| Know them by their friends 08:15 - Sep 14 with 4937 views | AnotherJohn |
Plaid will meet leaders of Sinn Fein and the SNP in Cardiff. The old saying, “Be careful what you wish for” is true enough, but too many Welsh people need to be careful what they vote for when it brings something they did not wish for.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news
It will be interesting to hear what emerges from the conference of the woke.
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| Know them by their friends on 08:35 - Sep 14 with 2854 views | onehunglow |
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| Know them by their friends on 09:09 - Sep 14 with 2799 views | jack247 |
Welsh people as a population are quite evidently not careful what we wish for. Politically anyway. | | | |
| Know them by their friends on 10:00 - Sep 14 with 2756 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
A Cooperation of Celtic peoples.Nothing sinister. The troubles ended 30 years after negotiations and another great British fudge to keep everyone happy. |  |
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| Know them by their friends on 10:07 - Sep 14 with 2746 views | Whiterockin |
| Know them by their friends on 10:00 - Sep 14 by ReslovenSwan1 |
A Cooperation of Celtic peoples.Nothing sinister. The troubles ended 30 years after negotiations and another great British fudge to keep everyone happy. |
It seems to be a meeting with discussions on independence and the best way forward, according to the news reporting. |  | | |
| Know them by their friends on 10:08 - Sep 14 with 2745 views | Boundy |
| Know them by their friends on 10:00 - Sep 14 by ReslovenSwan1 |
A Cooperation of Celtic peoples.Nothing sinister. The troubles ended 30 years after negotiations and another great British fudge to keep everyone happy. |
You're extremely niave if you think the problems of a united Ireland is over . The only thing atm which is uniting the folk of the north is the threat of illegal immigration . | |
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| Know them by their friends on 10:31 - Sep 14 with 2704 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Know them by their friends on 10:08 - Sep 14 by Boundy |
You're extremely niave if you think the problems of a united Ireland is over . The only thing atm which is uniting the folk of the north is the threat of illegal immigration . |
Same as northern England but they are more experienced at civil disorder. Illegal immigration was caused by Isreali USA foreign policy which is declining as Iran is too big to trash.. Isreal want to launch and mobilise 1.5m Palestinians for the Ulster people to object to. Better to inject to Benjamin Netinyahu s policies.
Welsh and Scottish independence runs into problems of acquired English Debt . About £50 billion for Wales. £80billion for Scotland. Over generous benefits the London banking fraud of 2009 and COVID costs in the main. [Post edited 14 Sep 10:33]
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| Know them by their friends on 10:39 - Sep 14 with 2696 views | AnotherJohn |
| Know them by their friends on 10:31 - Sep 14 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Same as northern England but they are more experienced at civil disorder. Illegal immigration was caused by Isreali USA foreign policy which is declining as Iran is too big to trash.. Isreal want to launch and mobilise 1.5m Palestinians for the Ulster people to object to. Better to inject to Benjamin Netinyahu s policies.
Welsh and Scottish independence runs into problems of acquired English Debt . About £50 billion for Wales. £80billion for Scotland. Over generous benefits the London banking fraud of 2009 and COVID costs in the main. [Post edited 14 Sep 10:33]
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Did I imagine Drakeford asking for even more to be spent to mitigate the effects of COVID-19? Hard to link all the illegal migration flows to Israel. | | | |
| Know them by their friends on 10:50 - Sep 14 with 2672 views | onehunglow |
| Know them by their friends on 10:00 - Sep 14 by ReslovenSwan1 |
A Cooperation of Celtic peoples.Nothing sinister. The troubles ended 30 years after negotiations and another great British fudge to keep everyone happy. |
Celtic peoples
No difference in genetics whatsoever
It is a hate filled mindset and you promote that
We need to unite
We need to keep Eire where it is and not be tainted by their hatred of England
Btw , you didn’t turn up for a chat | |
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| Know them by their friends on 11:04 - Sep 14 with 2641 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Know them by their friends on 10:50 - Sep 14 by onehunglow |
Celtic peoples
No difference in genetics whatsoever
It is a hate filled mindset and you promote that
We need to unite
We need to keep Eire where it is and not be tainted by their hatred of England
Btw , you didn’t turn up for a chat |
Celtic people exist and I am one. Strong and unashamed. No poodle to the English monarch with their disfunctional family..
"Happy and glorious born to rule over us". I do not hate them but the system is fraudulent and perhaps worse.
No hate I have English family. They are kind and sweet.. It is impossible. Genetics are different. Many English are part Celtic but reject their Celticness out of hand due to the loyalty to the English monarchy and global culture. 1000 years of conditioning... [Post edited 14 Sep 11:09]
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| Know them by their friends on 12:28 - Sep 14 with 2571 views | max936 |
When is plaid actually gonna do something for Wales,? all they do is talk, especially the talking horse Ron Jones. |  | | |
| Know them by their friends on 12:36 - Sep 14 with 2563 views | max936 |
| Know them by their friends on 12:28 - Sep 14 by max936 |
When is plaid actually gonna do something for Wales,? all they do is talk, especially the talking horse Ron Jones. |
I've found this after a brief search, its a start, I suppose, but there's much much more that needs they more immediate attention.
https://www.google.com/search? | | | |
| Know them by their friends on 12:40 - Sep 14 with 2554 views | onehunglow |
| Know them by their friends on 11:04 - Sep 14 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Celtic people exist and I am one. Strong and unashamed. No poodle to the English monarch with their disfunctional family..
"Happy and glorious born to rule over us". I do not hate them but the system is fraudulent and perhaps worse.
No hate I have English family. They are kind and sweet.. It is impossible. Genetics are different. Many English are part Celtic but reject their Celticness out of hand due to the loyalty to the English monarchy and global culture. 1000 years of conditioning... [Post edited 14 Sep 11:09]
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No
You are British
As are Welsh and Scots
You are of the same race
You have the same dna as my English family
You are no different to a Geordie
Get out of that valley | |
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| Know them by their friends on 13:01 - Sep 14 with 2532 views | majorraglan |
I’ve no issue with the 3 leaders meeting and discussing options to work together to improve things or identify common problems that need addressing in Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales, but they can shout or proclaim as much as they want but there’s no prospect of independence in any of the 3 countries at the moment. | | | |
| Know them by their friends on 15:23 - Sep 14 with 2423 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Know them by their friends on 12:40 - Sep 14 by onehunglow |
No
You are British
As are Welsh and Scots
You are of the same race
You have the same dna as my English family
You are no different to a Geordie
Get out of that valley |
Well there are distinct genetic differences but calling yourself ANY nationality these days is a minefield. We are now ALL bastard races, all mixed, we all have DNA from thousands of years of immigration and invasions. The Roman legions bought Gallic blood with them, the Vikings, the Normans, it's all mixed in. We have far more in common thatn most nationalists like to admit.
Then don't forget the Welsh are more Briton than the Anglo-Saxons!
Anyway, looking for independence amongst themselves is fine but they still have to put it to a vote and right now that ;looks a doomed idea, for th time being anyway. I have to admit to being more indy curious than I was even 5 years ago though.
Surely though, Plaid have a lot of work to do in Wales that should take precedence over a Celtic love in? | | | |
| Know them by their friends on 16:22 - Sep 14 with 2392 views | onehunglow |
| Know them by their friends on 15:23 - Sep 14 by SullutaCreturned |
Well there are distinct genetic differences but calling yourself ANY nationality these days is a minefield. We are now ALL bastard races, all mixed, we all have DNA from thousands of years of immigration and invasions. The Roman legions bought Gallic blood with them, the Vikings, the Normans, it's all mixed in. We have far more in common thatn most nationalists like to admit.
Then don't forget the Welsh are more Briton than the Anglo-Saxons!
Anyway, looking for independence amongst themselves is fine but they still have to put it to a vote and right now that ;looks a doomed idea, for th time being anyway. I have to admit to being more indy curious than I was even 5 years ago though.
Surely though, Plaid have a lot of work to do in Wales that should take precedence over a Celtic love in? |
My Welsh born nieces nephews are genetically identical to my English ones
Inference her is my marriage to an English woman is essentially a mixed marriage
I’ve not ever read such shite as resolved has posted
It’s simply race preference
There is no genetic difference between a Geordie , a Cumbrian and a Jack
None
Sooner we accept this and end this interminable division the better
If we were talking colour we would be looking at possible legal implications
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| Know them by their friends on 17:00 - Sep 14 with 2356 views | Whiterockin |
They certainly know how to keep Westminster onside for funding. | | | |
| Know them by their friends on 17:24 - Sep 14 with 2338 views | union_jack |
Swinney going on about the majority of Scots would vote because of the pro independence MSPs is disingenuous to say the least. Not every SNP wants independence but it’s fair to say most if not all who voted for the other parties definitely don’t want it.
He’s also made the point in response to Burnham’s poor response in HoC in my opinion where he said he wouldn’t consider another referendum unless there is evidence that there is a majority wanting it. So Swinney forces the issue. Burnham coukd have and indeed should have shut the whole thing down dead but he didn’t. [Post edited 14 Sep 20:09]
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| Know them by their friends on 17:32 - Sep 14 with 2326 views | onehunglow |
| Know them by their friends on 17:24 - Sep 14 by union_jack |
Swinney going on about the majority of Scots would vote because of the pro independence MSPs is disingenuous to say the least. Not every SNP wants independence but it’s fair to say most if not all who voted for the other parties definitely don’t want it.
He’s also made the point in response to Burnham’s poor response in HoC in my opinion where he said he wouldn’t consider another referendum unless there is evidence that there is a majority wanting it. So Swinney forces the issue. Burnham coukd have and indeed should have shut the whole thing down dead but he didn’t. [Post edited 14 Sep 20:09]
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Scotland might survive but only if oil drilling restarted
That says Glasgow has massive issues and costly ones
Wales ? Let’s not even go there | |
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| Know them by their friends on 17:39 - Sep 14 with 2322 views | union_jack |
| Know them by their friends on 17:32 - Sep 14 by onehunglow |
Scotland might survive but only if oil drilling restarted
That says Glasgow has massive issues and costly ones
Wales ? Let’s not even go there |
But the ones who will vote for independence won’t think or won’t care about how bad it will be because they just want it to happen no matter the cost. | |
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| Know them by their friends on 17:44 - Sep 14 with 2315 views | KeithHaynes |
| Know them by their friends on 10:00 - Sep 14 by ReslovenSwan1 |
A Cooperation of Celtic peoples.Nothing sinister. The troubles ended 30 years after negotiations and another great British fudge to keep everyone happy. |
If you genuinely think the troubles are over you haven’t been keeping up mate. |  |
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| Know them by their friends on 17:52 - Sep 14 with 2301 views | onehunglow |
| Know them by their friends on 17:39 - Sep 14 by union_jack |
But the ones who will vote for independence won’t think or won’t care about how bad it will be because they just want it to happen no matter the cost. |
The ones who want to break away feel that way fir one reason and one reason alone
Independence in Wales. Would see a referendum within five years fir a north Wales breakaway
Cardiff and Caernarfon ,a world apart
One country Wales is not | |
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| Know them by their friends on 17:57 - Sep 14 with 2297 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Know them by their friends on 17:44 - Sep 14 by KeithHaynes |
If you genuinely think the troubles are over you haven’t been keeping up mate. |
That's been discussed on here before and was it your brother, Keith, who has more knowledge of this than most on here?
It was somebody's brother I'm sure!
Anyway I've looked in the past and things aren't as cut and dried as Westminster would like. The hate runs deep.
For my money give them the vote and see what they want. Westminster would never sanction it which I always thought odd, same as for us and the jocks, if we are such a drain why so desperate to keep hold of us? | | | |
| Know them by their friends on 18:01 - Sep 14 with 2290 views | onehunglow |
| Know them by their friends on 17:57 - Sep 14 by SullutaCreturned |
That's been discussed on here before and was it your brother, Keith, who has more knowledge of this than most on here?
It was somebody's brother I'm sure!
Anyway I've looked in the past and things aren't as cut and dried as Westminster would like. The hate runs deep.
For my money give them the vote and see what they want. Westminster would never sanction it which I always thought odd, same as for us and the jocks, if we are such a drain why so desperate to keep hold of us? |
I see them still divided by religion
It’s fundamental and seen fein can say what they like
It’s Brits out , all of them.
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| Know them by their friends on 18:02 - Sep 14 with 2286 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Know them by their friends on 16:22 - Sep 14 by onehunglow |
My Welsh born nieces nephews are genetically identical to my English ones
Inference her is my marriage to an English woman is essentially a mixed marriage
I’ve not ever read such shite as resolved has posted
It’s simply race preference
There is no genetic difference between a Geordie , a Cumbrian and a Jack
None
Sooner we accept this and end this interminable division the better
If we were talking colour we would be looking at possible legal implications
I’m
Simply
Seething |
There are genetic differences, google it, or here,
Key Genetic DivisionsNo single "Celtic" group: Populations in Wales, Scotland, Cornwall, and Northern Ireland are genetically distinct from one another rather than forming one uniform non-English group. [1] ( https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015 Welsh are the most distinct: People in Wales carry DNA closest to the earliest post-ice-age settlers of the British Isles and lack major Anglo-Saxon or continental shifts seen elsewhere. Even North and South Wales show clear internal genetic differences. [1] ( https://peopleofthebritishisle [2] ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ [3] ( https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wa [4] ( https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015 homogeneity: Central, southern, and eastern England form a large, relatively uniform genetic cluster showing 10% to 40% Anglo-Saxon ancestry mixed with native populations. [1] ( https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015 and Devon: Cornwall behaves as a separate genetic group divided cleanly along county lines from Devon. [1] ( https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015 and Shetland: The Northern Isles are the most genetically isolated and distinct in the UK, with Orkney showing roughly 25% Norwegian Viking ancestry. [1] ( https://viking.ed.ac.uk/resear [2] ( https://wellcome.org/press-rel [3] ( https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015 | | | |
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