call an election immediately. Labour have zero chance of winning and they know it and it’s probably Burnham’s last chance for the top job.
There’ll be plenty of “negotiations” over the next few days/weeks. Strap in this is about to get messy. |  |
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| Makerfield election on 12:02 - Jun 19 with 2838 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Makerfield election on 10:55 - Jun 19 by Demitrius |
This was all about wanting Starmer out rather than Burnham in
The public cannot stand him as he has all the charisma of a pint of lukewarm pish and makes John Major look like Marlon Brando in comparison.
His incompetent clueless cabinet are even worse
If Restore had withdrawn Reform would still have lost.
This, like the Aberdeen result had mitigating circumstances and should not be seen as a trend |
Also worth pointing out that this constituency is probably in the top five ‘safest’ Labour seats in the country. If Burnham (or any other Labour candidate) lost here it would be a monumental shock. | |
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| Makerfield election on 12:13 - Jun 19 with 2817 views | johnlangy |
| Makerfield election on 12:02 - Jun 19 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Also worth pointing out that this constituency is probably in the top five ‘safest’ Labour seats in the country. If Burnham (or any other Labour candidate) lost here it would be a monumental shock. |
I don't know about safest JON. The majority in 2024 was 5,399. Not that big.
When you think about how Labour have lost so much popularity over the last two years and how Reform have gained popularity, for Burnham to increase that majority from 5,399 to 9,000 plus is remarkable actually. | | | |
| Makerfield election on 12:23 - Jun 19 with 2798 views | Whiterockin |
| Makerfield election on 12:13 - Jun 19 by johnlangy |
I don't know about safest JON. The majority in 2024 was 5,399. Not that big.
When you think about how Labour have lost so much popularity over the last two years and how Reform have gained popularity, for Burnham to increase that majority from 5,399 to 9,000 plus is remarkable actually. |
Remarkable under normal circumstances yes but this by-election was not normal circumstances and unlikely to be repeated. | | | |
| Makerfield election on 13:28 - Jun 19 with 2716 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Makerfield election on 12:23 - Jun 19 by Whiterockin |
Remarkable under normal circumstances yes but this by-election was not normal circumstances and unlikely to be repeated. |
I wonder how much of it was a vote against Starmer rather than a vote for Burnham? | |
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| Makerfield election on 13:28 - Jun 19 with 2716 views | raynor94 |
| Makerfield election on 09:42 - Jun 19 by johnlangy |
Brilliant result in so many ways. Reform beaten for a start and by such a large margin, which considering their wins in the local elections just a month ago, is remarkable.
It would be different if Burnham had scraped a win but his winning with such a margin will definitely make ALL Labour MP's sit up and think what he may be able to do across the whole of the UK. |
Brilliant result? For who this is a return to left wing policies that banished Labour from power for years, no way will Labour win a general election under Burnham in my opinion.
I can see Corbyn being welcomed back in the fold, Mcdonnell was in happy tears this morning |  |
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| Makerfield election on 13:30 - Jun 19 with 2711 views | Wingstandwood |
| Makerfield election on 09:42 - Jun 19 by johnlangy |
Brilliant result in so many ways. Reform beaten for a start and by such a large margin, which considering their wins in the local elections just a month ago, is remarkable.
It would be different if Burnham had scraped a win but his winning with such a margin will definitely make ALL Labour MP's sit up and think what he may be able to do across the whole of the UK. |
Brilliant result for crackpots and idiots who don't know how the real world works, brilliant result for those that live in their fantasy world of magic-money-tree economics, brilliant result for those that have never grown up, whom forever think like your stereotypical college campus lefty loon.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/money |  |
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| Makerfield election on 13:34 - Jun 19 with 2702 views | onehunglow |
Keir will have to watch his back
I remember Burnham at Anfield giving a speech and being booed about Hillsborough
He soon changed tack
He will kill Keir | |
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| Makerfield election on 13:56 - Jun 19 with 2667 views | Scotia |
| Makerfield election on 13:30 - Jun 19 by Wingstandwood |
Brilliant result for crackpots and idiots who don't know how the real world works, brilliant result for those that live in their fantasy world of magic-money-tree economics, brilliant result for those that have never grown up, whom forever think like your stereotypical college campus lefty loon.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/money |
"crackpots and idiots who don't know how the real world works, brilliant result for those that live in their fantasy world of magic-money-tree economics, brilliant result for those that have never grown up"
They lost mind? | | | |
| Makerfield election on 14:07 - Jun 19 with 2674 views | onehunglow |
| Makerfield election on 13:56 - Jun 19 by Scotia |
"crackpots and idiots who don't know how the real world works, brilliant result for those that live in their fantasy world of magic-money-tree economics, brilliant result for those that have never grown up"
They lost mind? |
Why not quote what Greens or Plaid advocate because therein lies true bonkerism
Burnham will borrow BIG and at some time it’ll want repaying | |
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| Makerfield election on 14:26 - Jun 19 with 2643 views | raynor94 |
| Makerfield election on 13:56 - Jun 19 by Scotia |
"crackpots and idiots who don't know how the real world works, brilliant result for those that live in their fantasy world of magic-money-tree economics, brilliant result for those that have never grown up"
They lost mind? |
Ah another happy left wing supporter | |
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| Makerfield election on 14:32 - Jun 19 with 2627 views | onehunglow |
| Makerfield election on 14:26 - Jun 19 by raynor94 |
Ah another happy left wing supporter |
Surely we have room on this site for all political views
Nobody should feel pigeon holed or intimidated
People should feel free
Personally,I like what reform say but detest Farage
However I dont like the way Nige admires Trump and Om
Anti monarchy
Ergo left and right
It’s ok | |
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| Makerfield election on 14:34 - Jun 19 with 2616 views | Scotia |
| Makerfield election on 14:26 - Jun 19 by raynor94 |
Ah another happy left wing supporter |
I'm not left wing, but I am happy Reform lost. | | | |
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