| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 19:20 - Oct 3 with 737 views | shingle |
Then stop all these unvetted illegals coming here simple really isn't it, problem is the damage already caused is going to be hard to rectify due to the amount of terroists that have already been allowed to enter, that coupled with the vast amount of these left wing loonies who keep trying to justify what is going and this extremely dangerous Labour Government who are going to take us to the depths of despair, i think we are already fcuked. |  | |  |
| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 19:38 - Oct 3 with 701 views | onehunglow |
| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 19:20 - Oct 3 by shingle |
Then stop all these unvetted illegals coming here simple really isn't it, problem is the damage already caused is going to be hard to rectify due to the amount of terroists that have already been allowed to enter, that coupled with the vast amount of these left wing loonies who keep trying to justify what is going and this extremely dangerous Labour Government who are going to take us to the depths of despair, i think we are already fcuked. |
Have a feckn uparrow
They ARE the problem | |
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| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 20:15 - Oct 3 with 678 views | JJBomber |
| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 18:15 - Oct 3 by Gwyn737 |
Firstly they weren’t on the list. (Hence my pointing out that none of the cases mentioned were on the list).
Secondly, three of the four were British born with the fourth born in Jamaica as a child and was a British citizen.
Thirdly, I didn’t mention any political parties.
I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. [Post edited 3 Oct 18:17]
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''Every one of the listed cases were before Labour came back to power.''
Yes you did! | | | |
| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 20:45 - Oct 3 with 659 views | Wingstandwood |
| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 19:20 - Oct 3 by shingle |
Then stop all these unvetted illegals coming here simple really isn't it, problem is the damage already caused is going to be hard to rectify due to the amount of terroists that have already been allowed to enter, that coupled with the vast amount of these left wing loonies who keep trying to justify what is going and this extremely dangerous Labour Government who are going to take us to the depths of despair, i think we are already fcuked. |
Stark raving lunacy ain't it? Done during the very time when ISIS exists along with many other Islamic terrorist groups.
The security services have an impossible task, a ball and chain on both legs now, because of the additional numbers of 'unknowns' that have already entered the country. |  |
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| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 21:02 - Oct 3 with 643 views | Wingstandwood |
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.u
QUOTE: "Man living in Liverpool appears in court charged over alleged synagogue terror plot Salam Ahmadyan, 36, from Liverpool and Rahman Salehi, 34, of Salford, are accused of preparing to commit an act of terrorism or assisting another to commit an act of terrorism on or before 20 September." END OF QUOTE
Nigel Farage ain't happy! https://www.gbnews.com/politic
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| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 21:45 - Oct 3 with 612 views | Gwyn737 |
| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 20:15 - Oct 3 by JJBomber |
''Every one of the listed cases were before Labour came back to power.''
Yes you did! |
I didn’t phrase it very well.
It wasn’t meant to be a political thing - it’s a failure of all governments. | | | |
| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 21:47 - Oct 3 with 616 views | Dr_Winston |
| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 15:11 - Oct 3 by Gwyn737 |
That 15% figure is important.
The others I’m not as bothered about. We can continue to legislate the criminalisation of burning the Koran and banning images of Mohammed.
Sharia Law doesn’t trump UK law and that needs to stay. (I think it’s worth noting that both Jewish and evangelical Christians have the same type of community courts)
So the question remains, what do we do about the 600k if we don’t want to impinge on the freedoms of the other 3.4 million?
I’m sure with the public facing job you have (like me) have had interactions with Muslims who are diamonds and bring a lot to the country. [Post edited 3 Oct 18:17]
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Even the "diamonds" will hold views that are simply unacceptable in a secular society.
I'm sorry, but if they're not on board with that then they need to be elsewhere. Demographics are only going one way, and things need to be sorted before we get to the point where they can't be. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 22:49 - Oct 3 with 597 views | Wingstandwood |
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/
Going well ain't it, but do not worry about it folks, because if you are concerned you're far right who does not like 'brown people' according to some! | |
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| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 01:45 - Oct 4 with 566 views | Robbie |
Some reporting suggests the Mosques are trying their best to keep to keep a happy enviroment in the communities , and as not a Swansea Centre resident myself the ones I view infrequently on rare visits seem to be not a problem .
On line chatter and staying in a dark room links seem to be the new weapon of attack now .
Cyber security will be the next target , we are doomed I tell ya , doomed . | | | |
| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 05:34 - Oct 4 with 527 views | Gwyn737 |
| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 21:47 - Oct 3 by Dr_Winston |
Even the "diamonds" will hold views that are simply unacceptable in a secular society.
I'm sorry, but if they're not on board with that then they need to be elsewhere. Demographics are only going one way, and things need to be sorted before we get to the point where they can't be. |
It’s still the ‘how’ though, isn’t it?
As you say, it can only really be pushed by a secular society. The US are so different to us in this respect with using Conservative Christianity to push things through - we don’t have that over there (thankfully). | | | |
| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 07:52 - Oct 4 with 502 views | union_jack |
| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 22:49 - Oct 3 by Wingstandwood |
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/
Going well ain't it, but do not worry about it folks, because if you are concerned you're far right who does not like 'brown people' according to some! |
My concern is that the 10 occupants didn’t have their journey interrupted too much and are safely on their way to the UK with help from our government. It wouldn’t be fair otherwise😏 |  |
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| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 13:17 - Oct 4 with 408 views | AnotherJohn |
| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 21:47 - Oct 3 by Dr_Winston |
Even the "diamonds" will hold views that are simply unacceptable in a secular society.
I'm sorry, but if they're not on board with that then they need to be elsewhere. Demographics are only going one way, and things need to be sorted before we get to the point where they can't be. |
Re Dr W’s remark that "demographics are only going one way," I find it interesting to reflect on how that was allowed to happen. Around 1980 there was a fairly widespread expectation among establishment politicians, officials and demographers that the population resulting from post-war immigration would settle at a stable long-term level, rather than continuing to grow indefinitely. In 1979 the OPCS had predicted that the “New Commonwealth and Pakistani” ethnic-origin population would settle at 3.3 million. Those like Enoch Powell who argued that an ethnically-distinct population would persist and grow, because of in-group reproduction as well as further immigration, were heavily criticized both by Labour politicians of the day and quite a few in the Tory Party.
Here are extracts from an immigration debate in March 1980.
Enoch Powell (UUP): I was saying that we know, because it is the result of facts which already exist, the minimum proportion in future which that population will represent to the whole over the areas of this country which are concerned. We know that in central London it will be one-third or more; and we know that there will be a similar ratio in many of the other great cities of England.(…) It is absurd to contend that one can bring an end to immigration when this is to be the pattern of our future population. By the very natural order of things such a population, taking it as a whole—the parts vary to some extent—is bound to involve—I almost said "to require" —continuing immigration. Therefore, the attempt to deal with the anxieties of great numbers in our cities, the attempt to deal with the fears or feelings or whatever it was to which the Prime Minister was referring, by adjustment of the detailed requirements for immigration, is not merely futile; it is either deception or it is, more charitably, self-deception.(…)
Alexander Lyon (L)
Is not the fallacy of the argument of the right hon. Member for Down, South (Mr. Powell) that when this population stabilises at 3.3 million there will not be any substantial danger such as he argued in the past. These people, though their ethnic origin may be Asian or West Indian, will be British in their outlook and the composition of this society will be different; it will be settled and harmonious.
(…)
Eric Heffer (L)
I have been listening very carefully to the right hon. Gentleman. I must explain that I have black relatives and I do not take kindly to the sort of statements that he is making. Apart from that, what is the logic of his argument, where is he leading us? (…) What does he propose? Is he suggesting that we should send all these coloured people back?
(…)
Alexander Lyon
The right hon. Member gives offence every time he opens his mouth on this subject.
https://api.parliament.uk/hist
It is Powell who many still denigrate, but Labour politicians like Lyon and Heffer are the ones who deserve to be remembered for their part in the genesis of the problem we now face. [Post edited 4 Oct 14:02]
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| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 14:26 - Oct 4 with 368 views | max936 |
| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 09:16 - Oct 4 by JJBomber |
They're all in Ukraine. Hereford is empty! |
Saw Billy Billingham in the Barrels pub at Saint Owen's Street once, he had his usual pensive look on his face, think he may have been on a job a chap approached him shock his hand and went into the other room saw when we left sitting with a few other people, he was watching everything. |  | | |
| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 14:51 - Oct 4 with 349 views | onehunglow |
| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 13:17 - Oct 4 by AnotherJohn |
Re Dr W’s remark that "demographics are only going one way," I find it interesting to reflect on how that was allowed to happen. Around 1980 there was a fairly widespread expectation among establishment politicians, officials and demographers that the population resulting from post-war immigration would settle at a stable long-term level, rather than continuing to grow indefinitely. In 1979 the OPCS had predicted that the “New Commonwealth and Pakistani” ethnic-origin population would settle at 3.3 million. Those like Enoch Powell who argued that an ethnically-distinct population would persist and grow, because of in-group reproduction as well as further immigration, were heavily criticized both by Labour politicians of the day and quite a few in the Tory Party.
Here are extracts from an immigration debate in March 1980.
Enoch Powell (UUP): I was saying that we know, because it is the result of facts which already exist, the minimum proportion in future which that population will represent to the whole over the areas of this country which are concerned. We know that in central London it will be one-third or more; and we know that there will be a similar ratio in many of the other great cities of England.(…) It is absurd to contend that one can bring an end to immigration when this is to be the pattern of our future population. By the very natural order of things such a population, taking it as a whole—the parts vary to some extent—is bound to involve—I almost said "to require" —continuing immigration. Therefore, the attempt to deal with the anxieties of great numbers in our cities, the attempt to deal with the fears or feelings or whatever it was to which the Prime Minister was referring, by adjustment of the detailed requirements for immigration, is not merely futile; it is either deception or it is, more charitably, self-deception.(…)
Alexander Lyon (L)
Is not the fallacy of the argument of the right hon. Member for Down, South (Mr. Powell) that when this population stabilises at 3.3 million there will not be any substantial danger such as he argued in the past. These people, though their ethnic origin may be Asian or West Indian, will be British in their outlook and the composition of this society will be different; it will be settled and harmonious.
(…)
Eric Heffer (L)
I have been listening very carefully to the right hon. Gentleman. I must explain that I have black relatives and I do not take kindly to the sort of statements that he is making. Apart from that, what is the logic of his argument, where is he leading us? (…) What does he propose? Is he suggesting that we should send all these coloured people back?
(…)
Alexander Lyon
The right hon. Member gives offence every time he opens his mouth on this subject.
https://api.parliament.uk/hist
It is Powell who many still denigrate, but Labour politicians like Lyon and Heffer are the ones who deserve to be remembered for their part in the genesis of the problem we now face. [Post edited 4 Oct 14:02]
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Heffer was a horrible man | |
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| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 16:21 - Oct 4 with 315 views | JJBomber |
| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 14:26 - Oct 4 by max936 |
Saw Billy Billingham in the Barrels pub at Saint Owen's Street once, he had his usual pensive look on his face, think he may have been on a job a chap approached him shock his hand and went into the other room saw when we left sitting with a few other people, he was watching everything. |
Billy tells a lovely story about an SAS trip to the SBS. One of the SBS asked him if he wanted to go for a run. Billy, as the fitness instructor for the SAS, couldn't back down. After 18 miles, the SBS guy finally stopped. He turned to Billy, then opened the gate and walked down his garden path. He waved goodbye as he went in his front door, leaving Billy to run 18 miles back to base on his own. | | | |
| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 16:26 - Oct 4 with 314 views | howenjack |
Enoch Powell was from welsh mining stock originally . The family moved to the West Midlands . A brilliant academic who spoke 12 languages also if Iam not mistaken the youngest ever brigadier in the British army . | | | |
| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 16:43 - Oct 4 with 302 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 13:17 - Oct 4 by AnotherJohn |
Re Dr W’s remark that "demographics are only going one way," I find it interesting to reflect on how that was allowed to happen. Around 1980 there was a fairly widespread expectation among establishment politicians, officials and demographers that the population resulting from post-war immigration would settle at a stable long-term level, rather than continuing to grow indefinitely. In 1979 the OPCS had predicted that the “New Commonwealth and Pakistani” ethnic-origin population would settle at 3.3 million. Those like Enoch Powell who argued that an ethnically-distinct population would persist and grow, because of in-group reproduction as well as further immigration, were heavily criticized both by Labour politicians of the day and quite a few in the Tory Party.
Here are extracts from an immigration debate in March 1980.
Enoch Powell (UUP): I was saying that we know, because it is the result of facts which already exist, the minimum proportion in future which that population will represent to the whole over the areas of this country which are concerned. We know that in central London it will be one-third or more; and we know that there will be a similar ratio in many of the other great cities of England.(…) It is absurd to contend that one can bring an end to immigration when this is to be the pattern of our future population. By the very natural order of things such a population, taking it as a whole—the parts vary to some extent—is bound to involve—I almost said "to require" —continuing immigration. Therefore, the attempt to deal with the anxieties of great numbers in our cities, the attempt to deal with the fears or feelings or whatever it was to which the Prime Minister was referring, by adjustment of the detailed requirements for immigration, is not merely futile; it is either deception or it is, more charitably, self-deception.(…)
Alexander Lyon (L)
Is not the fallacy of the argument of the right hon. Member for Down, South (Mr. Powell) that when this population stabilises at 3.3 million there will not be any substantial danger such as he argued in the past. These people, though their ethnic origin may be Asian or West Indian, will be British in their outlook and the composition of this society will be different; it will be settled and harmonious.
(…)
Eric Heffer (L)
I have been listening very carefully to the right hon. Gentleman. I must explain that I have black relatives and I do not take kindly to the sort of statements that he is making. Apart from that, what is the logic of his argument, where is he leading us? (…) What does he propose? Is he suggesting that we should send all these coloured people back?
(…)
Alexander Lyon
The right hon. Member gives offence every time he opens his mouth on this subject.
https://api.parliament.uk/hist
It is Powell who many still denigrate, but Labour politicians like Lyon and Heffer are the ones who deserve to be remembered for their part in the genesis of the problem we now face. [Post edited 4 Oct 14:02]
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Lyon and Heffer were at the very least stupid though possibly misinformed. Governments know the way things are going long before we reach situations like today.
We know Blair didn't tell us the truth about immigration when he "opened the flood gates" and today we see Lammybtrying to use the courts to prevent full factual information about immigrant criminal activity coming out. It's not just Labour though, the Tories had 14 years after Blair and did nothing much.
All our governments are complicit in the damage done to this country.
I don't hate anybody because of the colour of their skin but we know many UK Asian families (particularly South Asian communities) still tend to have slightly larger household sizes and a more multi-generational living than the white British population, though family sizes have been shrinking across generations, as have family sizes of all ethnic groups. | | | |
| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 17:37 - Oct 4 with 288 views | max936 |
| Iranian Small Boat Migrants on Terrorism Charges on 16:21 - Oct 4 by JJBomber |
Billy tells a lovely story about an SAS trip to the SBS. One of the SBS asked him if he wanted to go for a run. Billy, as the fitness instructor for the SAS, couldn't back down. After 18 miles, the SBS guy finally stopped. He turned to Billy, then opened the gate and walked down his garden path. He waved goodbye as he went in his front door, leaving Billy to run 18 miles back to base on his own. |
I would have liked to have said hello, but I didn't like to he was standing in the corner of the bottom bar by the entrance to main bar and exit, I don't know if you've ever been there of course, its a great pub who produces the Wye Valley Beers, not been up to Hereford since river has been to low to fish, not had chance for last month, there was a big Teams match on the river today, go up sometime this month, youngest's 30th next on Saturday so won't be then. | | | |
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